If one had a high IQ, one would hardly waste one's time responding to this thread methinks.
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If one had a high IQ, one would hardly waste one's time responding to this thread methinks.
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Bugger!Quote:
Originally Posted by bitingmidge
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correct and as such i will not.Quote:
Originally Posted by bitingmidge
I have a high IQ because I don't read the Financial Times:oo:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wongo
What about the rest of the State???? :?Quote:
Originally Posted by echnidna
What if we compared somebody from Whoop Whoop to somebody from the big smoke?
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/p...stein-bio.html
had an high IQ so much so he worked out the best way to get woman was con the USA to give them to him.................today he'd be surfing the nets XXX links
http://www.mos.org/leonardo/ Leonardo well with all the hype about a code and over a painting created some hundreds of years after Christ and the last supper ..........all for a Chalace/Cup/Goblet which possibly was made from wood by a wood turner which has it's own legends.
The wood turner knew it had to last a few thousand years shows they haveto have high IQ's
Dunno, how much you gunna pay for it? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers
Nail on head...:2tsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry_White
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Yep , you got the right idea , ya cheeky bugga . DUCK :UQuote:
Originally Posted by Wongo
The funny thing about IQ tests, and something that isn't often discussed, is that there are several different brands, with similarly different scales. So someone might peak out at 115 on one scale, and someone from another scale might have an IQ of 160 or something. This in itself makes them a relatively useless mode of measurement.
I also resent the insinuation that we Queenslanders are backward. If I knew Silent's local PMG office I'd send a telegraph of complaint.:((
Olsem wanem, wantok?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleedin Thumb
yeah why not?
However measured, real intelligence usually correlates with curiosity and inquisitiveness, thus enhances ability to learn. But if the desire to learn is completely satisfied by the academic experience, stupidity in everything else is sure to follow, especially in those topics that are "beneath" them. [Some haven't been blessed with humble origins, and aren't even aware of the common sense nature of things; and some who have too often reject that knowledge base.
Ideally, advanced learning would include an awareness that the new knowledge is only the tip of the iceberg; as I like to say, "The more you learn, the less you know."
For the rest of us, it probably just boils down to limited resources, especially time available after meeting our responsibilities. Applies to our teachers and mentors too, of course, and the wisdom I suggested above doesn't come through.
The only explanation I can think of for Harry's metallurgist, is that all his knowledge crowded out the more practical. Sometimes too, we get so focussed on the immediate mission we forget such things.
Just my 2 cents worth.]
Joe
The son of a friend of ours was 'diagnosed' as a gifted child in early school. He was put on special education programmes to keep the fuel up to the fire and he had a great interest in various sciences etc. from an early age.
One day at school assembly, he was to be given an award for academic achievement. The principal gave a short speech and then invited him to come up to the podium to receive his award. He didn't move, just stood there looking confused. One of the teachers went over to him and said "why don't you go up and receive your award". He replied: "I can't move, I've tied my shoelaces together and can't get them undone."
True story.
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Hmmmm makes you think. :roll:
What about this 7 year old kid in Hong Kong in the early 80s. He was also 'diagnosed' as a gifted child. He could do additions and subtractions faster then someone who used a calculator. He was on TV all the time. (Poor little thing)
10 years later, he struggled to pass his (real) maths exams and other subjects.
True story.
Bastard!!! I just spent 20 minutes to do a “free” online IQ test but they wanted $6 for the result.:~
I am pretty sure I got all the questions right though.:cool:
Send me $5 and I will tell you your IQ. :wink:
People who actually work with IQ measurements know the different tests and know you have to compare apples with apples. If it's done properly, the scores are standardised based on a population sample taken from the subject area. So it's not enough to just say "my IQ is 160", you also need to know the test used and the standard deviation of the sample.Quote:
The funny thing about IQ tests, and something that isn't often discussed, is that there are several different brands, with similarly different scales. So someone might peak out at 115 on one scale, and someone from another scale might have an IQ of 160 or something. This in itself makes them a relatively useless mode of measurement.
So you can look really smart if you do your test in an area full of dumb people.
That's why I chose to do mine with a group of TV journalists.
I chose to do mine with a bunch of Ozzie WWers. :D :rolleyes: :D Don't flame me, Silent, it's late and I'm going to bed.Quote:
Originally Posted by silentC
Oh, that explains your score. I always expected you to come out smarter than that! :DQuote:
I chose to do mine with a bunch of Ozzie WWers.
you could be the worlds smartest pygmy but only score 20 IQ points if your test was based upon a non standard measure - lets say Computer literacy or western history... and vice versa of course.
I once scored 153 in an IQ test but the q's were all cognitive ones or "trick questions" that supplied a dumb ass obvious answer and the real one....and also very few mathematical q's.. had it been the opposite i'd a been a dubbo im sure....
who cares anyway ? we just apes who stopped walking on our knuckles and grew a frontal lobe in our brain, once society collapses IQ will be less important than the desire to eat, drink and find shelter... be happy is my suggestion... I know I am.. :2tsup: :D
There was a story in a magazine a while back about this type of thing. They did some experiments where they gave the same test and praised a group of children for being clever and another for working hard. They then made the next test much harder and praised them the same way again. (clever or hard worker). Back to the original test now and those praised as being clever went backwards and the others improved. They then gave them another test where they could choose the difficulty of the question and the 'clever' kids chose an easy one whereas the 'good workers' chose a more difficult test generally. The smart kids didn't want to get it wrong and lose face, whereas the hard working ones liked the challenge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wongo
They then theorised that praising kids for something that they had control of (ie the effort) proved to be more beneficial than praising something the kids had no control over.
It was something like that anyway:-
So what was it like to be on TV??:U:UQuote:
Originally Posted by Wongo
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hang on while I paste that into excel
That's not maths, it's arithmetic.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Wongo
Well said!Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexS
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But can you prove there are an infinite number of primes?
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Originally Posted by masher
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Originally Posted by masher
Is one of them optimus?
The test results themselves are fictitiuos, even after allowing for cultural differences. They test both the knowledge and the ability to take tests.
The hard way: Get stuck on one of the first few questions, stay stuck for much of the duration, and get a low score.
The easy way: Scan the test for the gifts and easily enter the correct answer; scan again and do the next harder; save the real stumpers until last; and get a high score.
Joe
That might be difficult if you are doing the full test, which includes verbal questions. You can say 'pass' but I bet they don't let you come back and have another go at it...Quote:
The easy way: Scan the test for the gifts and easily enter the correct answer; scan again and do the next harder; save the real stumpers until last; and get a high score.
I did a similar test (not for IQ) a few years ago. It was done in a room under supervision. The test was handed out in sections. There were a few questions that I suppose you could have studied for, but many of them were the type of question that you either get or don't get.
I think most people who do an IQ test would probably have done one of those magazine type questionnaires where you sit down and answer all the questions and then total up a score. A proper IQ test is done under supervision and then analysed by a trained psychologist.
That’s right.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe greiner
Questions like “Which one of these is least like the four? Horse, kangaroo, goat, deer or donkey“ are a bit unfair.
How am I supposed to know if I've never eaten a kangaroo before.
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Originally Posted by Gra
good call!
No, but I can prove there is not a finite number of primes.:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by masher
Anyway, back to the original question. I've worked both as a labourer, and I've taught a bit at university and I'm strongly of the opinion that the intellectual differences between people isn't that great. It's really all in the mind (sorry).
People who get their jollies from imagining that they are intellectually superior to most people are yanking at their own chains. It's more a matter of what turns you on, or what you're interested in. I have a firm belief that you could grab any council worker from a road works site and coax him or her through medical school and produce a medical doctor after 7 years. If they wanted to do it.
Similarly, as someone else alluded to above, IQ tests are only good for one thing: measuring how good people are at doing IQ tests. So the question should be: why are people with low IQs just plain smart?:wink:
BUT..... would you go to them as a patient?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossluck
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Originally Posted by AlexS
Were you in my class?
That's a bit like saying that a maths test is only good for measuring how good you are at doing maths tests. What else would it be measuring?Quote:
IQ tests are only good for one thing: measuring how good people are at doing IQ tests
I'm sorry, but I'm afraid that in my experience there actually is a very wide range in intellectual ability in the community. I have worked as a labourer and I have been to university. I think some of the labourers I worked with could have done much more with their lives, while others were in exactly the right job. I think some of the people I went to uni with were destined for great things and others would be better doing something more manual. It might not be PC to say it, but I think it's quite obvious that there are 'bright' people, 'average' people and 'not so bright' people. Whether or not IQ is any good at picking that up, I'll leave to the experts. They've been debating it for decades.
Go and read a bit about IQ, try Wikipedia for a starting point. Many, many studies have been done on the correlation between IQ (as tested) and school performance, job performance, income etc. I think it has been pretty well validated for some predictors. Others not so good perhaps.
Don't judge it on the on-line tests or the ones in Cleo. Go and get a proper professional test done and see how well you think you could fluff your way through to getting a high score. Have a stab at Mensa. Let us know how you get on. Top 3% I think.