Home Invasion

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Originally Posted by Bob Willson

Bloody law makers. Can't have any fun any more can we?

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Seems if you're a previous agent that did prosecuting in South Australia you can merrily kill an innocent cyclist with your car, leave them for dead at the scene, report the accident 6 hours later (convenient for BAC), and then plead guilty and only copy a $3100 fine.

Seems we do need man traps amongst some portions of the law enforcement area as the "Justice System" obviously treats manslaughter as a trivial event these days. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Eugene Mcgee is the name if you have not heard the recent news.

I have seen a super strong fly screen mesh at Hardware and General in Sydney. The in-store display has an attached hammer for bashing the screen. Either the stuff is really tough or some little person secretly replaces the mesh every few minutes.

Is this the same stuff referenced earlier by Bob Wilson?

Bob you can have all these bottles of wine Ive got.

Pour them into the moat, sure to keep even the most hardend crook away.
Bleeeeech

Al :( :p

http://www.crimsafe.com.au/product/whatIsCrimsafe.cfm

Good stuff if you need it! Looks like heavy insect mesh, will keep all but the tiny Biting Midges out!!

P :p

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Originally Posted by E. maculata

German shepherd, Alaskan malamute, .

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I have a German Shepherd X Malamute and we are looking after the in-laws dogs; a rotty and a ridgeback. Of course they are all about as viscous as lady bugs but 150kg of dogs should act as a deterant.

Find out where the offenders live and do it back to them!

3M make a security film, profilon is an other brand.
for cheap & chjeerfull security grills 3" reo in a steel frame powdercoated looks better than it sounds.
Old style window boxes make it harder to get closer to the window, particularly of you don't make em real strong & fill em with bits tin of old tinplate. Low life grabs window box to pull self up, wondow box colapses spilling noisy tin stuff, pots, potting mix(with dynamic lifter) and nasty spikey cactus all over low life. I won't stopp em, it wont hurt em (much), but it will be noisy and funny.
I had a customer who planted one of those big suculents with the reeeallly sharp pointy spikes on the ends of the leaves under one window. They reconed the never botherd locking it.
Plant bogonvillia. stinging nettles.
Encourage paperwasps.
motion detector flood lights.
Burgular allarm siren cover & alarm stickers.

Of course, there is the other method - move out of the area. If may be conceeding a small victory to the scum (sorry to any scum reading this) but it saves a heap of stress & greif.

A small illustration: some acquaintances of mine decided to get a house. They purchased a des. res. in a older suburb - primarily 'fibro', but their place was brick. Some local decided to break in (#1)thru' the front door. So they got dead locks etc. Local comes back & breaks in again (#2) by kicking the front door in breaking the locks out of the door. A new heavy dudty door was purchased & fitted - guess what? Door kicked in again, frame collapsed (#4). A bit upset, the lads had an industrial strength steel door frame & steel lined door, with all the trimmings installed. A few days later they come home to find the front door, complete with the steel frame still locked in place, sitting in the front hall & the house emptied again (#5). BTW the house was on the corner of 2 major roads, low fence etc. so all this had to go on in full view of hundreds of people. After #5, they sold up and left.

Which is a realy long way of saying, if the B's want in, they will get in. And usually they have nothing, so even if they mangle themselves in the yard, the time they spend in hospital is a plus to them (free food, board & prescription drugs). And they'd probably steal the dog too. :o

My choice for crime prevention has been the German Shepherd - in pairs nothing will mess with you. Unfortunealtly Jet my German shepherd is very nervous around strangers so I won't risk his mental health with a 24+ hour flight and 30 day quarantine otherwise I would be bringing him. He is on gaurd 24/7, he especially puts my wife at ease when I'm out working late. Up to 2 years ago I had two and they seem to be even more protective over their domain - I guess it has something to do with the pack mentallity and they're much more brave in numbers. When I get established in Aus I will be looking for at least one.

A couple of the deterants that I use !

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Originally Posted by DanP

Can't see why not. :D

Good to see you're on the ball, Bob.

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So would you say then (hypothetically of course) that you can do all sorts of nasty things such as stakes in the bottoms of pits etc., so long as you are not setting a man trap but are instead hunting for lions or something?

You will be surprised at what dummy security cameras and a few signs will do.
I have a couple with a red LED and I get a lot of comment from visitors but you have to make out they are real. It seems that nobody wants to be identified so hopefully they move to an easier target.
I view bars as a danger to the inhabitants if there is a house fire and why should we live in a cell when it is the intruder that need to be there.

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Originally Posted by rodm

You will be surprised at what dummy security cameras and a few signs will do.

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I have no doubt they will help deter thieves.
But the scum I am talking about are intent on causing mayhem.
I am aware of one of them who violently assaulted a 17 yo girl in front of 2 cops. (on camera to boot) He's still walking around freely.

Can you imagine the effect on little kids who have truly seen the "boogey man"

What's wrong with a real alarm and some window bars. Some sensor lights would also help. What's the boundary fence? Is access from the street easy. Are plants obscuring the points of entry from passers by? If you keep upgrading security, they will look elsewhere. I don't think the argument "that if they want in, they will get in" makes much sense. You just need to make your house look more difficult than the one next door. Druggies are opportunists, if a house is easy to rob, or valuables are on display than you are a target.

Cheers
Pulse

Im with Pulse.

A real back to base alarm system that screams at the top of its lungs when tripped is what I would do.
I have one on my place (not cause Ive had problems, just cause I like peace of mind), when it does go off the flashing blue lights and the VERY loud siren is enough to stop theives IMO.

Sure they may break a window initially but with that much noise and comotion going on they wont stick around long and probably wont do it next time, they will simply pick an easier target (some other poor bloke).

A dog is a good idea as well, and you dont even need a german shepard, a lab or anything with a little size that will bark occasionally will probably do the trick.

Just my 2c :D