Couldn't understand the closed election poll thread, so I'll say it here, the poll was wrong...we've got a (I was gonna say Ruddslide) change of government...:2tsup:
Will we have a headache in the morning?
Cheers
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Couldn't understand the closed election poll thread, so I'll say it here, the poll was wrong...we've got a (I was gonna say Ruddslide) change of government...:2tsup:
Will we have a headache in the morning?
Cheers
Some already have one, I have heard that there have been some construction contracts over here that have had a 10% premium attached to them (Rudd tax) beacuse companies are worried about what the unions here will do with Federal Liberal out and state Labour already in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Mac
There will be a lot to take notice of in the days ahead.
We have a dithering and shadow of a candidate who is now PM. It remains to be seen how well they can do the job but a fine government has been chucked out for the sake of a change.
Baffles me
Studley
I agree Studley.
I know the building industry will get the shivers.
Small business operators will have to be far more carefull employing people if at all.
It will be interesting to see how well he can controll the Union element and the left. Already Gillard is saying we have a mandate to abollish Work Choices, yet Rudd watered down what they would abollish in the campain. Now it will be interesting to see what he will do.
I agree with Studley.... thank the lord I am retired:(:(:(
les
Well, don't blame me. I didn't vote for him. :rolleyes: People probably be saying that in a year like they did with all the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burnsy
Howard was called little johnny. So whats Rudd going to be called ?
anyone want to take a wager on how long before Gillard makes a bigger push to be cattle dog.
Australians have always vascillated between the left and the right in politics. This means that who we are is located somewhere in the middle. In fact, I think it's fair to say that we like to be somewhere between the European left and the American right. I think it's a great system and one we should be proud of.
I accept that I'm weird, but I sat down at 5.30 to watch the election, switching backwards and forwards between the three channels, sipping wine, and watched it until 9, then 7 faded, and finally the ABC ended it's coverage. To me this is heaven. :U
I work in an industry very heavily reliant on power (electicity). When I turned on the radio this morning I heard a conservationist from whatever green group, spruking the fact Rudd promissed to ratify the Kioto protocol.
If we can't use brown coal and they don't want nuclear, how on earth are we going to power industry?
How long will it be before the radical union organisers crawl from under the rocks they've been hiding under?
With only 7 years until I can retire...............I"M SCARED !!!!:no:
Before we start bashing we should learn whats ahead...
Harry is on the money. It might end up being a very good government, that remains to be seen. There were many contradictions in the Rudd campaign, such as caring about reducing greenhouse gas and caring that petrol cost too much. If the price of petrol doubled wouldn't it reduce the amount we burn and reduce greenhouse gasses? Just one example. The Rudd government will now have to reconcile those contradictions, how good their government turns out to be will depend on it.
When I was formerly in business the IRC brought in unfair dismissal conditions for small business. I was angry as they were effectively taking away my dream of growing my business and employing people. Unfair dismissal laws make it much more risky to employ people.
Talking about contradictions Rudd's Razor Gang goes up against Rudd's many inquiries. The razor gang aims to cut waste but inquiries increase bureaucracy. Which on we have will be interesting to see.
Of course the other important thing is how the Liberal Party bounces back from it's defeat. A good part of the swing to Labor was due to the big swing against Latham at the previous election and the electorate was returning more to it's normal position. Should the Liberal Party present ideas and focus on balancing the government rather than brawling with itself then our democracy will manage to stay on it's feet and the government will be prevented from wild extravagances.
Studley
Wow
What a win. Though I didnt vote for Rudd I actually feel pretty good this morning.
The greens preferances got them the extra seats they needed so it will be interesting to watch the power struggle from the greens.
First to go will be the pump mill and will be a real test to see if the greens do have the power.
A simple threat from bob brown that the preferances for the next election will be withdrawn and they are a one term team.
cheers
dazzler
Doesn't baffle me, I reckon the thought of having Costello as PM was enough to turn the tide! :~Quote:
Originally Posted by Studley 2436
Cheers,
This fear of the unions as if Stalin was about to take power in Australia and turn the country into a Soviet Union amuses me. It's reminescent of the "reds under the beds" era and shows how successfully the coalition's PR machine tapped into peoples simple fears.
I think Kevin Rudd made it clear last night that he wants to work against differences identified as the Union/Business, State/Federal, inigenous/non-indigenous dichotomies.
People who start talking negatively about the country's future under Labor are engaging in self-fulfilling prophesies. Even the most red-necky Australian would agree that a lot of the money John Howard was throwing around should be channelled towards improving our health systems.
"Doesn't baffle me, I reckon the thought of having Costello as PM was enough to turn the tide! "
And the tought of Rudd and Gillard as our leaders inspires you ??:doh:
Australia has spoken.
I salute our new TinTin overlord. May his government be excellent, and may we live in harmony until the next time we get to choose.
woodbe.
I'll reserve judgment. Lets hope the unemployment figures don't skyrocket under the new government like last time they were in. Hope they keep some of their promises. Me? I am looking forward to lightning fast internet connection. :)
Nah I reckon they just didn't want Howard any more. Costello has long been the standout performer of the Liberal Government. I don't think there are any feelings at all against Costello.Quote:
Originally Posted by obee60
Studley
Johnny and his crew did a good job with the economy but they lied, lied, lied.:~
They ran a negative campaign. :no:
People do not like that so out they went. :2tsup:
Next time I will toss the coin (Consider which party will do the least damage) and vote accordingly.
PS: I think some liberal ??economists?? need to do some study as to where the foundations of the present economy were put into place....
I heard last night that the highest office-holding liberal in Australia is now the Lord Mayor of Brisbane ?
Cheers
Michael
So you believe the Howard's government lies about unemployment. Currently unemployment is already in the 10 -15 % range and not the 3 percent they claim. :((Quote:
Originally Posted by munruben
Don't forget that everyone who works ONE WHOLE HOUR a week is considered not to be unemployed, neither are the ones on non work participation agreements (study courses, voluntary work etc) hence the lies about the low figures.
Noone in the government would ever release the people officially on New Start allowances because that would expose their lies.
BTW I'm glad we finally got rid of that little bush and his coherts.
Peter.
"BTW I'm glad we finally got rid of that little bush and his coherts."
So you'll be ordering a green cap with a red star attached then Sturdee .
Nah, sounds like you already got a cupboard full !!!!!
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Originally Posted by obee60
:? Reds under the bed? Settle down Obee60.
Anyway, as a leftie and a Labor supporter, I want to say that I respect John Howard and I like him as a person. Goodbye John; I'm not all that happy that you may lose Bennelong. It's not a good way for a prominent Prime Minister to depart.
Very well said :2tsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sturdee
The ex labour Minister quoted as saying "Rudd couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag" hit the nail on the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossluck
What I wont miss is the wedge politics and the incessant picking on the minorities, Aboriginals, Muslims, single mothers and the like. That is of course if Little Kev is true to his word....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sturdee
Thomas Keneally's piece in the Sun Herald in Sydney is worth reading,
Hey Obee, theyre still executing blacks in Texas, Rudd fought and beat Howard,
Sebastiaan
Rudd didn'y beat Howard.
The IR laws introduced late beat Howard.
And as for picking on minorities........get a grip and have a look at how much we spend on so called minorities !!
I guess the poor white people still being executed in America don't count in your opinion !!
Its already being used for something else.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by apricotripper
Yeah, and he'll apologise to everyone, opening us up to huge compensation claims, which he will then have to drain the Future Fund to pay for them, leaving nothing to fund exhorbitant Pollies and Public Servants superannuation payments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sebastiaan56
I remember well the last time this mob were in, Libs had to sell all the silverware to get us out of debt. Alas, there is no silverware left, so if the debt levels rise, we all will cop it.:((
Well said Geoff. :2tsup:
Spot on the money :D
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by obee60
And I'm over this regurgitated garbage that unions will ruin the country. What was so wrong about the unions and Hawke working together to get every worker in Australia compulsory super? Do only the rich have rights to security in retirement? The previous Labor govt didn't give us high interest rates either, it was a worldwide trend...unless you think they were so powerful as to affect everyone else. Can't blame them alone!!
My take on the (thankfully) previous govt is they increased the divide between the affluent and the rest of us. They pandered to greed and fear. Hopefully we can look to fairer and less greedy future.
Cheers,
You're just not looking in the right places.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Studley 2436
"And I'm over this regurgitated garbage that unions will ruin the country. "
You need to get a grip on reality Andy :doh:
As a person who has worked since he was 16 years old, raised 2 children and owns his own home, I suppose I'm what you would consider rich.
And I suppose you also bought Keatings "recession we had to have" line.
Bring out the green caps with red stars again. :doh:
No need to fight over Costello guys:
Costello turns down Libs leadership
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...25/2100538.htm
The problem wasn't so much that people were against him, it's that few were for him, even though he has done a good job on the economy over the last few years.
You're probably right Obee, I just don't like the reality on offer!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by obee60
Anyway, back to wood and metal work, the reality I do believe in.
Cheers, have a good day.
Agreed Andy :D Lets get back to the stuff we truly believe in AND ENJOY :2tsup:
Regards............obee:rolleyes:
Well the interesting news now is that Costello is not going to be the leader of the Coalition!
Apparently has decided to take a back seat and will probably step down at the next election.
It would appear the Costello will never be PM. In reality, he must hate John Howard.:)
Or maybe he never really wanted the job that much.
Turnbull would have to be a shoe-in for the position now...
I hear Gillard has made a move to topple Rudd as leader of Labour.
P.S. Could the mods change the date of this post to next week, that should be heaps.