Forum update - comments here please

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Originally Posted by Groggy

Very soon (no specific timing available) there will be some significant updates done to the forums. Please put any comments of issues in this thread. Any placed anywhere else will be moved without notice.

Details of the updates will not be given beforehand (I don't have them :wink: ), but there should be some things in Uncle Neil's bag for most of us. :)

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I think a serious bug has been introduced. I just tried several times to post a reply to a thread.

Each time, my post was rejected with an error message as follows: "The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 1 characters." The text I had entered was cleared (Grrr!) After typing it all again, the same happened no matter how long it was.

The only way I was able to make that post and this one was to use the "Quote" button. Even then only the quoted text showed in the new post and my text was lost. However I then edited the post and was able to reinstate my text.

regards
Coldamus

Joe - Go to the bottom of the page, just below the Google search thing and click on the Firefox button. You can download the latest version for free and it will hopefully fix this problem and a few more.

Same goes for anyone else running a browsers that hasn't been updated for a few years. This could fix all your problems, and if nothing else, will at least make your web browsing a faster, better experience.

If you don't want to do it through this forum because you're worried we might make a few cents off you, then don't. Go Google Firefox and download it from somewhere else, it really doesn't bother me. But whatever you do; do yourself a big favor and go get it, I doubt you'll ever be disappointed.

Cheers - Neil

Coldamus and Anyone Else with a problem:

Please help us to help you. We're not mind readers. To help you and probably others we need to know a couple of bits of important information. Like:

What browser you are using and the version number?

eg: EI3 IE5,6 or 7 Firefox, Opera v3, 5, 9? etc

What operating system?

eg: windows 98, xp, 2000, Vista. Mac OS, Linux etc. etc

What exactly is the problem?

Joes description and the one above by Coldamus are good and give us some idea of the problem bu just need that little extra so we can hopefully deal with it and let others in the same boat know what to look out for.

If you can get a screen shot or 2 even better, but the basics above are pretty much essential for any changes to take place.

As everything runs faster and gets better on the www it stands to reason that out of date and in some cases obsolete programs and browsers will begin to fail. To do what has been done and is still being done by way of updates here we have also had to update servers with the latest php codes and other scary stuff. So it stands to reason the older the program is at your end the easier it is that there may be a problem.

It's no big deal. Most of the problems if at your end can be fixed by downloading and installing the latest browser or updating your Operating System. Most will cost you nothing but a little time.

Cheers - Neil :)

PS it is also possible that some of the problems could be stemming from the fact that we've been working furiously in the back room over the past 3 days, still are and probably will be for another day or so.

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Originally Posted by ubeaut

What browser you are using and the version number?

eg: EI3 IE5,6 or 7 Firefox, Opera v3, 5, 9? etc

What operating system?

eg: windows 98, xp, 2000, Vista. Mac OS, Linux etc. etc

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I am on Windows 98 with IE5.5 SP1 and there's a good reason why I can't upgrade this particular machine. I will try from my other machine in a moment. It is on Windows 2000.

I don't really know what is happening but it seems to me that the forum software is clearing the edit box before trying to post the text in it. It then complains that there is no text to post. It should be posting first and then clearing.

Also, when I first tried to make this post, I used the quote button to reply to Neil's post. I then cropped some of the quoted text to reduce the total size of the post. However when I submitted the post, the whole quoted message was included (but not my comments).

I then edited it to what you see here. So editing works Ok for me but not replying to a post or submitting a new post.

OK. I am now logged in from my second computer. It is on Windows 2000 with IE6.0 SP1.

Edit: Yes, it all seems to work Ok from this machine.

Well, my problem is back. :rolleyes:

DJ's latest post in his "Finally got a start on shed site" thread looks like Pic 1 to me.

Following a link brings up the logon screen. (Pic 2)

Logging in opens the full-size pic in a new window and after closing the pic window and doing a refresh on the original post it now looks like Pic 3... and stays that way for the rest of the session.

It only does this on pix which are embedded in the body text. The "normal" thumbnails at the bottom of the screen work perfectly 100% of the time.

FWIW: Win2K, Firefox 2.0.0.6 and I always tick "remember me" when logging in. Both initially and for these "in-thread" logins>

Hey Skew, go back to my thread and have a look at my reply to Big Shed

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Originally Posted by djstimber

Hey Skew, go back to my thread and have a look at my reply to Big Shed

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You could be right, DJ - I'm having problems viewing any posts including my own which have used the paperclip icon to move the pix.

I'm logged in to www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au and your pix are www.woodworkforums.com

Now I'm pretty sure I ain't loggin' in on one domain to post and another domain to read... but if the forum SW is renaming the domain when it moves the link...? I'd go check the links to my own pix (the ones' I had trouble with earlier) but Neil had a play with 'em after I first reported the problem, so he may've changed all that.

regarding my avatar unlike others who move etc mine doesn't in his forum I use it elsewhere and it does.

It peddles the bike normaly

Neil,

"Blogs" in the menu bar only appears using the "BASIC" skin.

Strange?

P
:)

Midge, thanks, they are aware of this and will get to it once the bigger alligators are under control.

Not really sure whether this is related to the forum updates, but when I checked one of DJs threads with embedded thumbnails, I was asked to log in, even though I was logged in! (if you can follow that?)

Anyway, in his reply DJ asked whether I was logged in to woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au or woodworkforums.com. So I checked and I was checked in to the ubeaut address.

My question is why 2 http addresses for the one forum? Just to confuse us mere mortals?
It certainly appears to cause some picture link problems.

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Originally Posted by bitingmidge

Neil,

"Blogs" in the menu bar only appears using the "BASIC" skin.

Strange?

P
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That is strange as I am using the Ubeaut Skin with IE7 Win XP SP2 logged into www.woodworkforums.com and I can log into the Blogs without any problems. I don't know if that helps.

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Originally Posted by Barry_White

That is strange as I am using the Ubeaut Skin with IE7 Win XP SP2 logged into www.woodworkforums.com and I can log into the Blogs without any problems. I don't know if that helps.

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Barry, can you see "Blogs" in the menu bar? It is possible to get there in any skin but only one has the menu bar option at this stage.

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Originally Posted by Groggy

Barry, can you see "Blogs" in the menu bar? It is possible to get there in any skin but only one has the menu bar option at this stage.

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Sorry Groggy I misunderstood I thought you meant the Menu in the User CP not the main menu bar but as others have said I can see it in the Basic Skin.

HOPEFULLY I have fixed all the problems with nav bar, paperclip, etc Projects and Blogs should be visible on the bar in all skins now.

Did a few tests with paperclip and they all worked fine. Those mentioned have also reverted to the way they should have been.

Don't ya just love upgrades. And it's not over yet either. Server had a major upgrade oto the latest php code today and Steven is waiting to see it it all falls over before we continue the upgrades here.

Now back to the youtube problem in the other thread. :C

Cheers - Neil

Well, no question I've been derelict about upgrading my software. OS (W2K-P) got hosed a while back, and I re-installed from the CD. Unfortunately, the CD was about 6 months older than the version Dell installed before shipping the golem. I delayed upgrading from Redmond because of estimated 3 or 4 days connect time needed - interactive dial-up to boot. My brother had downloaded via DSL, and put the whole works on a CD for his ex; sent me a copy. Still expected 2-6 hours interactive, and need to backup. Still pending, alas, but not for long. The 2-6 hours is probably less than the time I've already wasted. (including elsewhere mostly)

I'm not surprised to get "issues" now (other problems with formatting replies, but not the same as Coldamus), but the only one that really throws me is the one about logging in to view pictures. Sawmill Creek has a similar "feature;" also uses VBulletin. Is it possible that "feature" was implemented with the upgrade? Either accidentally or deliberately? Previously, WWF pictures were viewable without registration. In fact, I've cited WWF links in e-mails to non-members.

I tried viewing without logging in, and got the error message. Lurking before I joined didn't work that way. I'll see how it works on a mate's (non-member) new machine in a bit.

Joe

Hi Joe - You're right the pics have been turned off for non registered members some are available but most aren't. We have had major problems with people coming on and downloading everything in sight to the detriment of the forums speed and usability.

We are not the only ones to do this as you say more over we were actually the exception to the rule rather then the norm. But have now joined the ranks of those who want the big forums to run quicker and smoother.

We have had as many as 400 people in a 1 minute period trying to all down load pictures at the same time and it absolutely kills the speed of the forums for everyone.

http://www.ubeaut.com.au/osagebowl3.jpg

http://www.ubeaut.com.au/POLOGO1.jpg
http://www.ubeaut.com.au/R5a.jpg

Embedded pics like these will still be available to anyone but those which are uploaded froma personal computer will not. It is possible that we may open the pics up for all again later on down the track when the bandwidth is a lot bigger and the server a lot faster but the way we're growing I don't know

Cheers - Neil :U

Thanks for the explanation, Neil. Perils of becoming too good, I guess. Working from Windows Vista, so I'll see how the formatting situation is too. Bold? Underline? Smilies? :D:wink::cool:

Looks good to me.

Joe

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Originally Posted by ubeaut

Coldamus and Anyone Else with a problem:

Please help us to help you. We're not mind readers. To help you and probably others we need to know a couple of bits of important information. Like:




What browser you are using and the version number?

Windows Explorer ver 6.0 SP1

What operating system?

Windows 2000 SP4 on Pentium 4 2.0g

What exactly is the problem?

Haven't had any real problems but will report them if I do.

PS it is also possible that some of the problems could be stemming from the fact that we've been working furiously in the back room over the past 3 days, still are and probably will be for another day or so.

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Don't spend too much time in the back room without comeing out for some air or a?e.

:cheers:

Don

What about a feed to iGoogle for updated subscribed threads or am I too late?

HH.

Geeze, a 7 hour outage, there must have been some heavy work going on.

Scooter missed his shift and no-one was here to peddle............. :bike3:

Good one. :D

:lolabove: :zing: :rotfl:

I am having problems. when I look at some of the posts with thumbnail pics at the bottom, I don't see the pictures, I just see the link to it. I see the picture when I click on the link but when I go back to the post, I don't see the thumbnails, just the link.
This also happened when I uploaded a picture to a post just now, I dont see my picture in the post, just the link to click on to bring the picture up.
I also had problems uploading the pictures, I wanted to upload 2 pictures but I could only upload the one picture. the second picture I chose didn't upload.

I will check to see if I there is a later version of Firefox than the one I am using and if there is, will download it to see if that makes any difference.

Just checked and I am using the latest version of Firefox.
Same problem when I use Internet Explorer

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Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!

Well, my problem is back. :rolleyes:

DJ's latest post in his "Finally got a start on shed site" thread looks like Pic 1 to me.

Following a link brings up the logon screen. (Pic 2)

Logging in opens the full-size pic in a new window and after closing the pic window and doing a refresh on the original post it now looks like Pic 3... and stays that way for the rest of the session.

It only does this on pix which are embedded in the body text. The "normal" thumbnails at the bottom of the screen work perfectly 100% of the time.

FWIW: Win2K, Firefox 2.0.0.6 and I always tick "remember me" when logging in. Both initially and for these "in-thread" logins>

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This prob has popped it head up with this thread as well, can see the thumbnails fine here, but when I was linked to it via this thread which got me this thread all I can see is a written link which then asks me to log in if I click on it.

Does this mean we need to be signed in to both url's to overcome this prob or :shrug:

Using the latest Firefox browser as I only downloaded it last night and Windows Vista.

Would post a screen shot of each one but don't know how to do it :shrug: :C

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Originally Posted by djstimber

Would post a screen shot of each one but don't know how to do it :shrug: :C

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press print screen on your key board

or

hold down alt and press print screen - this will take a pic of the active window.

then go into paint and press ctrl v or right click and paste.

then save it as a jpg cos bitmaps take up alot of memory

cheers

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Originally Posted by djstimber

This prob has popped it head up with this thread as well, can see the thumbnails fine here, but when I was linked to it via this thread which got me this thread all I can see is a written link which then asks me to log in if I click on it.

Does this mean we need to be signed in to both url's to overcome this prob or :shrug:

Using the latest Firefox browser as I only downloaded it last night and Windows Vista.

Would post a screen shot of each one but don't know how to do it :shrug: :C

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Yep, I got the same. Firefox (latest) on Win XP Pro, signed in to woodworkforums.com

This is what I see. this is a picture I posted earlier today.

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Originally Posted by munruben

This is what I see. this is a picture I posted earlier today.

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1250 and I am having same problem as John now

Is there a way to add date & time stamp to posts:?

Well figure this one or am I crazy. This has happened to me a few times over the last 2 days. "Open Slather" and" What a load of drivel" have been missing at times from the main menu in the forum. Have a look at pic 1 and pic 2 and see what I mean. has this been done deliberately or has the whole thing gone crazy? Pictures are not very clear cos its a screen capture but you will see what I am on about. Can someone enlighten us as to whats going on?:(

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Originally Posted by wheelinround

..Is there a way to add date & time stamp to posts:?

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That happens automatically, look above your name in the left column.

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Originally Posted by wheelinround

1250 and I am having same problem as John now

Is there a way to add date & time stamp to posts:?

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It's already done automatically. top of each post, left side. above your name oops Cliff already answered that.

Is there an echo in here? :D

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Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers

That happens automatically, look above your name in the left column.

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:doh::doh: honestly I had never noticed it looked everywhere

Thanks Cliff

ps just worked out why i couldn't see it its where the glare spot is on my screen

This is so crazy, I just went back to the main forum index page and sure enough, "Open Slather" and "What a load of drivel" are not there again.. If this is updating, just put it back the way it was. much better the old way. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by munruben

This is so crazy, I just went back to the main forum index page and sure enough, "Open Slather" and "What a load of drivel" are not there again.. If this is updating, just put it back the way it was. much better the old way. :rolleyes:

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Nope just looed edited" (Opps meant looked) not there GONE:oo::o not that I have used them

Maybe they are being transffered to that other forum where men are men ...maybe

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Originally Posted by munruben

I am having problems. when I look at some of the posts with thumbnail pics at the bottom, I don't see the pictures, I just see the link to it. I see the picture when I click on the link but when I go back to the post, I don't see the thumbnails, just the link.
This also happened when I uploaded a picture to a post just now, I dont see my picture in the post, just the link to click on to bring the picture up.

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I just noticed this too. And the link has a very long ID (5-digit number & 10-digit number) whereas thumbnails only have a 5-digit ID.

Also, the heading is "Attached Images" instead of "Attached Thumbnails."

Joe