Animal cruelty …. Time for legal action.

[echnidna]

Those who inflict unnecessary pain on animals are likely to do the same to people when it amuses them

[silentC]

Blimey, some of you cat lovers are a bit over the top aren't you?

Now, I admit here and now that I dislike cats. I would not have one as a pet and neither would my wife. We're what you call 'dog people'. That does not mean that I would ever actually wish harm to anyone else's moggy. I did have a cat as a kid and it was a pretty cool pet. His name was Tiddles and he could jump 5 feet in the air from a standing start. He went a bit wild in the end and it took about 10 ticks to kill him.

I am not responding to the cruelty bit. I don't think there's any place for that and I agree with you. I'm responding to the 'redneck' 'masculinity' remarks. I will defend to the death my right to make jokes about cats here or anywhere else. I make these jokes because they amuse me, not because I wish to manifest any of them in reality. I am fairly proud of my ability to tell the difference between a joke and real life.

There have been a number of threads that have gone down this path and to most of us, they are a bit of fun. Some people get upset - what you have to realise is that a) they are jokes and b) the more you protest and get upset, the more fun it is.

Now if the administrators want to add cat jokes to the taboo subject list, fine. Until they do, just take them as intended.

BTW I think the second guy in the lunch room conversation sounds more like the one to watch. There is something a bit concerning about someone who responds like that.

[echnidna]

maybe he had a poker face

[Sturdee]

Blimey, some of you cat lovers are a bit over the top aren't you?

Now, I admit here and now that I dislike cats. I would not have one as a pet and neither would my wife. We're what you call 'dog people'. That does not mean that I would ever actually wish harm to anyone else's moggy. I did have a cat as a kid and it was a pretty cool pet. His name was Tiddles and he could jump 5 feet in the air from a standing start. He went a bit wild in the end and it took about 10 ticks to kill him.

I am not responding to the cruelty bit. I don't think there's any place for that and I agree with you. I'm responding to the 'redneck' 'masculinity' remarks. I will defend to the death my right to make jokes about cats here or anywhere else. I make these jokes because they amuse me, not because I wish to manifest any of them in reality. I am fairly proud of my ability to tell the difference between a joke and real life.

There have been a number of threads that have gone down this path and to most of us, they are a bit of fun. Some people get upset - what you have to realise is that a) they are jokes and b) the more you protest and get upset, the more fun it is.

Now if the administrators want to add cat jokes to the taboo subject list, fine. Until they do, just take them as intended.

BTW I think the second guy in the lunch room conversation sounds more like the one to watch. There is something a bit concerning about someone who responds like that.

I fully agree with you on all points except that I would add dogs with the cats as animals that I personally don't like.

Peter.

[silentC]

Right! That's it! I will not stand for anyone saying anything horrible about dogs. How could you not love that furry little face looking up at you all expectantly?



What was that Gary Larson cartoon?

What we say: "Good boy, Ralph, good boy. Fetch the ball, Ralph."
What dogs hear: "Blah blah, Ralph, blah blah. Blah blah blah, Ralph."

See, I made a joke about a dog. And I love dogs!!

[Wood Borer]

People who intentionally inflict pain on any animal have a different view on life to me.

I like all animals however when some of them are in the wrong environment or in plague proportions there is a strong case for humanely killing them.

This should be the last option though and more preferrable options might be:

Not to introduce them to that environment in the first place or don't change the natural environment to one that attracts potential problem species. (cutting down large areas of natural forests, cutting down hollowed gum trees and then introducing fruit trees and then complaining about plague proportions of possums living in your roof!!!)

Place controls on people who care for these animals to minimise the Christmas puppy or kitten problem. (Simply by introducing a sufficient delay between showing interest and delivery would slow down or discourage the impulsive type idiot)

Put the environment miles before greed and ignorance. (Cane toads, rabbits, foxes, sparrows, carp, foreign starfish .....)

[Eastie]

"At a fundamental level, as human beings, you present for us the awful, threatening and unanswerable question: How did you come to be as you are?" -

quote from the closing remarks of Justice Frank Vincent in the trial of a Victorian serial sex offender and murderer who recieved a second life sentence and was recommended "never to be released".

Much can be said of the links between these comments and the actions of depraved individuals who actively and knowingly commit heinous crimes against animals - not to mention the obvious progression path some may choose to take.

[Iain]

Bugger the cats and dogs someone should let us have a cull on some of the feral bastards who live in town (our town, one was clocked past our place in excess of 200kph, police couldn't catch him, the ones who get p*ssed and break up the shopfronts, the cretins who let their kids chuck rocks at a disabled couple, good fun).
Thankfully we live out of town and are too far away to be targets, if we were they may just find themselves on the wrong end of a bloody big stick.

[ozwinner]

I think you lot are funny.

We train people to kill people ( the Army dude/s )
And when he/they killed a kitten you all get upset. :confused:

Al :confused:

[silentC]

not to mention the obvious progression path some may choose to take

I dunno, I think this is verging a bit on the old 'smoke dope, end up a heroin adict' argument. I'm sure that it's true for some. I guess some people are just bad. They probably start out kicking cats and end up you know where. That doesn't mean that all 'cat kickers' are going to become rock spiders or rapists though.

I think in a lot of cases all that is missing is respect. It's a major leap from hurting an animal to doing the same to a human, no matter how much animal cruelty sickens you. Plenty of people hunt with a gun. They enjoy that as a pastime but how many of them do you think would also enjoy shooting a human? They might fantasize about doing it but I think it takes a different type to actually do it.

I'm not comparing hunters to cat kickers, just saying there's a bit of a quantum leap from animals to humans. The ones who go on to inflict their perversions on people were probably going to do it anyway.

[Rocker]

There seems to be a double standard when it comes to cruelty to animals. Cruelty towards animals that look nice or are frequently kept as pets seems to be regarded as far more heinous than cruelty towards animals that are generally regarded as pests, such as cane toads. Personally, I don't like killing cane toads. It is not their fault that they were imported into Australia. But many people who would never consider cruelty to a kitten have no compunction in taking a golf club to a cane toad. My cruelty threshold reaches a little lower down the evolutionary scale - I have no compuntion about killing insects or bacteria that can pose a health hazard, but I am happy enough to let the native fauna compete with feral imports. If they cannot withstand the competition, so be it - let evolution take its course.

Rocker

[DanP]

His name was Tiddles and he could jump 5 feet in the air from a standing start.

'specially with a burning bum.

He went a bit wild in the end and it took about 10 ticks to kill him.

Yeah, tick...tick...tick...tick...tick...tick...tick...tick...tick...tick.........BOOM

:eek:



Dan

[Eastie]

Silent,

...path some may choose.....

[silentC]

Silent,

You could probably use it as an indicator of future 'problems'. It wouldn't hurt to have these things on record and keep an eye on them because it probably does indicate someone with the potential to do worse things. You just have to be careful that the ones who are doing it because their parents didn't teach them any better aren't caught up in it.

How many supreme court judges pulled the wings off flies when they were young?

[Iain]

I think you lot are funny.

We train people to kill people ( the Army dude/s )
And when he/they killed a kitten you all get upset. :confused:

Al :confused:

I didn't think they were trained to kill until they were all set to go to a theatre of war.
Pointing a gun at a target hardly constitutes training to kill.
We weren't taught anything until we went to that wonderful Qld resort, Kunungra, oh joy oh joy, balmy weather, beautiful flora, abundant wildlife and pleasant Seargants requesting we work a little better
And I was in the RAAF.