Which way would you install the C-columns in a new shed

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25th July 2007, 09:22 PM
DJ’s Timber

Mines got 2 one way and the other 2 the other way, because that's the way I did it and how I wanted it. Nothing to do with looks or support
25th July 2007, 09:25 PM
echnidna

d'ya really think another erector will take over the job?

wishful thinking
25th July 2007, 09:37 PM
Tools

Why not leave them as they are and have some flashing folded up to cover the open side once you have put your conduits in.

Tools
25th July 2007, 09:39 PM
pawnhead

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacksin

I think your beef is certainly legitimate and is with the company who haven't passed your wishes on to the erector and they are liable for any cost increase (provided you have your requests in writing). Lets face it, its your money and if the erector wants to act like a prima-donna and get the sulks, tell him to bugger off and ask for another erector who is not so childish.

Well then he has to have documented proof of which way the columns were supposed to go. I doubt that it would be on the drawings. From what I gather, all he's got is a verbal argument after three of the frames had already been stood up. It's easy to say it's being childish wanting to be payed for any extra work that's involved in satisfying a fussy client. Personally I think it's childish being so fussy in the first place.
I'm sure he wouldn't be so fussy if he had to pay to have the frames turned around, but he's got no problems in having the builder waste an extra day if he doesn't have to pay for it.
25th July 2007, 10:20 PM
MrFixIt

Hi

It's YOUR MONEY, YOUR SHED, you have it built they way YOU WANT - it's THAT simple.

If however there are difficulties in building it the way you want then YOU may have to pay extra. eg If the erector was not told beforehand how the shed should have been erected, then you may need to pay for dismantle and reassembly.

If for some reason the supports don't allow the construction the other way around then you may have to pay or just accept it.

If there is no reason WHY it can't be done the way YOU want, then the person doing the job HAS NO CHOICE to DO IT the way YOU want.

Whether or not he "always builds them THAT way" is NOT the point he is building it FOR YOU, NOT HIMSELF so "YOU RULE". If he doesn't like it he doesn't get paid SIMPLE!
25th July 2007, 10:36 PM
echnidna

The subby had already started building the shed the normal way.
then the problem arose. Subbies get paid for the job, not by the hour

So you want SPECIAL - YOU PAY FOR IT !!!!!!

Stubborn means it'll take a looonnnggg time for it to be built!!!!
25th July 2007, 11:33 PM
bitingmidge

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingDuck

So how was I to know that he would start building it the other way? I mean, am I supposed to sit down with him before hand and tell him which way I want every piece of material to go?

Yes.

P
:rolleyes:
26th July 2007, 08:30 AM
les88

but after 10 years as a cabinet maker you tend to be a bit pedantic about the little touches that make all the difference.

You should have asked the installers for a look at their plans before they started. If I was them I wouldn't be coming back.
les
26th July 2007, 09:05 AM
Pricey

I think the bloke who is builder needs a refocus. If you've asked for it to be the same as your other one, and their brochures show them that way then you're within your rights to ask him to erect what you paid for.
I don't see why you should have to put up with your shed not being constructed as represented by the company. Your builder should be looking to satisfy his customers.
His "small thing" of facing them towards the back is poor workmanship.
I have no doubt that 95% of people on this forum would choose to have them installed the way your asking for them to be installed.
Funnily enough i bet 95% of people would question the reasoning of the c channel being installed the other way.
26th July 2007, 09:44 AM
Pricey

Quote:

Originally Posted by echnidna

d'ya really think another erector will take over the job?

wishful thinking

Why not? They would probably agree that they are not installed properly or as should be reasonably expected.:2tsup:
26th July 2007, 09:50 AM
silentC

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Unfortunately many Aussie tradesman act like big girls and get upset over nothing.

That is an absolute classic! Oh the irony!!

I think mine face towards the door. I walk past them every day but I always seem to be thinking about something more trivial than which way the columns face...
26th July 2007, 12:21 PM
journeyman Mick

If you're that worried about it and are convinced that you're right, well, put your money where your mouth is. Contact the supplier and tell them you believe they are in breach of contract because they are not constructing the shed as agreed. Contact the QBSA, tell them and then toddle off to court, after all there's a few blokes here who are backing you up.

If it's not documented in the plans or attached notes or you haven't got a written confirmation of the detail you wanted you have absolutely no chance of getting it redone for free. But if course, if it's that important to you you'll end up paying to get it redone regardless because there's just no way you're going to live with it is there?

Don't take my word for it, or anyone else here, go and talk to the QBSA or see the builder in court.

Mick
26th July 2007, 12:32 PM
silentC

I've just read through this thing again. I just can't believe that there are people who actually would care which way they're installed, at least not to the point that they would want to pull it down and start again. The really scary thing is that there's every chance a court might actually agree with him.

So will you walk backwards when you are leaving the shed? I think it's probably the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
26th July 2007, 12:45 PM
journeyman Mick

Quote:

Originally Posted by silentC

.............The really scary thing is that there's every chance a court might actually agree with him...............

I seriously doubt it. I've managed to stay away from the whole messy litigious thing but unless it's in ther contract documentation then it doesn't really stand a chance. It would go before a building tribunal if I'm not mistaken and they do actually understand how the whole building contract process is meant to run.

Mick
27th July 2007, 03:43 PM
boban

Perhaps a more subtle approach is suitable

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingDuck

but after 10 years as a cabinet maker you tend to be a bit pedantic about the little touches that make all the difference.

Well seeing that my earlier responses where deleted from this thread due to me questioning the honesty of a particular individual based on my personal experience with them, perhaps I should just use his own words and let you decide whether it was warranted.

On 26 June 2006 FlyingDuck said this:

Quote:

I don't have enough experience with woodworking machinery just to be able to walk into a shop and have a brief play with the handles etc to know if it is any good, and besides, I have to buy this gear over the internet while still living in Hong Kong, so don't have the opportunity.

This you can find here https://www.woodworkforums.com/showpo...67&postcount=3

and then there was this

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I have not used 3 PH machinery before

https://www.woodworkforums.com/showpo...20&postcount=1

and this

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I can't do it with my Triton, as it is too wide.

Having not used a bandsaw before, why can't you just use rip fence supplied with the machine, as you would on a tablesaw?

https://www.woodworkforums.com/showpo...56&postcount=1

I always knew the Triton was the choice of experienced pedantic cabinetmakers.

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