Barnaby Joyce

[rrobor]

At no time did I suggest anything was slander. What I suggested was 1/ insults are childish, and 2/ You insult those who put Gillard in which by our system is the majority, so you insult Australia.
To Geoff, his tangents are the way he goes, I am sure I dont know what planet he is on, because rather than his insults, the rest to me is nonsense.

[Sturdee]

the rest to me is nonsense.

And I have the same problems with most of the posts that you have made lately.

You seem to think that the majority elected this current coalition government when the real fact is that it wasn't. After the election Labor somehow managed to get the support from three independents and another small party to form this coalition government.

That in my opinion is not a majority, but a minority government.

This still wouldn't be so bad if the government stuck to the democratic principles of the Westminster conventions where a minister resigns if the stuff up or lie to the parliament.

But under this ultimate lying prime minister that leads this government that is not the case and we have a defacto dictatorship which doesn't listen to the majority of the people and is hell bent on destroying our way of life in order to hang on power.

Of course you will disagree with this, as with many other things, so debating this at length serves no purpose and would be a waste of my time, so I will leave this debate rather than bashing my head against a brick wall.

Peter.

[Geoff Dean]

[AlexS]

After the last election, either party would have had to do a deal to get in, and both tried. Labor succeeded. Get over it.

[Christopha]

Actually you are all wrong and I am right!


What was the question?

[Waldo]

Can I work in the shed on a Saturday planning my next project in Ketchup while I listen to Pink Floyd?

[ColW]

Can I work in the shed on a Saturday planning my next project in Ketchup while I listen to Pink Floyd?

YES! but preferably if it's Ketchup made using sustainable farming and processing techniques and Floyd is played using renewable energy!

[Waldo]

Given the choice I'd say to tree hugging so I can continue to listen to my music.

[ColW]

Given a choice I'd prefer 'wish you were here' for planning, 'Ummagumma' for construction and ketchup for finishing

[rrobor]

As Alex said both liberal and labor tried to form government and Labor suceeded Gillard went with policy as did Abbott, both had to modify to be accepted. The independants chose Gillard. Now if we wish to talk about minority governments, most of the time Liberals need to form a coalition with Nationals to form government, so please get real,
Some conveniently forget the Howard promise," No GST "which was a non core promise. Now GST I was against. but knew it would come regardless of which party got in because its a great tax for the politician.
As a farmers son I know better than most that nature has a fine balance, Stuff it up and you will pay dearly. Mildura was turning into a salt pan, thought and action has stopped that and irrigation continues.
People see the bogey man, its all doom and gloom. But its not, its just some methods can not continue. Look for solutions.

[damian]

Now boys, absolutely no need for this tone.

Apart from that we are geting off topic.

If you wish to debate forms of goernment and their merits I suggest you start another thread.

Actually I did that some time ago, search is your friend.

May I echo, calm down, no need to attack one another (we should all gang up and attack the government, and the opposition, and the minor parties...independents...)

Look what we've come to, who ever would have predicted ME a voice of reason!

[rrobor]

I am sorry if I offend, I say it as I see it. My politics are my own, but I note this site has now tagged me. Perhaps freedom of speech is dependant on what you say. If I never return that will not be my issue. Rob

[rrobor]

I at no time insulted anybody. I, believe it or not am a swinging voter so am not your leftie or rightie.
But in this forum I have been told my head is up my ass etc etc. Now I find have to go to extreme measures to clean my computer otherwise "Hello rrobor pops up on this site and this post has vanished into days gone bye. So sorry if you wish an ultra right woodwork forum then so be it. But please have the guts to say so. I am a lover of the products of U bute, please dont spoil that by politics.

[rrobor]

I would now like to state that things are back to normal thanks to whoever,. My gratitude sir. Rob

[Geoff Dean]

Some conveniently forget the Howard promise," No GST "which was a non core promise.

And most conveniently forget that it was "No GST in the term of this government".

He called an election and stated if returned would introduce a GST. If you are going to drag up that old smokey, at least try to get it right.

I at no time insulted anybody.

You told me to go find a tree, like I'm a monkey and should climb it. I found it very offensive.