Environment problems

Hi Members

Every time we turn on the television or open a newspaper we hear about the issues relating to Green House Gas emissions etc. If you had the say in what could be done to improve the situation, what would you do???

Some things which come to mind are :

Fireworks
Burning Tyres / Rubber
Increased demand on electric supply with xmas lighting

There would be many areas which could be improved but it is unlikely that every one would agree, I have always been conservative with most matters but find a lot of hypocrisy attached to this particular subject.

Regards Mike:?:?:?

Ban heat pump air conditioners except in regions where evaporative are unsuitable. This would minimise electricity needs

Start seed tree planting in native forests with trees appropriate for the new climate, so as the old forests die, new ones are taking over.

Turn off all electrical equipment on display in stores/shopping centres having 25/50 TV's going dozens of sound systems etc for 12 hrs a day some 24/7 has to do more damage than turning on a TV and air conditioner at home for 6 hrs.

Yesterday I walked ok so I rolled into a store selling displaying christmas lights the heat given off was that of a room small heater.

Mike,

Complicated questions, no simple answers, my 2c

For the greenhouse problem; build renewable energy power plants. Particularly tidal and solar/steam. I'd also stop all logging in Indonesia and the Amazon basin. For the biodiversity problem stop all old growth logging and set aside some serious Nat Parks. For the population problem... well who's getting any anyway? For the social disruption caused by all of the above, become universal world dictator.

As to what the individual can do, drive less, turn appliances off, plant more trees and buy Australian, even if it more expensive.

Sebastiaan

I.ve brought this up before and not much concern in replies.

Aviation Fuel - Millions of litres are released into the air every day all over the world. Airlines load more fuel in case of problems or delays in flight. Before they land the plane the excess is dumped into the skies so as to minimise fire and explosion should the plane crash. The fuel is a form of kerosene. You can kill weeds and lawn by spraying with kerosene. You also breathe this in anf we have huge incidence of respitory diseases. The people who respond say that it is shot high in the atmosphere and doesn't create a problem. Great response from interested parties who do not want any problems with their business - travel, transport, airforce, etc.

Build nuclear powerstations, oh I forgot, everyone says not in my backyard but doesn't think big picture. :(( The same for desalination plants, not in my backyard the idiots also say but don't think big picture. Everyone is after me, me and me but not him, her and them down the track.

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Originally Posted by Linden Hardy

Aviation Fuel - Millions of litres are released into the air every day all over the world. Airlines load more fuel in case of problems or delays in flight. Before they land the plane the excess is dumped into the skies so as to minimise fire and explosion should the plane crash.

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Hi Linden, planes only dump fuel in the event of some kind of emergency, they do not do it as a matter of course.

Cancel Christmas !!!! All that present production and electricity for Christmas lights and extra cooking and all those trees used as wrapping paper and Fuel used visiting bloody rellies and all that damned energy sapping smiling crap.... BAH HUMBUGGERIT!

Great idea Chris!

I was going to send you a new mitre saw for Christmas too!

That's saved me a few bob!
:D:D:D

P

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Originally Posted by Linden Hardy

Aviation Fuel

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So we can make a start by getting 15.000 Delegates to Jet into Bali to work out how to solve the problem:wink:

The technicians need to work harder on traffic light technology. These dumb, stupid (but life saving) apparatuses needlessly hold traffic up well after the one or two cars that triggered them have dribbled through. All over the world there are vehicles waiting needlessly while the lights go backwards and forwards through their dumb switching programs. This contribution to greenhouse gasses and the swallowing of fossil fuels is a disgrace.

Now I feel better.

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Originally Posted by Rossluck

The technicians need to work harder on traffic light technology. These dumb, stupid (but life saving) apparatuses needlessly hold traffic up well after the one or two cars that triggered them have dribbled through. All over the world there are vehicles waiting needlessly while the lights go backwards and forwards through their dumb switching programs. This contribution to greenhouse gasses and the swallowing of fossil fuels is a disgrace.

Now I feel better.

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We could replace them with Work for the dole people with coloured torches :2tsup:

Hi Mike

I believe that humanity is really headed into strife and global warming is just one area.

The big one IMO is over population and the use of the planets resources. Sadly as a species we have historically shown that we are greedy and pretty stupid when it comes to our environment that nurtures us. This is not just a modern thing, look at the deforestation of easter island to move statues around and species extinction and habitat change that occurred by both indigenous australians and maori pre white settlement and of course the massive damage we have done since.

I have never been a greeny, used to like wrestling with them at protests :p :wink:, but just lately have began to question where were all going.

Where are we all going to fit, where is all the food and water going to come from to sustain everyone.

I am rambling here but the problem is so much bigger than most people are willing to accept and changing a few light bulbs or signing kyoto is going to do diddly, particularly when china and india are beginning to come alive with technology.

We consume at amazing rates because we are greedy. I live in a new house that has four bedrooms, a lounge dining, family room and a rumpus room and just today I was wondering if maybe we needed a study......what a greedy little fella, just to put more junk in :rolleyes:..see - stupid.

And what really riles me is our local car industry - "The all new ZZ Falcodore - now with an extra 8kw for 300kw of grunt" Yeah, like 292 wasnt enough :rolleyes:.

And its not like we are tripping over planets stocked with water.

cheers

Spot on Dazzler.

We actually can't do anything that will impact on the issue, but we are in the privileged position of being able to show how it's done if we really want to. We are wealthy enough to peel back a bit and set a real example.

Australia's total greenhouse gas production I understand, is equal to China's annual increase. That doesn't mean we should be stopping China unless we are prepared to take serious cuts, back to where they are now.

I heard today that in India, around 400 million people don't have electricity, so they are doing their bit! Seriously, are we to deny them power so we can go on driving our 292 kw stupid cars?

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Increase the cost of electricity, water and petrol. Make it hurt when people use too much. Work on the demand not the supply. Allow only 1 car per family.

Build nuclear power stations, turn off all electrical at night, stop improving living standard, ban all new re-chargeable gadgets ….