there is no hope for the young poeple

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Originally Posted by Frank&Earnest

What have you been smoking, Arty? :D

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what are you casting nutation's :smokeing::clown:

























:D

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Now lets take the mobile phones and Internet off the adult why were at it lets get rid of running water and power most people will not cope .

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I'm not suggesting we take anything away from anyone. We all should benefit from the modern world. Running water, now there is a very good example. You turn on the tap and out it comes. Where does it come from? Nobody cares until they turn on the tap and nothing happens. Put people in a situation where they have to conserve their water supply so they come to value it and we might not need so many dams.

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I'm not suggesting we take anything away from anyone. We all should benefit from the modern world. Running water, now there is a very good example. You turn on the tap and out it comes. Where does it come from? Nobody cares until they turn on the tap and nothing happens. Put people in a situation where they have to conserve their water supply so they come to value it and we might not need so many dams.

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so lets not be to quick to judge

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Originally Posted by SPIRIT

Hay Wood Borer your a teacher ? have you done the PD on generational poverty:?

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I don't quite understand:?

BTW I am not a teacher, it is not my profession by any means however I have taught in industry all over Australia and some other countries. I teach some courses locally particularly woodwork part time.

My time is mainly taken up with my woodwork (the shed is almost up and going).

My earlier point was that respect should not be demanded merely because you are old or have experienced something traumatic.

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Running water, now there is a very good example. You turn on the tap and out it comes. Where does it come from?

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The Romans. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Ruddigar

The Romans. :cool:

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Funny but profound, and not at all inconsistent with what Silent says: we are the final product of all that came before us, and sometimes the consequences are unintended and unpleasant, while still in a context of overall improvement.

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The Romans. :cool:

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yes yes they gave us plumbing but what else have they given us

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yes yes they gave us plumbing but what else have they given us

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Roman Candles, Roman numerals..................

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Originally Posted by SPIRIT

yes yes they gave us plumbing but what else have they given us

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The Romans gave us plumbing ? on what planet was that ?

Planet Earth - Bath

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Originally Posted by Big Shed

Planet Earth - Bath

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History is a marvelous thing ,

Study it .:p
Ignoring the first two racist crud websites that crop up on this list ,
check out the rest .

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I don't quite understand:?

BTW I am not a teacher, it is not my profession by any means however I have taught in industry all over Australia and some other countries. I teach some courses locally particularly woodwork part time.

My time is mainly taken up with my woodwork (the shed is almost up and going).

My earlier point was that respect should not be demanded merely because you are old or have experienced something traumatic.

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sorry got the wrong member :B
we seem to think the same on this matter

did anybody get the joke l did monkey boy

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Originally Posted by Manuka Jock

History is a marvelous thing ,

Study it .:p
Ignoring the first two racist crud websites that crop up on this list ,
check out the rest .

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I would respectfully suggest that you practise what you preach, MJ. Unfortunately, like with the mith of the two fingers at Agincourt and drawing this plumbing long bow :), you seem to be extremely dogmatic about the prayer book you decide to choose, however sound it might be. Your list includes not only racist crud but also whacko conspiracy theory type theories and plain marketing hype of plumbing sites.

According to your own sources, In Skara Brae the only "plumbing" to speak of were sinks or water tanks, made of stones sealed together with clay to prevent leaking. There were no actual conduits, unless you count gutter type trenches. The Minoan Palace of Crete had something more resembling a conduit made of clay and a hole where faeces could be collected and washed away, but for plumbing as we would recognise it you have to go forward to the Roman empire.

Sorry for feeding the hijack, folks.

PS. Just cottoned on the Roman Candles joke. Bit slow, but you did not put a :D after it, Big Shed...<!-- / message --><!-- DONKS ADDED -->

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I would respectfully suggest that you practise what you preach, MJ. Unfortunately, like with the mith of the two fingers at Agincourt and drawing this plumbing long bow :), you seem to be extremely dogmatic about the prayer book you decide to choose, however sound it might be. Your list includes not only racist crud but also whacko conspiracy theory type theories and plain marketing hype of plumbing sites.

According to your own sources, In Skara Brae the only "plumbing" to speak of were sinks or water tanks, made of stones sealed together with clay to prevent leaking. There were no actual conduits, unless you count gutter type trenches. The Minoan Palace of Crete had something more resembling a conduit made of clay and a hole where faeces could be collected and washed away, but for plumbing as we would recognise it you have to go forward to the Roman empire.
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So in your wee world , plumbing is only plumbing if it has lead huh ?
Roman lead .
A water retention and drainage system is not plumbing ?
The fact that the infeed piping has not survived the intervening 5000 years does not not mean that it did not exist .




If you must introduce your pettiness from that other thread , do us all the honour of backing up your 'fantasy history' on that thread , with a link or two to a credible source , on that thread .