no anzac day holliday

Public holidays are a bit of non-event for a lot of people. Like a lot of people I have a job to do - over the cycle of of a year none of my work disappears just because there is an extra public holiday. A few years back we traded 3 public holidays during the year in exchange for an extra weeks annual holiday. This was also a bit of a joke. Nobody suggested there would be any less work to do, same jobs (no, wait - there have been more jobs since then) same deadlines (no, wait - some deadlines were shortened).

Yeah I guess it depends on your circumstances. When I was a 7 day shift worker, all a public holiday meant was that if you were lucky enough to be rostered on, you got double time plus an accrued day in lieu (you've got to love unions). During that time I worked on just about every public holiday including Christmas day and New years day. I remember watching the veterans walking down to George street from Museum station one year from the 7th floor at L&C streets.

Since I've been a Monday to Friday worker, I've been able to have every public holiday off, except maybe once or twice. That's since 1991, so not bad. Generally speaking, there's nothing I'm working on today that can't wait until tomorrow. I can't be the only one in that situation.

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Originally Posted by BobL

Public holidays are a bit of non-event for a lot of people.

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... but certainly not most people.

I can understand that employers, the self employed and shift workers probably see public holidays as either a non-event, or as a financial burden. But certainly these people are what they are by choice and as such should be well aware of what they have got themselves in for.

If an employer doesn't like it ... sell up and retire. If the self employed don't like it ... work for someone else. If the shift workers don't like it ... get a non-shift work job.

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Originally Posted by silentC

That is exactly it

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a sense of withdrawn entitlement because this year Saturday is the gazetted holiday?

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and I thought I expressed that on page one of this thread: "The boss is getting an extra day for free out of me this year."

I consider [public holidays] a right. They are engraved in legislation - my employer must give me the day off with full pay if they fall on a day I would normally work. Thus they are factored into my salary just like all other forms of leave.

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whilst I generally agree with you, for me ANZAC day is different (special if you like) — as I said earlier it's Australia's one true national day

It should be celebrated on the actual day not the nearest convient Monday

for the rest, if believe that there is some evidence that countries with about 10 public holidays spread throughout the year are more productive than countries with no public holidays or where the public holidays are concentrated at particular times of the year — an example of the latter was Golden Week in Japan where 3 public holidays used to fall in the same week



ian

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Originally Posted by ian

It should be celebrated on the actual day not the nearest convient Monday

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But even by your own admission it isn't appropriate for ANZAC day to be held on a Sunday, because of church goers.
Now the majority of Australians DON'T go to church on Sundays (or at all), so why should we pander to a minority?
I don't think we should, but on the other hand I would bet (and this poll's results tend to back me up) that the majority of Australians do want the public holiday on a "working day". Lets go for what the majority want rather than pandering to a minority.:2tsup:

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Originally Posted by silentC

You reckon they don't factor public holidays in to pay rates like they do with every other type of leave? Salary = Daily rate * (365 - weekends - public holidays - annual leave - sick leave). I'm the one who is being ripped off!

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Thats the price of private enterprise.

I'm not sure what you mean by that, but in case you've misunderstood me, what I'm saying is that when an annual salary like mine is determined, leave is factored in to it. All things being equal, my employer would hope to cover my salary + expenses + profit from the work I do. If we have one less public holiday in a year, he gets an extra day for free. It's in his favour, not mine. Last year was a leap year, so that's two years in a row now. :)

I really dont care if we have a holiday or not. I like the fact that we are able to celebrate and remember the reasons for and against a conflict.

What gives me the irits is that some states give the "extra" days holiday iof Anzac day falls on the weekend and QLD does not.

What I want is uniform holiday rules just like we are supposed to have uniform road rule etc etc.

I am SO glad that I don't employ anybody any more. :2tsup:[/quote]

Cliff,

Its not so much a problem employing people......it's a problem employing knuckle heads. As is always the way, those who have the least to say always say the most. As is evidenced on this thread.

Kick back and enjoy not employing knukle heads!!!

Cheers,

Anthony

wow...

what i thik should happen on anzac day is no trading.

like it used to be.

small corner stores could open untill 10 am so people could get there paper. but other than that nothing was open.

pubs should be shut but clubs open (rsl obviously).

no sport except two up.:2tsup:

Strewth! Imagine having to employ something like Silent!!!!

( Lets see how long this post lasts!)

Maybe there's a reason you work for yourself, eh Doorstop? :D

Up yours too Anthony.

My last 2 employees were pretty good actually but it took me 10 years to find them.

I couldn't ever employ Mr. C, he argues too bloody much. :D

And here I thought that this forum was one of harmony and understanding and not like other forums I have been on.

Can I ask all people to stop being "personal". Just stick to the topic and deal with the topic with personally insulting other people.

Please!

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he argues too bloody much

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Only on here, Cliffy. I'm a good boy in the real world :)