Kitchen cabinet help??

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Originally Posted by arms

yes please do i for one will be awaiting the constructive comments that arise for this one

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Why would anyone now be tempted to, knowing you are ready to pounce on any opinion that isn't "purchasing a flatpack".

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Originally Posted by arms

"being ripped of by over rated and over priced kitchen makers"

it would seem that i have pinched a nerve here ,but if this is the case then why has none of you answered notsohandys question regarding the correct material ,i have only put forward a method that may fix his problem the rest of you have only put forward a case that using machinery of differing reliabilitys will produce the desired effect ,

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You are the one that started the entire argument by saying that only if you have a

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Originally Posted by arms

good quality panel saw and edgebander

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should you attempt this. I don't think you are in a position to suddenly try to take the moral high ground here. As the self-appointed expert, you have also had plenty of opportunity to answer Notsohandyman's question, but have chosen not to. At least some of us offered assistance before your insertion of inflammatory comments.

Boy oh boy! I haven't been on the board much lately but it's obvious that it hasn't changed. Still bitchy.:) :) ;)
Notsohandyman, don't be afraid to get stuck in to the job. There's no difference between the speaker cabinets and kitchen cabinets except size. Melamine is the stuff to use unless you want to use solid timber. Drawfronts and doors can be made out of 16mm MDF. I'm halfway through a kitchen rebuild myself. My outlay so far is less than $300 for the cabinets in the picture below. I will be getting the bench tops next week which is another $200. I settled for Polytech granite look laminate. I was going to get granite but when I went to a local kitchen place and pointed to the bench and asked how much the granite was he told me it was laminex.
The most expensive item is the hardware such as handles, hinges and drawslides.

I wouldn't worry about the tools you have. Melamine is a cow to work with but it really doesn't matter if you chip it when cutting. I used a GMC table saw and my old US made Black and Decker power saw and they did chip the melamine a bit. The melamine comes with a finished edge and thats the edge you will see. All the cut edges will be against the floor, wall and benchtop. Some Selleys Flexifill acrylic sealer on all the seams on the inside of the cabinet will hide any chips and it will give the cabinet a seamless look.
I'm doing my kitchen in stages. I ripped out the part containing the wall oven and cooktop and built and installed the new cabinets. I left the section containing the sink and I'm now planning the 2200mm x 1200 island. The good thing about doing it in stages is the fact that I still have a usable kitchen while the work is going on. I can now build and install the island without needing to demolish the rest of the kitchen until the new kichen is finished.
You are sensible to get plans first. I'm afraid I don't have the disclipine to work like that. I knew what I wanted it to look like but basically I've been making it up as I go along. I think the island is going to be a more complicated build because of all the plumbing and electrical work I have to build into it.
You should also consider installing draws in lieu of cupboards below countertop height because cupboards are a waste of space. I'm building a full extension draw with dowelled compartments to hold dinner plates upright because the set of plates I use for parties weighs 17kgs when stacked and it doesn't make sense to have them in a head height cupboard.
A word of warning about the melamine though. Those chipped edges get really sharp and if you have the girly, soft hands of an ex systems analyst like I do you will get a few cuts.

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Originally Posted by arms

then why has none of you answered notsohandys question regarding the correct material

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I did. It was the second post. ;)

[quote=renomart]I did. It was the second post.

then why is everyone attacking me ,if the answer has been given ,its funny that the only constructive replies to notsohandys question has been from kitchen suppliers ,so heres what i will do ,if notsohandy sends me a fax (07)546909378 with his plan i will supply him a the kitchen of his choice for cost price delivered to his house ,or perhaps you weekend warriors can offer notsohandy the same deal,it sounds like the warriors out there would love to show notsohandy how to use the triton and assorted gmc tools but then again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote=arms][quote=renomart]I did. It was the second post.

,if notsohandy sends me a fax (07)54609378 with his plan i will supply him a the kitchen of his choice for cost price delivered to his house ,


i apologise for the human indiscretion of getting my fax number wrong but i don,t send myself faxes often

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Originally Posted by arms

then why is everyone attacking me

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Maybe because of remarks like

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Originally Posted by arms

or perhaps you weekend warriors can offer notsohandy the same deal,it sounds like the warriors out there would love to show notsohandy how to use the triton and assorted gmc tools but then again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Nobody likes a smart a$$. Its the weekend warriors and hobbiests that make up the bulk of the forum, and with quotes like that you wonder why members have a dig at you:confused:

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Originally Posted by Lignum

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Nobody likes a smart a$$. Its the weekend warriors and hobbiests that make up the bulk of the forum, and with quotes like that you wonder why members have a dig at you:confused:

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i am not quite sure what you mean ,by your quote does that mean that you will show notsoahndy how to do the job or are you not capable of helping notsohandy with his problem

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Originally Posted by Lignum

Maybe because of remarks like




Nobody likes a smart a$$. Its the weekend warriors and hobbiests that make up the bulk of the forum, and with quotes like that you wonder why members have a dig at you:confused:

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my offer still stands

Whats the extrodinary skill involved to cut a flat panel and stick it together. In the wonderfull world of wood those who cut up panels are no where near as talented as those who hand make furniture, and alot of those do it entirely by hand with minimal of machines.

and i agree with you completly ,all i am saying is there are people out there that look at a project and think that it can,t be that hard to do ,but then when they are into it so far that they then realise that they are out of their depth they probably wished that someone had said to them "be afraid be verry verry afraid" because your no doubt living standards and relationship is riding on you knowledge or for that matter lack of experience/knowledger

Come on guys, give it a rest. There are people in Iraq who send their kid down to the corner store to get milk and end up childless. There's a little girl on the northern beaches of sydney who loses a body part to a passing motorist every time she steps outside her front door. If you want to get upset do it over something that means something.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Jeeeeezz!!!!!

I love this forum!:D

So informative...no not quite, how about so b!tchy.

So that makes me an informed b!tch!

I like it

If it was me with the kitchen i would not try to cut up sheets of melamine with i rip saw...mainly because i am scared of the buggers, those saws if they jam can become a weapon. So from my point of veiw a flat pack at cost price sounds great...can you deliver to Townsville!

I might be calling you in the future

readnik

Thanks everyone for your advice.
The Kitchen I'm building is based on an ultra modern design that I've drawn up at home. I went to my local timberyard and Bought 12 sheets of 16mm 1200 x 2400 Moisture resistant malemine. Used my trusty gmc circular saw with laser sight to cut the panels.
So far Ive made 3 cabinets and assembled them.
One cabinet was 2mm out of square across the top but other than that Its coming together great.

I'll post up some pics once its all finished..

Thanks again everyone..

Well then, it's good to see that you are going to have a shot at it.

If anything goes wrong, just post a question here. Who knows, you just might get another 4 pages of replies! :p

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Originally Posted by Notsohandyman

Thanks everyone for your advice.
The Kitchen I'm building is based on an ultra modern design that I've drawn up at home. I went to my local timberyard and Bought 12 sheets of 16mm 1200 x 2400 Moisture resistant malemine. Used my trusty gmc circular saw with laser sight to cut the panels.
So far Ive made 3 cabinets and assembled them.
One cabinet was 2mm out of square across the top but other than that Its coming together great.

I'll post up some pics once its all finished..

Thanks again everyone..

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Sounds like you are doing a great job, and with a hand-held GMC saw at that. :D

wow... first https://www.ubeaut.biz/gonnagetit.gif....then https://www.ubeaut.biz/banghead.gif... and then https://www.ubeaut.biz/wanker.gif ..and still https://www.ubeaut.biz/argue.gif....but, now all seems to be good:rolleyes:

sounds like youve got it under control, how about some progress pics to show everyone how your travelling, I would be interested as I will be doing a kitchen using me trusty 'ole Triton https://www.ubeaut.biz/toothless.gif

great thread, it's like 'Womans Day' for men....no offence;)

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Originally Posted by Notsohandyman

One cabinet was 2mm out of square across the top but other than that Its coming together great.

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One of the great joys of installing kitchen cabinets is that the 2mm becomes 10mm when you put it on a wall that's out of square. I couldn't find a straight line anywhere in my kitchen. I don't envy Tom, doing it for a living for paying customers.

Thanks for the reddie Stuart. :o
I don't mind having to sift through disparate views to get the info I need; it's what makes the forum so good.
I'm building a kitchen at the moment and I appreciate the contributions that Tom has made to all the threads I've read. He does this sort of thing for a living and his advice (you may not agree with it sometimes) is invaluable for people like me.

And its goodnight from him, and good night from me.

Al :eek: