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    Al,

    Check out some of the old Popular Mechanics or Boys Own Crafts Books you have in the back of the shop.

    Years ago they used to publish all sorts of projects for cracked and broken 78's.

    I can't remember the details, but by bending them and gluing them together you could make things for Mum on Mother's day.

    Whose heart wouldn't melt when unwrapping the new recipe holder made with love, from a couple of Noel Coward's finest?

    You may have a market in craft kits there for the broken ones??

    Cheers,

    P

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    I found an album cover of the Baycity Rollers, not very inspiring I know, but it is signed by all the band members. Another one for ebay.

    I uncover new treasures every day, its like being on one giant treasure hunt.
    Did I mention it sure beats bricklaying??

    Al

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozwinner

    Did I mention it sure beats bricklaying??

    Al
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    Oz from my limited experience just about anything beats bricklaying
    Regards, Bob Thomas

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    Al,

    From my research I have found out that those old records not only contained shellac but also asphalt and asphaltum. The sticky goeye stuff is the undissolved asphalt and asphaltum and the black colouring is the dissolved asphaltum mixed in the shellac.

    Asphaltum is the stuff needed to do Black Japanning for restoring hand planes. I am restoring a few planes, some had no japanning on them at all and I brushed on 2 coats of the sticky goey followed with a coat of the black shellac.

    They came up beautiful, black and shiny. Almost makes having slipped on that slippery slope worthwhile seeing these planes take on a completely new look.


    Peter.


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    Good one Peter.

    I thought of doing the same meself, but Ive been kinda busy lately, so havent had time to try it.
    I figured it would work though.

    Al

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    pretty sure you can mix some black aniline dye with shellac to make it black. but whatever floats your boat

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    Quote Originally Posted by snappperhead
    pretty sure you can mix some black aniline dye with shellac to make it black. but whatever floats your boat
    Of course you can, and you can make any colour of the rainbow AND MORE mixing dyes with shellac. Even the exalted Ubeaut gave advice in this thread on how to make black shellack using a universal tint.

    But you miss the point entirely. :eek:

    WHAT FLOATS MY BOAT is the fact that the black goeye mixture made by dissolving old 78's can be used as a substitute for Black Japanning in restoring old planes.

    That was the point of reopening this thread, maybe not of interest to you but maybe to others.


    Peter.

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    sorry i thought the thread said black shellac not japanning.

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    I found this whilst flicking through an old book (1890) used for staining ships guns but also good for wood.

    To one gallon of vinegar add a quarter of a pound of iron rust,
    let it stand for a week;
    then add a pound of dry lampblack,
    three quarters of a pound of copperas;
    stir it up at intervals for a couple of days.
    Lay five or six coats with a sponge,
    allowing it to dry well between each.
    Polish with linseed oil and soft woollen rag,
    and it will look like ebony.

    There are also a couple variations to this.

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    Hang on while I check the condition on my cannons......argh.

    Al

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazaster
    Ithen add a pound of dry lampblack,
    three quarters of a pound of copperas;
    Lampblack and copperas ? Should be easy to get these days.


    Peter.

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    I winder where I can buy iron rust? If only I knew someone that sold everything. Sought like a huge emporium of all the worlds oddities, you know spare arms and legs of maniquins, old 78's and the like.
    Perhaps someone can help me with a supplier of top quality iron rust?
    Boring signature time again!

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    Peter I got some copperas a couple of months a ago, it is available from your garden suppliers.


    Al argh

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    Quote Originally Posted by outback
    I winder where I can buy iron rust? If only I knew someone that sold everything. Sought like a huge emporium of all the worlds oddities, you know spare arms and legs of maniquins, old 78's and the like.
    Perhaps someone can help me with a supplier of top quality iron rust?
    Sorry, our iron rust is only second quality.

    Al

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