EEE / Wax on Organoil : Rejuvenation ?

[youvee]

All,

I have just finished applying 2 coats of Organoil (Hard Burnishing) - sanded down to 1200 grit - onto my Jarrah table / desk and am very happy with the result.

I am now considering applying EEE Ultrashine or Traditional Wax (both Ubeaut products) onto this oiled surface for the final polish. However, I had one query : when it comes to rejuvenating the surface with an extra coat / wipe of oil after, say, 1 or 2 years, do I need to strip off the EEE / wax coat ? If yes, how best can this be done ?

I have already posted this question at the Organoil & Ubeaut web-sites few days back and am still awaiting an answer.

Ciao -

_ Youvee

[rsser]

I would wait 2-3 weeks before doing anything further. In my experience Organoil can raise the grain over this period, and a final fine sand is needed.

And I'm not a fan of wax on tables - too prone to marking from coffee cups. If you want a higher shine, try another layer or two of oil then use a sheepskin or Swansdown (from Ubeaut) buff.

[ubeaut]

Youvee - U-Beaut didn't answer you because to my knowledge we didn't receive anything from you. I arrived home yesterday (Tuesday) from the Sydney Wood Show to a broken spam filter, 3,463 emails and a bulletin board in disarray. It took a number of hours to wade through all the emails and until late last night to fix the BB problems. It is entirely possible that your email if received went out with the rubbish.

The answer to your question is firstly to follow the organoil instructions to the letter, do not deviate in any way.

Secondly keep the 1200 grit that you finished off with and in 2 to 3 weeks when the finish has dulled off (and it will) use this to go over the entire surface again but do not add any more oil.

You can use traditional wax over the finish but not for another few weeks after the final burnishing above.

Using most waxes over any finish will in give you a surface that will mark easily with water, finger marks etc, etc. Traditional wax won't attract dust and finger marks like most others but it will mark with water. However in trials I have done so will most of the oils. Unless they are of the Danish variety which all include a proportion of polyurethane or other form of varnish. They will still mark but not quite as easily.

EEE-Ultra Shine can be used over pretty well most finishes to bring up a higher shine and eradicate minor imperfections. It will react to water etc the same way as any other wax.

Don't use the EEE until after the final burnish as mentioned above.

Hope this helps.

Cheers - Neil :D

[DanP]

a bulletin board in disarray.

Does this mean that 's gunna get the sack?? :eek:

The UBBBAMU (U Beaut Bulletin Board Administrators and Moderators Union) will go absolutely berserk...

IS NOT TO GO, HEY HEY, HO HO.

There y'are , you owe me one. :D

Dan

[youvee]

Neil & Rsser,

Many thanks for your tips. That will sure help.

However, my original question still remains un-answered. I have heard that a coat of EEE or wax over an oiled / burnished surface gives a super finish on any surface. However, when it is time for a rejuvenating coat (say after an year or so), is the coat of EEE / wax required to be completely stripped off before the rejuvenating coat of Organoil can be added ? And if yes, how can it be stripped off ? What is the exact procedure / steps to be followed for such rejuvenating coats for years to come ?

If it is a big hassle stripping off the EEE / wax, then I might have to re-consider whether to apply this final finish or not. Perhaps just a buff with Ubeaut Swansdown Mop - as suggested by rsser - should suffice.

Ciao -

- Youvee

[ubeaut]

Youvee - You shouldn't need to rejuvenate with oil. It it probably wouldn't work anyway as the oil will have polymerised in the timber and should exclude any other from soaking in if done correctly. You would use wax, if needed. Besides in 12 months time there wouldn't be a trace of the EEE left on the surface anyway as most would have worn off with regular use and cleaning.

Personally I wouldn't oil or wax a table top unless you were prepared to put in constant upkeep with either an oiling or waxing regime depending upon the finish.

It is far more sensible to use a hard surface coating for a table top, like shellac, polyurethane or lacquer.

Cheers - Neil :D