Screws or nails for deck?

Hi Ben

Macsim have an office in melbourne give them a call and ask for suppliers
heres a few of yellowpages but we are sydney based

Fastening Specialists - Commercial Industrial & Farming Advice & Range
3 Ebden St Moorabbin VIC 3189
ph: (03) 9555 1922
email
website
map & directions

<LI class=gold id=flag_2><LI class=gold>Boltmasters Pty Ltd
http://www.yellowpages.com.au/images/ico_f2.gif A Major Source Of Bolts, Nuts, Screws & Fasteners - Australia Wide
1/ 6 Barrie Rd Tullamarine VIC 3043
ph: (03) 9338 2066

• email
• website
• map & directions

<LI class=gold>Rageem Fastener Co Pty Ltd <LI class=gold>Specialised Engineered Fasteners.
(Rear) 407 Princes Hwy Rockdale NSW 2216
ph: (02) 9599 3132 Business services Greater Melbourne VIC but may not be located in the area
<LI class=gold>email
<LI class=gold>website
<LI class=gold>map & directions

<LI class=gold><LI class=gold>Coventry Fasteners
Australia's Fastener Specialists
72 William Angliss Drv Laverton VIC 3028
ph: (03) 9368 7900

• email
• website
• map & directions

<LI class=gold>Blackwoods
13 Cooper St Smithfield NSW 2164
ph: 13 7323 Business services Greater Melbourne VIC but may not be located in the area

• website
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<LI class=gold id=flag_3>Acument Australia Pty Ltd
http://www.yellowpages.com.au/images/ico_f3.gif Avdel & Cherry Brand Fasteners Performance & Reliability.
891 Wellington Rd, Rowville VIC 3178
ph: 1800 062 355

• website
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<LI class=silver id=flag_4>Ideal Fasteners
http://www.yellowpages.com.au/images/ico_f4.gif 10- 12 Ausco Pl Dandenong South VIC 3164
ph: (03) 9799 9744

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<LI class=silver id=flag_5>ITW Fastex General Products
http://www.yellowpages.com.au/images/ico_f5_h.gif 2 - 4 Eskay Rd Oakleigh South VIC 3167
ph: (03) 9570 2566

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Cheers Utemad

www.dialadeck.com.au

Great info on this thread. I'm replacing decking boards on a 60sq m and will have to replace most of (make that all) the joists. After reading all the info from utemad and others I will definitely screw it down. I was going to use hardwood joists but would it be better and easier to use treated pine to avoid screw breaks. How far below the surface should the screws be set ? I'm using 86x19 tallowwood on a very exposed site. Has anyone used the 90x70 laminated treated pine for joists? also whats the best gun to buy?

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Originally Posted by bookwa

Great info on this thread. I'm replacing decking boards on a 60sq m and will have to replace most of (make that all) the joists. After reading all the info from utemad and others I will definitely screw it down. I was going to use hardwood joists but would it be better and easier to use treated pine to avoid screw breaks. How far below the surface should the screws be set ? I'm using 86x19 tallowwood on a very exposed site. Has anyone used the 90x70 laminated treated pine for joists? also whats the best gun to buy?

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Hi Brookwa

I have beeen missing in action for a while.. Haven't checked forum form a month or more.... 90x70 lam pine for joists??? Why 140 x 45 pine will go further for less unless you have a height isssue... Even still you can cut them over the bearers 40mm if your trying to get hardwood size (4x2)
Don't use hardwood its so much easier to screx to t.pine and standard sawn 4x2 and 4x3 isn't real crash hot for radius winds and twists...Also sizes differ up to 10mm which means packing or checking all joists


Which Gun????? For what job ..... If you mean to fix the boards down then its a Duofast coil gun with adjustable depth head .... I own one but would not want to use it for this unless you are that chewed down on costing of the job... The boards will eventually split around the nails and nails will come up... Duofast (paslode) offers no support on their nails for any application so its all on you....

Depth set screws flush to 1mm below the surface any lower and they just trap water and dirt...

If you need further info PM but include email address

cheers Utemad

Thanks for that Utemad. Reason for asking about 90x70 is that there is a height problem and some of the bearer spacings are a bit overlong. Thought maybe 90x70 would be a compromise but will take on board your "cut in 40mm over bearers" . Sorry about wrong terminology re "gun" I meant impact driver. I've got a couple of 14v Makitas -clutched but not impact . Would they be up to it? Whats the best way of setting the depth on the drill/countersink.
Many thanks--appreciate your assistance
Bookwa

Firstly appologies for hijacking a thread....
I understand that SS screws are the optimal choice for fastening hardwood decking....
but other options....
gal?
zinc?

Are these viable options (obviously not as asthetically pleasing, but pleasing to a hip pocket, when working to a tight budget..)

I'm looking to use Type 17 10g 50mm for 90x19 merbau into T/P 90x45 joists.

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Originally Posted by clackerz

I understand that SS screws are the optimal choice for fastening hardwood decking....
but other options....
gal?
zinc?

Are these viable options (obviously not as asthetically pleasing, but pleasing to a hip pocket, when working to a tight budget..)

I'm looking to use Type 17 10g 50mm for 90x19 merbau into T/P 90x45 joists.

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Hot-dipped gal is viable. Pre-drill the merbau, of course.

If anyone else is looking I found these on ebay

10g x 50mm STAINLESS STEEL DECKING SCREWS

TYPE 17 POINT WITH A COUNTERSUNK SELF EMBEDDING HEAD

SQUARE DRIVE

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SQUARE DRIVE BIT WITH EVERY PURCHASE

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