Spraying small items

[soundman]

The HVLP is a porter cable but ist is similar(amasingly) to the star unit the porter cable was cheaper at the time.

the suction touch up is the star that you can buy from trade tools or glenfords or others

no idea of the numbers but they are both easy to find

[Cliff Rogers]

Thanks bloke, I'm going past Glenfords later today, I'll wheel in for a look.

[Cliff Rogers]

OK, smee again...

Went to Glenfords, looked at lots of guns, (all Chinese,) talked lots of BS with the bloke there & I'm still a tad confused. I think he was too when I'd finished with him.
They only had one HVLP gun, a cheapie with a .8mm nozzle.
I know fug'all about spray'n licquer & the plastic laminated cheat sheet in the shop says I need a nozzle that is 1.8mm or bigger for the job. :confused:

I've left it all on the shelf & come home & gone ferret'n through this forum searching on "lacquer spraying" & come up with lots of good stuff BUT I still don't have all the answers.

What's the story with nozzle size & lacquer spraying?

Where can I find a good HVLP gravity feed gun for spraying lacquer on small stuff?
Woodturning size stuff, not the workbench, the shed, or the Mrs' bum.

Should I be looking in a spray paint'n shop?

[journeyman Mick]

Cliff,
go and talk to Dave at Cairns coatings, very knowledgeable bloke. Used to (probably still does) repair sprayguns for people. Sells some guns as well, I'm sure he'll be able to tell you what nozzle size you need. BTW they're the local agents for Mirotone lacquer etc.

Mick

[scooter]

Woodturning size stuff, not the workbench, the shed, or the Mrs' bum...

Shouldn't that be the tailstock Cliff ?

Or perhaps the lead screw...

Uh oh, gone too far again...


Cheers..........Sean, who hasn't turned

[Cliff Rogers]

Shouldn't that be the tailstock Cliff ?

Or perhaps the lead screw...

Uh oh, gone too far again...


Cheers..........Sean, who hasn't turned

Yeah all of that & more BUT.... the propotions are damned fine...

[Cliff Rogers]

...
go and talk to Dave at Cairns coatings...

Cool, they are just a couple more blocks down the road, less than 2 Kms from here.

Thanks Mick.

[soundman]

I'm not sure what needle sizes are in any of my guns.
Unless you are looking up the price range you don't get much of a choice.
the needle & seat sizes my also be a completely different story on HVLP because the aircap design is the major difference.
The porter cable from carbatec seems fine for a variety of stuff to me no choice of needle size is offered.

cheers

[Cliff Rogers]

OK, I've been to see Dave at Cairns Coatings, (recommended by a friend locally as well as Mick)

I now have a Star Mini S-106T/J 12G.
It's a Gravity feed touchup gun with 130ml cup & a 1.2mm Nozzle.
They have a web site but it hasn't been updated for a while & some of the stuff on the website doesn't match the stuff in the glossy brochure that came in the box with the gun.
http://www.star-sprayguns.com.au/index.html

The friend has the same unit but with a 1mm Nozzle & he says it's great for Mirotone Lacquer.
Dave at Cairns Coatings also sells Mirotone & he recommends at least a 2mm Nozzle but he knows the friend & says he knows that it works for him.

Anyway, I'm going to find out soon enough.

[RETIRED]

Reason: to fix cup size.

A,B or DD?

[Cliff Rogers]

Reason: to fix cup size.

A,B or DD?

Close, tonight I saw my first pair of those new rubber/silicon (?) "inserts" that you can get from 'crazy clarks' for about $14..... scary stuff.... it's a wonder the people who wear them don't get done for false advertising.
When I say, "I saw them" I don't mean, I found a pair in use by surprise. :eek:
Some one had bought a pair & they were showing them off.
And, no, they weren't modeling them either.

[2shane]

Love spray painting Koff Koff.............

Well I am a bit tired and can't think too well....

I have a $30 on special Super Cheap "compressor" bits and fittings kit (or was it more???) that came with a spray gun... 1 liter pot on it...

I picked up a touch up gun with a 1 liter pot, after a protracted fight with a seller on ebay , who took my money and wouldn't send it.... that was ummmmm $45 all up or something.

And I also have a CHEAP plastic air brush - a super cheap auto special....

Now I figure that I have all bases covered, until I need to spray ships.



The air brush is FANTASTIC, cause it sprays such an incredibly fine and soft spray, that turns even (thinned) ordinary oil based enamels into super shiny colored things.

I sprayed the back and sides of my remote controls, my mobile phone etc., etc., etc..

Like Whaaaaaaaaaa this is brilliant.


A heaps better finish than the spray can's.

And the touch up gun is brilliant too.. sprays heaps more than the air brush, both in volume and area, for bigger jobs.

And the 1 liter pot gun is fantastic too... only it puts down even more paint over a bigger area...

So I guess spraying and gun selection is all surface area, and you match your paint loads in the guns too that.


I am going to be using my touch up gun to spray poly-urethane paints over my guitar when I have stripped, modified, de-painted, reknobbed and rewired it......

It's a good size for that job, 2 or so coats per side and all around.

Wash the gun and leave it all dry for a day or two and then a couple more thin coats...

(I have not read the instructions for the paint yet.. so I am making up the respraying cycle).

If I want to do faint or fine highlighting in small areas, I'll use the air brush...

And when I want to respray my car, depending up on the size of the part, and the amount of paint I need to put on... (a few light coats etc.) I use the 200ml touch up gun or the 1 liter gun..

So it's ALL marvelous..

I am now right into plain enamel paints and turps for thinners....

Bingo.


And I run my compressor on OLIVE OIL, the air is fed through a vapor seperator, then through about 40 feet of hose to allow it all to cool down.

The air is fed through a condensate trap, an activated charcoal cannister of my own design, I use a fresh air respirator of my own design, and it's all wonderful.


No stinky oils.... clean dry fresh air... great guns... excellent paint jobs....

Excellent!