Sexually degrading (WARNING - Contains nude photo's)

[ubeaut]

The following pics were posted in the jokes forum. After having a complaint about them being "sexually degrading and not in the best interest of the BB" I have decided to pose the question to members.

Do you find the following pics sexually degrading?

Pic 1 Click here for enlargement

Pic 2 Click here for enlargement

Pic 3 Click here for enlargement


Do you think these and pics like them are detrimental to the BB?

There are four sections for answers in the pole above. You may answer yes or no for each picture and the detrimental one.

I've already formed my opinion and have acted accordingly. I am interested in what others think and might have to say. Lets try and keep it sensible and out of the gutter please.


Cheers - Neil

[Termite]

I'm certainly no prude but we must remember that there are ladies who view the BB. IMHO in the interest of all, lets keep our pics in our workshop (if you're allowed) you aught to see the poster of the bir. ahem, lady on the Harley that my wife bought me.
Kind regards
Termite
ps. lets face it, at my age a pic of a Jet Supersaw gets me drooling.

[DaveInOz]

While I think these pics are fine, and funny, I fear opening a flood gate of soft girly pics. So I think a line has to be drawn that is unambiguous, all in or all out.
I think the action taken has been excelent, let those that wish to see them click through and do so, those that don't want to can refrain from clicking.

I'm going to hate myself later

[Christopha]

As the poster of two of the pics I would like to say that in the case of pic.1 I placed plenty of warning and if you still went there and were offended then you are a bloody idiot and probably look for offense wherever possible. In the case of pic.3, I didn't place a warning because the details of the possibly offensive "bits" are well and truly obscured by a couple of litres of black and yellow paint. Once again, if you are offended by that pic then you have a problem.

As for Sorens pic.2, I found that extremely offensive! MY GOD! A Fibreglass boat on a wood forum???? DISGUSTING!!!

[himzol]

I wasn't sure as to how to answer this, apart from it not belonging on this BB.

In case people are wondering, I didn't find it offencive or funny, just a waste of cyber space.

Himzo.

[Rocker]

It seems to me that at least some of these pictures break the forum rule that prohibits . Allowing them to be posted is liable to discourage the female members of the forum from participating in it. I think it would be a pity if they were to leave because of this. So I think the rule on should be strictly enforced. There are plenty of websites where can be found, if people want it. This forum is for woodworking; let's keep it that way.

Rocker

[Christopha]

????????? You would have to be a bottle fed, analy retentive, small minded fool to consider No.1 or No.3 to be ! My wife is a very straight laced lady and she had a wee smile at both before I posted them, I would not have posted them if I thought anyone foolish enough to be offended.
Whilst this is a woodwork forum there are many views on many things which are discussed, (thank goodness that no-one has been silly enough to bring up politics or religion) and things usually stay remarkably cool. however, one of the most popular sections seems to be the Jokes forum and if it's compromised in this way then I think that a real shame and once again a case of a few loud loonies spoiling "IT" for the rest.......... :mad:
This is silly, it was a Flaming joke !!!!!!!!!!!

[aussieglen]

I thought the photos were delightful but I regret I failed to see anything remotely funny about them. If it was meant to be a joke then I for one missed the point. This forum has demonstrated its propensity for very funny jokes and repartee and there seems to be little need for moving into the sexual area. Evidence shows that there plenty of other subject for jokes and funnies. If the human body has to be the topic of a joke then I would think that in a woodies forum with presumably mostly men then the 'ocker' body might be more appropriate.

[gatiep]

I feel that the pictures themselves are not degrading, what does degrade them or almost any pic of the female body, is the beholders mind.

The first pic ( not necessary number 1, 2 or 3 ) that gets posted may be funny, thereafter it becomes monotonous and the posibility of posters trying to 'outdo' oneanother can become a problem. I sure have better and more constructive things to do and look at. I don't know what action Neil took, but my choice would be to keep this BB free of those type of pics as the BB has a rule, which I would interpret as no nudity.
They didn't offend me, however I surely wouldn't go to the trouble to open a post if I knew it contained those pics.........would rather look at a nice lathe!Then again I must say that I don't read novels or story books or watch soapies but have only ever read technical stuff and enjoy documentaries on TV. Maybe I'm the odd one out but hey, I'm happy in myself and frankly that is what matters to me.

[PaulS]

Females have fought long and hard to be seen as more than just a piece of flesh that is drooled over. Now I wouldn't say that it is , but I do think that they sexually degrade women, I agree with rocker,there is plenty of places to go if you want to look at that stuff.

[Wood Borer]

I consider myself broad minded and an admirer of the female form - like most blokes. I don't consider the pictures however I am mindful there are people with different views and values who also share this BB.

I visit this BB for information exchange about woodwork and to have a bit of fun with other woodworkers.

If the pictures turn away some good woodworkers from this BB whether they be prudish, narrow minded or any other label you can give them then the pictures should go or be hidden. The prime purpose of the BB is woodwork after all.

If we are not turning people away because of the pictures then let the pictures stay. It didn't cross my mind to leave the BB because of the pictures.

After reading this dribble after writing it , I realise Neil has virtually said the same thing. I agree with Neil's approach.

[Bob Willson]

I find myself unable to disagree with Christopha. This is NOT . If you doubt it, I will post some links that ARE for .

I am interested in the term "sexually degrading". Who is it degrading? I don't feel any degradeder than before I saw them. My wife is an artist and thought that the posing of No 1 was an excellent juxtapositioning of foreground and background. Is it degrading women? I fail to see where that is taking place either. Throughtout history it has been the objective of women to make themselves more sexually attractive to men.

Therefore, I must conclude that it is the ugly people on this board who don't like this sort of beauty because they are precluded from its enjoyment both physcially and mentally. Great leap of deduction that.

Number three can be seen as a joke. Nothing more. NOTHING is visible.

Number two is ... hmmmm. Great shot whoever took it but it probably is excess to reqiurements for this board. Maybe a separate area altogether is needed. Any women who are offended by seeing pictures of other women should not buy any females magazines from now on. Many of the pictures in them are FAR more explicit than any shown here.

[namtrak]

Maybe those blokes who are getting their knickers in a knot because some people are pointing out that the BB is ostensibly about woodwork and not about pics of sheilas, should take out their own digi cams and take some photos of themselves in their y-fronts and then post them up on the internet so we can all decide wether it is or prawn.



Notice the complete lack of punctuation in my sentence?

Cheers
namtrak

[Rocker]

Bob,

I have to agree that No. 1 was a beautiful artistic picture; I personally don't find any of the pictures offensive, but I just feel they are irrelevant to the purpose of this forum, and if they discourage women from participating in it, that is a good reason for excluding them. Perhaps we need the views of some of the female members.

I think this question is one of politeness rather than morality. When I was a public servant, I supported the ban on posting nude pictures on notice boards in government offices, not because i considered them immoral, but because I was aware that most female public servants found them offensive.

Rocker

[DavidG]

Looked at them.
Went Uh Uh, closed and went to the next post.
Don't care, seen more on the beach.

Always amuses me why the female breast is not to be shown where the male breast can be.

Back in the Creatian {sp} times the display of the breast was the normal.
The Victorian era placed the mantle of "Shame" over all normal bodily function.

How long has it taken for Breast feeding in public to be considered acceptable.
The problem is in the mind of the viewer, not the female form.