Hey Clinton,
Sorry if my post seemed liked it was aimed at you. I actually read all your posts and thought that it was fine, reasonable and simply an observation. However, there were some other posts that were simply saying - "YEAH".
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the whingers did come from uni. but that doesn't mean that it is exclusively that way, nor does it mean that you can be cruel/callous about it (and again, you weren't the problem).
As for your last post - I reckon we are now getting closer to the problem (other than the engineers being the problem! :p )
Too right. That, or your girlfriend or family or whatever... I feel really sorry for people who need to go outside this group for support. It either means there is something wrong with the group of people who are closest to them, that group doesn't exist or there is some MASSIVE problem (like the ones you mentioned earlier). However, some people choose to go outside the group as the first option, which is both silly and sad to me.Quote:
The best form of counselling is simply blowing off steam with mates, IMO.
As for your comment on teamwork, I reckon that the reason that it is often weak is that it is "taught" not learned. Young people do teamwork exercises from very young these days, but they are all artificial...:(
I think that this is probably EXACTLY the problem. At uni, you develop ties with the people you are around and they can become your dominating social network. Thus, when they go to work, they may carry this same thing forward. Thus, when someone you feel is one of your closest friends obviously doesn't think the same about you, well that could be pretty hurtful. Maybe you can blame homework for that. You go home from uni and have to do more work rather than relax with your mates. That being said - it is sensible to MAKE time for your mates. Also, I know some slackers at uni. don't work all that hard - but don't get me started on that. :rolleyes: However, I suppose the problem still comes down to the fact that some people aren't willing to take responsibility - which is pretty weak.Quote:
A lot of the whingers have social lives, but not too many meaningful relationships. Thats one of the reasons that they focus so much on their work relationships... and the things that happen at work, that I wouldn't think twice about, cut them to the bone.
Finally, the comment about being an individual and choosing to behave like XXX is something that I have seen altogether too much. Some of my friends are like this e.g. I listen to independent music because I don't like the stuff turned out by the established companies, thus I rebel, like all of these people...:rolleyes:
A bit silly, but I guess that is what growing up and finding out about yourself is all about. I am sure that every generation has the same comments aimed at them as they experiment (usually as a group). Still, I reckon it is pretty to to conform to a unconfromist attitude.
Cheers
Cam
ps I can sure prattle on...
