Why Are Some People With Very High IQ Just Plain Stupid?
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Why Are Some People With Very High IQ Just Plain Stupid?
Because there is a difference between being clever and smart?Quote:
Originally Posted by echnidna
Like the engineer who hasn't got a clue about motors
The maths teacher who can't explain how they got the answer
Because it's our prerogative.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by echnidna
I was just going to watch this thread and say nuthin but this reply deserves a :2tsup: :2tsup: :2tsup: :2tsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexS
Because the poor buggers haven't been exposed to 'real life' - they are generally ostracised at school by the students and frequently their parents are either 'intellectual' and or non-physical types, so they don't get much exposure there.
I went to school with one fellow, he got the all-time record average mark at Uni in first year. Definitely a non-starter at any sports (I wasn't much better either) or other social activities. Last I heard of him he was an engineering boffin somewhere outside of Melbourne.
It's simply education beyond intelligence, lads. Nothing more, nothing less.
See also EQ.
Educated DHs my old man calls them.
Do you mean stupid or ignorant? Please give us an example.
A lot of them have no COMMON sense.
Yep some are real bright... we've had a top honcho metallurgist trying to get a sample of dross using a plastic scoop into a plastic bag... :no:derrrrr the dross is 450° surely you could feel the heat coming off it from 20' away!
Another one doing a process commission asked me why his air driven lead pump was going so slow... god knows how but he had got the fittings to connect it up to a gas line, lucky there was no ignition source:flamed:!
Anyone know when the 5 o'clock news starts?
Going by our local stations, about quarter past 5. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Capt. Zero
Actually common sense is anything but (or is that butt?). Its just having someone who agrees with you.
Sebastiaan
Mostly so they can fit in with the rest of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by echnidna
What is an high IQ someone who goes to UNI and is taught or those who have either taught themselves or from life experiences
What would you do Ecnidna if you had an High IQ :U
It's lonely at the top..:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
les
IQ has nothing to do with education, so it's very possible for someone to have a high IQ and be poorly educated or vice versa.
You certainly never want to assume that just because someone has earned a degree they must have a high IQ.
Maybe that answers your question...
So all those educational experts are just that hasbeensdripsunderpreasureQuote:
Originally Posted by silentC
Well, IQ is supposed to be a measure of intelligence and it is used to predict your potential. Someone might have a high IQ but it is then up to them what they do with it. So if they have a high IQ but no motivation to learn anything, they can end up being really good at crossword puzzles but useless at anything practical.
Someone might have a low IQ but be really motivated to learn - they find it harder and it takes them longer to develop an understanding but they get there in the end.
And then there is the situation in universities which seem to be focused on results these days, pumping out degrees in high volume. So you have all these supposedly highly educated people wandering around without a clue because either they haven't been pushed to reach their full potential, or they have been allowed to scrape through to keep the stats up.
And then there are people like me :D
and what are people like u like SC?
You would never understand, Zed :p
What I find amazing is what is used to determine IQ's
why is it that more dropouts are rich $$$???
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Originally Posted by silentC
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Originally Posted by Zed
I'll have a go at it...Quote:
Originally Posted by silentC
It would have to be something along the lines of...
'You don't have to be highly educated to be clueless.' :D
You said it, mate :)Quote:
I would have to be something along the lines of...
'You don't have to be highly educated to be clueless.'
Good pick up. :wink:
More opportunities to squanderQuote:
Originally Posted by wheelinround
Itallect, mind psyche, conception, rationality...inspiration, sheer brilliance, genius, mensa, apitude, intuition, giftedness, wits, nous........
....all depends if you can read instructions on life ...... live it. Live it well. Don't hurt others.
....if they don't have a shed..... they definitely wont understand .... don't borrow....don't lend....don't waste time trying to figure it all out.....
Common us?...no way....elite woodworkers....tried to get a Doctor to read his own writing or a lawyer to use a hammer.....LOL
(oh that wasn't fair, I like my Doctor... he just keeps perscribing me Codine....mmm.... what's my medi alert bracelet say...der...that's why they write it in BIG RED letters on my file....) so he's colour blind & can't read....so what?
Idiot savante's?....answer that one... it's all crossed wires....it's how we choose to live with what we learn.... & how we choose to treat others.... IQ is just a rating for those who wish to be put their ???? on a totum pole...
opps sorry got bit carried away with this... treat people kindly...learn what you can....help when you can .... I Quietly pass through life with the wisdom God gave me... learning how he wants me to use it...
.....bye
KEKEMO
There is a vast difference between Intelligence , and academic ability .
The first two earthlings into space were academics ,
one was a monkey , the other was a dog ....... :D
I have high IQ because I read Financial Review.:cool:
My head hurts.
Rats, I just look at the picturesQuote:
Originally Posted by Wongo
Sebastiaan
:think: Sorry can't help you. There is no TV guide in my Financial review.Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt. Zero
Yes but did you read Alex yesterday........ He has been watching me, its my job he is talking aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by Wongo
Because high IQ just means that you are good at doing IQ tests. You can make sure anyone will get a high score by teaching them how to do the tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by echnidna
One reason is that they are culturally biased - they depend on common experiences of persons in Western (esp US) society. You can be a very smart Papuan, but you can't get a good IQ score unless you can understand what the educational psychologist from Ohio who put the test together was talking about (imagine how you would go if the test depended on the sort of common knowledge and cultural assumptions that Papuan natives have and we based our IQ tests on that common knowledge and those cultural assumptions).
Nobody is stopping the Papuans from developing their own intelligence test based on their cultural experiences and common knowledge!
As you know, the scores are standardised, so you could easily conduct this test in Papua and have it reflect the situation there. Of course the test would have to be adjusted to be specific to them. This is a matter of translation. It would be pointless to try to compare Papuan results with Australian results but the whole point of it is to fit people into the bell curve as a predictor of what their academic performance might be. It's all relative.
Where it falls down is if you try to compare Papuans with Australians in the same test group. Of course the Papuans will generally score lower. But if you standardised the scores for Papuans and then compared them to the standardised scores for Australians, you might be getting somewhere.
This is probably why IQ ratings don't really mean much to anyone anymore. Except Mensa.
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Originally Posted by jmk89
And they were written in pigeon!:oo:
wot if we compared Qldrs to sydneysiders - predictions ???Quote:
Originally Posted by silentC
(I'll leave Vic outa the equation as we really don't wanna humilate the feeble sydney crowd)
Well, if the test was 20 years old, the QLDers would probably come out on top!
Should compare to the Kiwis then we will all get a good score. :spyme: