if you dont believe in global warming sign this

[hughie]

A petition to stop Australia being involved in the Copenhagen Global Warming aggreement


ONLINE PETITION > Senator Barnaby Joyce > Media Releases>>

[Waldo]

Have to agree with that.

[AlexS]

If you don't believe in global warming, good for you. But it won't alter the fact that exists, and something needs to be done to slow it down or reverse it. What do you suggest?

[Waldo]

My beef isn't global warming, it's Dudd and his rush and he won't talk about the costs that we will have to incur, which ulitimately has to push the CPI up and thus interest rates.

[Sparhawk]

To fight an illness- it costs money
To fight a recession - it costs money
To fight poverty - it costs money
To fight climate change - it costs money

To fix these global issues it costs money, we can argue forever about who will should have to shoulder that burden (China, US, Europe etc). In the end though, if we want to fight climate change, at least for the short term, the end result is it's going to cost us all money. If not through direct means like taxes, then indirectly via costs of goods and services (most of which we get supplied from outside Aus).

I don't want to pay more money (already I'll be paying off my home until I retire), but I am also prepared to face the reality of the situation, which ever side of government it comes from.

[tea lady]

My beef isn't global warming, it's Dudd and his rush and he won't talk about the costs that we will have to incur, which ulitimately has to push the CPI up and thus interest rates.

That's cos we had a late start cos nothing was done before. And the cost? We get to pay either way. At least if we do something we get something out of it in the end. Before the polluters got to make a mess without any recompense. We just had to turn a blind eye. A small price to pay for them getting rich I guess. But now we find its not just a mess that we get to live with, its changing everything and we don't get to turn a blind eye no matter how much we want to. Barnaby Joice is the Dudd.

[jimbur]

That's cos we had a late start cos nothing was done before. And the cost? We get to pay either way. At least if we do something we get something out of it in the end. Before the polluters got to make a mess without any recompense. We just had to turn a blind eye. A small price to pay for them getting rich I guess. But now we find its not just a mess that we get to live with, its changing everything and we don't get to turn a blind eye no matter how much we want to. Barnaby Joice is the Dudd.

Nice one Anne-Maria,
Cheers,
Jim

[glenn k]

A couple of thousand years ago the polar cap came down to Berlin and except for a few ups and downs it's been getting smaller ever since. Why is CO2 now the problem now? We have had ice ages come and go in the past was it dinosaus farting to much last time?
I don't know if CO2 is causing a problem now; but we have a nuclear lobby saying it is, oil companies saying it isn't, Brokers wanting to make a killing trading carbon credits saying it is,greenies wanting to save trees saying it is. None of these really care about global warming just there pet projects. So what is the general public that knows bugga all supposed to think? What ever the media tell them as usual.
To reduce CO2 maybe we should support Gunns and chop all the trees down chip them make paper etc them bury it in land fill what a great carbon sink.

[johnc]

Most of the world has moved on from these purile anti global warming arguements. We should be discussing what can be done, rather than kicking against it like that serial drongo Joyce and his side kick Nick Minchin.

China amongst others is actually investing huge amounts into alternative power, in the end the world will start to tackle this properly and we will be left at the wharf and those who got in early, developed the technologies and marketed them will do very well. We will again pretend to be the clever country while we buy in what we have to as we get our house in order.

FWIW the avarage Aussie produces five times as much CO2 as the average Chinese.

[Gingermick]

so is there going to be masses of extra plant growth with all the extra CO2 in the atmosphere?

[johnc]

That depends on the rate we reduce our forests and on the amount of rainfall available to promote growth. The dryness we are experiencing is also effecting Asia, and reducing agricultural output there. Dont tell Queensland or NSW at the moment, their feet are far to wet at the moment to believe you.

[tea lady]

so is there going to be masses of extra plant growth with all the extra CO2 in the atmosphere?

Yes, but it won't be as nourishing and you'll have to eat all day to get enough nutriants.

The only ones bleating about it being bad for the economy are the ones trying to sell coal fired electricity and oil. If we use less power they won't make as much money. They can't work out how to make money from a more economical society.

[BobL]

BJ or KR, you're still putting your trust in a politician

[SiJ]

On the head, Tea Lady

[FRB Design]

Sign it or dont sign it. either way neither you or I could do so with any certainty or not.

But if signing some pissy politicians petition makes you feel that you have done your part then sign away.


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