Stained timber

[Yvette S]

Hello again all,

Just wondering if there is anything special I need to do in regard to painting stained timber. The previous owners loved it and it is everywhere! While I can replace things like skirtings and door jambs and such, I need to be able to paint the windows. Will the stain bleed through any paint I put over the top of it? Is there a special primer I can use that will ensure that I don't have cream trims with brown marbled through it from the stain?

Someone has told me that I will need to use metho to remove as much of the stain as possible before painting. Does anyone know if this is right also?

Thanks in advance

[seriph1]

Just go to your local SPECIALIST paint store - they will have a range of products that will assist, though I believe all you need do is sand, prime,paint

have fun!

[Gumby]

We are in the process of doing the same here. Just give it a light sand to give the paint something to cling to and put on an undercoat, then the top coat/s. I used enamel undercoat/sealer, lightly sanded again and then enamel top coat and it looks great. Just like a new window. I had previously used acrylic in another room and it was still fine as far as covering the old stain goes but I prefer the gloss look which enamel gives you. I'm about to do some more today in this lovely Melbourne Summer weather.

[Yvette S]

I just found a nice cheaty thing to do. Taubmans have a 3 in 1 paint, which is sealer, primer and undercoat in one. So I only need one coat. I figured I would do the painting today too since we are in such a lovely spell of weather. All I have to do now is give them a quick wipe over with soapy water then I'll be off!

Cheers

[seriph1]

I still feel al ight sand would be preferrable - which means a bit more work but you know ....

and I hate painting

[Yvette S]

the areas I am painting today have already had a light sand previously because I was going to do this a while ago and then thought about it and decided it could wait for another day

BTW I don't particularly love painting myself. But it is kind of soothing in a way, calms you down. ie Boring as bat----!

(Please note had to change previous post because I stupidly wrote top and not undercoat.)

[Gumby]

I'm a bit sceptical of those all in one type paints. You only need one coat of undercoat anyway, then the top coat. I've just come back from Bunnies (Scoresby) myself and there's lots of people buying timber, paint etc. Must be the time to do those renovations this week. At least it's cool and the cricket's on the radio.
back to the garage for me and continue my new storage cupboard.
I love holidays in the garage.............

[Bushmiller]

Yvette

I, too, am sceptical of any "combined" products in the decorating lines. Combined stain/varnish is very ordinary (the only favourable thing I can say is it comes off again easily when you realise you have made a mistake) and recently I made the mistake of painting a fence with combined primer undercoat. The tanins in the wood bled through. I know it takes longer and may be more expensive but separate dedicated paints are the way to go.

I am not sure about your advice with metho for removing stain. Metho certainly removes shellac. Either way it is probably unnecassary.

Regards

Paul

[Sturdee]

Someone has told me that I will need to use metho to remove as much of the stain as possible before painting. Does anyone know if this is right also?

Yvette,

There are different types of stains depending on the solvent used, being water based stains, oil based stains and spirit based stains. Most common ones are oil based and water based.

Trying to remove water based or oil based stains with metho is a waste of time and effort as only spirit based stains that uses metho can be removed that way.


Peter.