The Australian ID Card

[Ashore]

Do you agree with the Aussie ID card or are your civil liberties compromised by having one

A lot of other countries have ID cards , and with the changing times, international terrorism etc do we need ID cards or can we stay the same as we are.

[ozwinner]

The poll bit is missing,..

Al

[Christopha]

Is this a POLL or a Pole? Who or what is a "yopu"? The wizard of ID rules! OK?
Oh, and I am never civil when I take liberties anyway...

[Gumby]

I can't see why not. I've got nothing to hide (unfortunatley )

[ozwinner]

Is this a POLL or a Pole? ...

We all know you like a pole.......
But what you get up to in the privacy of your bedroom with a stick is your business..

Al :eek:

[oges]

Havent really been paying much attention to the talk on the ID card, what information are these things going to have that licences and things dont already have about us? How do they weed out terrorists? are they hard to make forgeries of or something.

Im sure theres a website with the answers if I could be bothered to look

[ozwinner]

Havent really been paying much attention to the talk on the ID card, what information are these things going to have that licences and things dont already have about us? How do they weed out terrorists? are they hard to make forgeries of or something.

Im sure theres a website with the answers if I could be bothered to look

Someone I know used to make fake driving licences to get into night clubs, .............not for driving purposes.
It was dark and the bouncers didnt check too well..

So I would imagine it wouldnt be too hard to make an Oz Card.

If you want an Oz Card PM me................

Al

[Gumby]

How do they weed out terrorists?

They don';t give one to terrorists, so if you don't have one, you must be a terrorist.

See, simple. I like it. If you haven't got one, you get shot.

[Ashore]

Oges
My wife had her licence stolen a couple of years age , was renewed with her showing a visa card as refference , I have also heard of women who have applied for and gotten a new licence ( Saying it was lost or stolen) because they wanted a better picture

I don't think Drivers licences are that good

Maybe an ID card won't be any better , but it can't be much worse

[Grunt]

Just because other countries have'em doesn't mean it's a good thing.

The law makers just have to mention terrorism and they can pass just about any law they want. The sedition laws that we have are something out of Berlin in the 1930s.

We are governed by people who use fear to keep them in power. It works a treat too. Both sides of politics are guilty as the other.

[Grunt]

Maybe an ID card won't be any better , but it can't be much worse

It'll be just a few years and Gumby will be right. Meybe they won't be shot but certainly detained, without trial and without legal representation. Don't laugh, these are the laws we have now.

[Shedhand]

I don't see a real problem. Only crims and rich tax avoiding barstards will be against it. What does irk me though is that they'll squander a couple of tens of million dollars setting up an inquiry, writing reports, hiring consultants and badmouthing each other when the nsimple solution is right under their collective noses. Send everyone with a Medicare Card (which is all of us) a new improved Photo ID Australian Medicare Card and simply print our Tax File Number on it. When you retire the TFN converts to a Social Security number. The real bonus is that everyone still working will never lose track of their superannuation. Currently $8.1 Billion is being held in the Lost Superannuation Fund administered by the ATO. Privacy Laws prevent the super funds using tax file numbers to track down fund owners. Its a shonky way for the government (of all persuasions) to keep their greedy mitts on our money.:mad:
Getting down off the box now.:mad:

[Driver]

I don't think Drivers licences are that good

Au contraire, mon brave! There's nothing wrong with my licences! People have been scamming their way into dodgy nightclubs with them for years.

[redwood]

Privacy Laws prevent the super funds using tax file numbers to track down fund owners. Its a shonky way for the government (of all persuasions) to keep their greedy mitts on our money.:mad:
Getting down off the box now.:mad:

Shed go

https://superseeker.super.ato.gov.au...ult.aspx?pid=0

enter your TFN, date of birth, blah blah, and if your owed it will be here

[Grunt]

I don't see what good it will do. Terrorist have been known to lie, cheat and produce fake Ids. I don't think that this will stop those who want to bad.

It will however make it possible for a government of the future to enact laws that will further errode our civil rights. If you look back in history, this is what facist governments have done. Our rights are erroded in small ways until we one day wake up and discover that we have none.