Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Needs Pictures Needs Pictures:  0
Picture(s) thanks Picture(s) thanks:  0
Results 1 to 7 of 7
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    MA
    Posts
    2

    Default Varnish problems

    Hi, I could use some advice. I've been trying to varnish a piece of furniture for the past week without sucess. It is a 1930’s buffet server (typically used in the kitchen) that I bought at a flee market. I cut a whole in the top for a drop in sink, and was going to use it for a really cool bathroom vanity. I’ve been recommended to use marine varnish on the top to prevent water damage, so I bought Captains Zspar Varnish and got to work. I wanted to keep its look / color / patina, so I didn’t want to strip it down to bare wood, and so my adventure begins…

    <1> 600grit W/D sandpaper til dull, wipe with damp cloth, varnish… result fish eyes.
    <2> steel wool, and more varnish on top of 1rst fish eye coat… same fish eyes.
    <3> 320grit W/D sandpaper down til dull, beyond fish eye depth, wipe clean –w- mineral spirits, and varnish … result fish eyes.
    <4> steel wool, wipe clean –w- mineral spirits, thin varnish –w- mineral spirits and apply… result fish eyes.
    <5> surface prep –w- cleaner (I think its acetone like stuff), it takes off all the previous varnish and surface shine and get the surface nice and ready, varnish… result.. yup fish eyes.

    What do I need to do? Go with Polyeurothane? Strip til bare wood? Please help.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Garvoc VIC AUSTRALIA
    Posts
    3,208

    Default

    Reckon someone has polished it with a silicon polish at some stage.
    If you are spraying a finish anti-silicon additives are available for Automotive finishes. Otherwise just wait for another suggestion on this forum.
    Regards, Bob Thomas

    www.wombatsawmill.com

  3. #3
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Kuranda, paradise, North Qld
    Age
    62
    Posts
    2,026

    Default

    It's no consolation at all to you, I know, but this post will be a great place to refer people to when they post questions about why they shouldn't use silicone in their workshop. . Go to an specialist automotive refinishing supplier and see what they have for you, they might just get you out of the pooh!

    Keep silicone where it belongs! out of the workshop and in bikini tops!

    Mick
    "If you need a machine today and don't buy it,

    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

    - Henry Ford 1938

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Port Pirie SA
    Age
    52
    Posts
    0

    Default

    You need some "prepwash" that they use on cars before they start applying paint... great for removing wax/grease/silicon and finger prints(oil!).
    ....................................................................

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Glenhaven, NSW
    Age
    82
    Posts
    80

    Default

    Dulux call it Prepsol. Use lots on a clean rag, pour it onto the rag, don't dip it in and keep using fresh clean rags or you just keep spreading the silicone.
    Graeme

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jul 1999
    Location
    Brisbane, Qld.
    Age
    48
    Posts
    579

    Default

    Esentially your problem is as descirbed by others. Mick has given the best advice so far. If you were using spray application the solution is easy. And dosn't involve additives.
    Prepsol really isn't going to help now at all, at best marginally, but get some as anything helps

    From a pro view I would suggest sanding it back to timber again or almost back to bare and apply VERY light coats of sealer which has been reduced considerably. Somtimes this will seal the silicon in, but long term results of this are unkown to me but it does work. Cause if you just keep putting coat on coat on coat your going to end up with 10kg of finish on the thing and still have the problem..... Oh, and yes use prepsol cause every little bit helps in the fight against such foes.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    MA
    Posts
    2

    Default

    I have some prepsol left over from some car painting I did a while ago (Jack-of-all-trades, I guess) Will the prepsol strip the color / stain / patina?

    when I started with the first attempt, I intentionally took the chance and not cleaned with any chemicals for fear of color damage. Obviously, after that, I changed my thinking and tried mineral spirits, then surface prep (which is basically acetone), now anything that will work.

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •