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15th August 2007, 01:10 AM #1
Fair Dinkum
Slang puts sheila in fair dinkum trouble
An Australian woman thought she was cactus when a hostie got her back up over some classic Aussie slang during a flight in the United States.
"Fair dinkum," NSW woman Sophie Reynolds muttered when told by a air hostess that there were no pretzels for her to snack on.
The next thing Reynolds knew, the flight crew had demanded her passport to note down her details, telling her that swearing at attendants was a crime.
The 41-year-old, who lives in Queanbeyan, near Canberra, was stunned to find three uniformed officers waiting for her when she left the flight in the city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
"They said: 'You swore at the hostess and there are federal rules against that'," Reynolds told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
"And I said: 'I did not swear at the hostess, I just said 'fair dinkum'."
Fair crack of the whip!
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15th August 2007, 03:24 AM #2
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15th August 2007, 08:31 AM #3
Them seppo's are a weird mob huh? When I read it I wondered if she had inserted the universal adjective where it normally goes. In my limited travel in the States they are a lot more uptight and sensitive than your average Dingo. Flew on one American Airlines flight where the hostie just kept asking me if I wanted anything, when I uttered strewth she blushed, and the guy next to me told me it was better not to use such language!
Stick a snowball where it fits to the lot of em,
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15th August 2007, 08:46 AM #4
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15th August 2007, 10:04 AM #5
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the feedback, and there are glaring inconsistencies from an Aussies point of view. This was the same week Schwazeneggar called the Democrats a pack of weenies in the housel. What would the marshall have done if I read that out loud from the paper?
I loved the Americans, detested the false morality imposed by the authorities. I ran across wierd stuff in other places as well, like when I asked in this restaurant why there were no black or hipanic people in the offices of the company I was working with, could have hit my host with a shovel and wouldnt have got more silence. To be fair that was Texas.
Do you consider "Fair Dinkum" to be swearing? Serious question,
Sebastiaan"We must never become callous. When we experience the conflicts ever more deeply we are living in truth. The quiet conscience is an invention of the devil." - Albert Schweizer
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15th August 2007, 10:26 AM #6
My first encounter with US weirdness was just after my travelling partner saved me from getting run over by a wood panel sided station wagon in New York because I looked the wrong way before crossing the road! We were on our way to MacDonalds to get some breakfast. I asked for hotcakes and the girl wanted to know if I wanted sausage with it. Why the hell would I want sausages with hotcakes and maple syrup? Well, OK, I'll give it a go. But it wasn't a sausage, it was a hamburger pattie. Strange mob!!
"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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15th August 2007, 10:32 AM #7
I think its time for some cultural sensitivity training all round...
Sorry couldnt find the tounge in cheek smillieI may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
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15th August 2007, 10:42 AM #8
Here I have "The little book of Great Aussie Slang". Fair Dinkum is not an Aussie slang because it is not on the list.
Hmm what does "couldn't fart in a bottle" mean? Sounds pretty rude.
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15th August 2007, 10:45 AM #9
Serious answer. No. But most Seppos wouldn't know what it means. Even so, how can it be swearing? It is actually a phrase of love.
I have a feeling there is a context to this story we don't know yet. Even so, fair dinkum seems almost, you know, like agreeing with the hostie, as in "Fair dinkum, too bad there are no pretzels. What a pity. Maybe next time."
Doesn't seem at all hostile. I don't get it, unless there is more to the story.
Cheers,
Bob
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15th August 2007, 10:51 AM #10Fair Dinkum is not an Aussie slang because it is not on the list"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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15th August 2007, 10:57 AM #11
I got into trouble once when I used the term "sheila" in front of a female director of a large seppo franchise. Even though we knew each other quite well professionally, she went pretty much spack.
When I could get a word in edgewise, I explained that "sheila" was not a derogatory term, providing one was describing a sheila as one, but had I called a bloke a sheila she may have had a point.
I lost a few brownie points that dayand there was no one else in Connecticut to back me up! Fair dinkum, it fair ripped the fork out of my nighty.
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15th August 2007, 11:12 AM #12
We had a guy from Chile working with us a few years ago. 'es name was Carlos. He was totally mystified by metaphors.
He was a business analyst and, despite his Latin blood, completely calm and not given to histrionics, which I can assure you were warranted given the person he reported to (a Greek woman, now there's a match made in heaven!).
I used to say to him when he'd come out of her office with that look on his face "Carlos, it's water off a duck's back to you, isn't it mate?" I always had the feeling he got it but didn't let on.
After I left the company, I had an email from him telling me he'd resigned and bought a news agency in the country. He signed off "Carlos, the featherless duck".Last edited by RETIRED; 15th August 2007 at 02:50 PM. Reason: seen by the one directed to:)
"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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15th August 2007, 11:44 AM #13
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15th August 2007, 11:53 AM #14fair dinkum seems almost, you know, like agreeing with the hostie
eg.
He's a fair dinkum bloke = He's a genuine sort of chap
Is that fair dinkum? = Are you being honest with me, my good man?
Then it became a rhetorical exclamation of surprise at a statement being made:
Bloke 1: See that bloke over there, he reckons he can scull fifteen schooners in 15 minutes!
Bloke 2: Fair dinkum?
From there, it naturally evolved into an ironic retort:
Have you got any peanuts?
No, I'm sorry we are fresh out of peanuts.
Fair dinkum!
And that's the fair dinkum truth!"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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15th August 2007, 12:01 PM #15
Heck I've lived here all my life and I still get into hot water frequently with normal speak. I'm afraid we've gotten so thin skinned and wrapped up in PC speach we've mopped ourselves into a corner with any real personal comunication. The way things are going in the states it won't be long before we live in T.H. Whites ant community. "Anything not mandatory is forbidden."
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