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Bleedin Thumb
14th March 2007, 09:55 AM
I was going to say Syms Covington aka Charles Darwins bag man but inspector of forests sounds like it could have been Allan Cunningham or Von Mueller.

Andy Mac
14th March 2007, 10:06 AM
Getting warmer....:wink:

AlexS
14th March 2007, 01:40 PM
James Backhouse? And the book "The Botany of the Antarctic Voyage of H. M. Discovery Ships Erebus and Terror in the Years 1839-1843"?

I'm guessing that the reference to a horse eater refers to the diet on this voyage?

Andy Mac
14th March 2007, 02:12 PM
No Alex, but you're on the right track about emergency food supplies! He was involved in exploration....and NSW was a lot bigger back then.

Cheers,

silentC
14th March 2007, 02:13 PM
I thought horse eater was a slang term for Frenchman?

Andy Mac
14th March 2007, 03:17 PM
I thought horse eater was a slang term for Frenchman?


:D :D No I meant the real tucker....

Bleedin Thumb
14th March 2007, 05:32 PM
If it was camel eater I would assume Burke or Wills, a dog eater - Mawson but a horse eater I can only quess Leichhardt but I honestly doubt that he had the sense to eat a horse even if he was starving.
If it was Liechhardt then the gardening friend may have been Capt. Lynd? or even Mitchell....I'm grabbing at straws now.

Andy Mac
14th March 2007, 07:47 PM
The tale is one of hardship and privation, the hot air filled with flies and spear.

Andy Mac
15th March 2007, 09:39 AM
At the end of the journey (which the book was based on) he was forced to leave comrades, and his treasured botanical collection behind....

Bleedin Thumb
15th March 2007, 10:23 AM
OK I won't be beaten by this gggrrrrrrrrrr.


Is it Guilfoyle ?

EDIT next guess would be Daniel Bunce

Andy Mac
15th March 2007, 10:29 AM
No sorry...:p More clues??

Bleedin Thumb
15th March 2007, 11:10 AM
Yes, I think I assumed wrongly that they were English born - living in Australia so yes more clues...

Andy Mac
15th March 2007, 11:16 AM
Yes he was born in England, travelled to Australia (but not transported)and died in Grafton I think. Had an unusual relationship with an Aboriginal, which probably saved his life, vis-a-vis the journey in question.

Giving it away now...:D

Ian Smith
15th March 2007, 11:31 AM
Carron, William (1821 - 1876)

Bleedin Thumb
15th March 2007, 11:33 AM
Sounds a bit like Mitchell or Kennedy but Mitchell died in Sydney and Kennedy died up in Cape York.

Jeezzzzz I think I have mentioned every blood explorer/ botanist of that period who have I forgotten...............

Put me out of my misery and tell me who the horse eater is..... I know a bit of a blatant clue but I need help here.

Ian Smith
15th March 2007, 11:33 AM
CARRON, WILLIAM (1821-1876), botanist and explorer, was born on 18 December 1821 at Pulham, Norfolk, England, son of Charles Carron and his wife Mary, née Noble. He followed his father's profession as a gardener. On 25 February 1844 he married Eliza Ellis at Westhall, Suffolk; they went to Cork to join the Royal Saxon which sailed for New South Wales on 18 March.

Carron appears to have arrived in Sydney in charge of plants for Alexander McLeay (http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A020156b.htm)'s garden at Elizabeth Bay, but was soon working at Thomas Shepherd's Darling nursery at the Glebe. Early in 1848 the new director of the Botanic Gardens, Charles Moore (http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A050316b.htm), suggested that Carron should accompany Edmund Kennedy (http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A020040b.htm)'s expedition as botanist. Accordingly Carron left Sydney on 29 April in the Tam o' Shanter with the party of thirteen bound for Rockingham Bay, Queensland. Only three survived the exploration of Cape York Peninsula: Carron, the convict William Goddard and the Aboriginal Jackey Jackey (http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A020007b.htm).

In March 1849 Carron gave evidence at the inquiry into the deaths of Kennedy and the nine others, and later in the year he published A Narrative of an Expedition, Undertaken Under the Direction of the Late Mr. Assistant Surveyor E. B. Kennedy, for the Exploration of the Country Lying Between Rockingham Bay and Cape York (Sydney, 1849), the only full account of the expedition. By June he was back at the Darling nursery, but was appointed clerk in the department of the superintendent of convicts in October at a salary of £100. On 1 July 1853 Carron joined the Customs Department as a locker. After a visit to England in 1854-55 he was appointed locker-in-charge of Lamb's warehouse, Sydney. Finally on 1 November 1866 he was appointed collector for the Sydney Botanic Gardens and able to pursue his chief interest. In the 1860s he lectured in botany to a few members of the Survey Department, including R. D. Fitzgerald (http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A040193b.htm) and Walter Scott Campbell. In May 1869 Moore, Carron and Fitzgerald visited Lord Howe Island; with Fitzgerald Carron returned to the island two years later for more observations and specimens.

In 1872 Carron's reports on twenty forest reserves in northern New South Wales were published as parliamentary papers. He condemned the practice of wastefully barking trees for building purposes and warned that the supply of red cedar would soon be exhausted if current cutting procedures were continued. At the end of 1875 Carron resigned from the Botanic Gardens to become inspector of forests and forestry ranger in the Clarence district. He went to Grafton early in February 1876 but, while he was making arrangements for his family to join him, his health failed rapidly. He died on 25 February 1876 and was buried in the Church of England cemetery, Grafton.

Carron's first wife Eliza had died without issue on 4 March 1861 and was buried in St Stephen's cemetery, Camperdown. On 19 September 1867 he married Jessie Pearson in Sydney; they had two daughters; Emily Noble (1870-1964) and Annie Mabel (1875-1966). Between 1871 and 1876 the family lived in the Domain Lodge behind St Mary's Cathedral. Jessie Carron died on 19 May 1910 soon after resigning as postmistress of Old Guildford, and was buried in St John's cemetery, Camden.

Perhaps Carron's chief memorial is his narrative of the Kennedy expedition. As Stuart Russell said, 'his simple precis of the suffering around him and within him is a monument on which his name may endure'. Carron discovered Australia's only true beech, which Moore named Fagus carronii (Nothofagus moorei F. Muell.). Mueller (http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A050353b.htm) named Bauhinia carronii and other plants in his honour. His name is also commemorated on monuments in St James's Church, Sydney, and at Mission Beach, near Tully, Queensland.

Andy Mac
15th March 2007, 11:49 AM
Well done Ian. Couldn't have said it better myself...!!
The book sounds a bit dry but really is a yarn worth reading. The hardships they went through are just staggering, as it turned into a bleak journey of starvation and attack by Aboriginals, but despite this Carron remained infatuated with the land and the plants. He actually returned to rescue his collection from where he'd buried it, but it was destroyed by the locals!
Your turn Ian!:)

Cheers,

Ian Smith
15th March 2007, 12:01 PM
What??? Oh bugger:oo: didn't realise this was "pass the parcel" - :rolleyes: Ok, well off the top of my head. This bloke was real inspiration to me - your clues are - an Irishman and an airplane - should be easy for some.

Andy Mac
15th March 2007, 12:09 PM
Was it some act of skill and bravery piloting a passenger plane...like a DC3 for instance:?

Cheers,

Ian Smith
15th March 2007, 12:13 PM
No - this bloke wasn't a pilot but it was certainly an act of skill and endurance and yes, bravery too.

Shedhand
15th March 2007, 12:52 PM
No - this bloke wasn't a pilot but it was certainly an act of skill and endurance and yes, bravery too.
Paddy Down

Ian Smith
15th March 2007, 01:53 PM
Phhhttt!!! Ahh yes, the bloke whose parchute opened on impact - Nope try harder. This bloke was probably never in a plane

Shedhand
15th March 2007, 02:52 PM
Phhhttt!!! Ahh yes, the bloke whose parchute opened on impact - Nope try harder. This bloke was probably never in a planeCan we have the century and decade of his/her act of endurance and/or bravery. :?

Ian Smith
15th March 2007, 02:54 PM
Between WW1 and WWII - in Australia

silentC
15th March 2007, 03:10 PM
Can't remember the name but there was a bloke who heard of a plane that went down up in QLD and he reckoned he knew where it might have come down, so he went in and saved one of the passengers. Everyone else had given up on it. Is that the one?

Ian Smith
15th March 2007, 03:17 PM
Could be - got a name?

silentC
15th March 2007, 03:41 PM
Bernard O'Reilly!!

Ian Smith
15th March 2007, 03:53 PM
Yep that's him!!
Just an ordinary bloke but an extraordinary feat .
Take a look here http://lamington.nrsm.uq.edu.au/Documents/Other/stin.htm
and then read his book "Green Mountains".

Bernard knew the bush so well he could tell direction without a compass and he knew how high, to about 50 feet, he was, and on what side of the mountain, by the trees which were in blossom a the time.
No one else could have saved those two, Proud and Binstead.
Proud started Proud's Jewelery Shop here in Brisbane.
An amazing story.

Over to you Silent

Ian

silentC
15th March 2007, 04:03 PM
I had to google his name. I knew enough about the story to build a decent search and found him on the first page near the top, so only cheated a little bit :)

An easy one because I'm not going to be in tomorrow. Someone changed the way we look at the world with a single map. Who was it and what was the map of?

Andy Mac
15th March 2007, 04:23 PM
First thing in my head...Mercator, a map of the Earth.

silentC
15th March 2007, 04:30 PM
No, not Mercator.

This map was first published in the early 19th century. It was a world first.

silentC
15th March 2007, 04:51 PM
Last clue. This map, although drawn by hand nearly 200 years ago is almost identical to similar maps drawn today from information sourced by current technology. Leave it with you. avagoodweekend...

Shedhand
15th March 2007, 05:12 PM
Last clue. This map, although drawn by hand nearly 200 years ago is almost identical to similar maps drawn today from information sourced by current technology. Leave it with you. avagoodweekend...Haven't got time to nut it out coz I'm off to the Hobart WW Show at the crack of dawn tomorra. Got some to buy.... :D. Will tell all on friday night or satdy

Shedhand
15th March 2007, 05:14 PM
Last clue. This map, although drawn by hand nearly 200 years ago is almost identical to similar maps drawn today from information sourced by current technology. Leave it with you. avagoodweekend...A topographical map?

AlexS
15th March 2007, 08:24 PM
Geological map I think, but can't remember who the cartographer was. There was a book about him in the last couple of years called "The map(s) that changed the world."

Then again, James Cook's map of the east coast of Australia fits those criteria, but I think it was published earlier than the 19th century.

Groggy
15th March 2007, 08:28 PM
Was it the Italian mapmaker, Americo Vespucci? It is claimed America got its name from him.

Edit: Can I change my mind? Vespucci was too early, so Goodes projection? He altered the Mercator to provide relative scaling.

silentC
20th March 2007, 09:19 AM
Sorry all, I missed the last couple of posts here and I'd forgotten it was my question.

Alex is on the money with his first suggestion. Shouldn't be too hard to Google up the name and what the map was of...

Bleedin Thumb
27th March 2007, 11:33 AM
An easy one .......... Someone changed the way we look at the world with a single map. Who was it and what was the map of?


Thats easy... it was Mr Squiggle and he made us look at the world upside down ......

silentC
27th March 2007, 11:39 AM
In one of those moods today are we?

Bleedin Thumb
27th March 2007, 11:44 AM
Yes:D
Bored and practasing a bit of work evasion.:-

silentC
27th March 2007, 12:10 PM
I've been doing that all week. Trouble is I still have to do a week's work. Guess I'll do it all on Friday after lunch.

Oh well, looks like no-one shares the same keen interest that I have in the history of geology :D

The man was William Smith and the map was his geological map of England, which was the first time anyone had attempted to map the types of rock that lay under the countryside. He could stand on a hill and look across to another hill and tell you what types of rocks could be found on it by looking at the ground beneath his feet. Astounding! A great party trick and conversation starter too :wink:

A silentC good read: "The Map That Changed The World".

Bleedin Thumb
27th March 2007, 12:56 PM
That book sounds like one that they would substitute the lyrics of a song for on Spics and Specks.......:)

You better ask another one Silent, if nothing else we are getting an inside into what type of reading matter is found in your library.........riveting stuff......:D :D :D

silentC
27th March 2007, 01:27 PM
OK. Who or what is Quiss?

Bleedin Thumb
27th March 2007, 01:30 PM
Quentin Crisp asking for a kiss? No?

Bleedin Thumb
27th March 2007, 03:02 PM
Man its quiet around here Today!

Is it the German company whom according to Google produces a variety of devices for monitering and viewing various functions in the manufacturing and technology fields? .....In other words makes tiny freakin cameras?

silentC
27th March 2007, 03:06 PM
Nah he's an obscure character from a little known book by a not so famous author that I read once. Just trying to demonstrate the breadth and depth of my literary knowledge.

What happened to the boy who kicked pigs?

Gra
27th March 2007, 03:10 PM
someone squealled :-))

Bleedin Thumb
27th March 2007, 04:39 PM
Are you referring to the dragon quest Science Fantasy series if so Quiss was some monster thing with rubber arms and suction caps from Dragon Knight.

silentC
27th March 2007, 04:43 PM
Nah, I didn't really expect anyone to know who he is. He's a character from Walking on Glass by Iain Banks (without the M). One of my favourite books, right up there with Feersum Endjinn.

Serious question though, what did happen to the boy who kicked pigs? If you're a true sci-fi buff, you have to know the answer to this one :wink:

Bleedin Thumb
27th March 2007, 05:00 PM
Does he get eaten by them? Sweet revenge and all that.

Shedhand
27th March 2007, 05:05 PM
The only science fiction I like is HHGTTG and Red Dwarf. So I wouldn't have a clue about the rugrat who deserves a belt round the ears for kickin' a defenceless pig. :(( :D

Felder
27th March 2007, 05:09 PM
What happened to the boy who kicked pigs?

He got a sow foot. :cool:









mmph.......



mfffft.......



HA HA HA HA HA :hahaha:

:rotfl:

:roflmao:

Sow foot.....
:sigh:

silentC
27th March 2007, 05:19 PM
You're such a ham...

silentC
27th March 2007, 05:22 PM
It was a doctor who was to blame. Reckoned he needed the bread.

Felder
27th March 2007, 05:44 PM
Is this a Dr Seuss thing? :?

You are well read. :oo:

Bleedin Thumb
27th March 2007, 06:18 PM
No Doctor Who. Tom Baker also stared in some of Ray Harryhausen's films

Edit Got a post eaten :? was that what happened to the pig kicker.. got eaten by pigs?

silentC
27th March 2007, 06:19 PM
Yeah, so what happened to the boy who kicked pigs?

Bleedin Thumb
27th March 2007, 06:28 PM
I haven't read it so its all guess work.....did he get trampled to death by them?

Tex B
28th March 2007, 11:17 AM
Silent,

I cheated a bit by googling boy who kicked pigs. Plus I don't want to have to come up with another quiz.

But what a sick book that looks to be. Did you enjoy it?

Maybe he'll have a sequel about the boy who pulls wings off of flies and becomes a leader of a major political party or something equally depressing.


Tex

silentC
28th March 2007, 11:23 AM
It was a very strange little book written by an obviously disturbed person. Hard to say if I enjoyed it or not. If you take it as a joke, then it's amusing, but if you take it seriously, well, let's just say that the Tom Baker Doctor Who character was not far off the mark...

In the end, our hero ends up impaled in the top of a tree where he dies a horrible, painful, lonely death befitting his horrid existence. You see, it's a fairytale with a moral. And a very odd book.

OK, what happened to Owen Meaney? I'll find someone with the same weird tastes if it kills me.

Bleedin Thumb
28th March 2007, 11:24 AM
Yes I cheated as well just to keep things kicking along......so to speak so the little blighter got eaten by rats unless I've been led astray?

I thought being eaten by pigs had more of a poetic justice feel to it or perhaps falling onto a bacon slicing machine...

Edit I was led astray...never beleive what you read on the net!

silentC
28th March 2007, 11:40 AM
Oh no, he was eaten by rats all right. I don't have it in front of me, but from memory he ends up impaled in the trunk of a tree that has been torn in half by a storm (or maybe lightning) and as he's lying there, the rats get him.

Caliban
30th March 2007, 09:36 PM
I love your posts Darren. They make me feel normal. Don't be disgusting, I'm married to normal:D :D :D or so she has me believe.

watson
30th March 2007, 11:22 PM
I reckon Owen Meany was killed by a hand grenade.....if I remember rightly......in the toilet of an airport..........whilst saving a child from certain death. IN CAPITALS IF YOU DON"T MIND.
And I loved the "Holy Goalie" bit.

silentC
2nd April 2007, 09:40 AM
Over to you Noel!

watson
2nd April 2007, 04:54 PM
Wow! Got One!
The Deity named the animals.
When?
Album?
Artist?

impalabazz
1st May 2007, 09:25 AM
Wow! Got One!
The Deity named the animals.
When?
Album?
Artist?

I haven't viewed this thread before so tell me if I'm outa line.

Are we talking about Eric Burdon and the Animals type animals ??.

If so "the Animals" was formed in about 1962 from an existing band formed by Alan Price.

Artist: Eric Burdon joined at about this time and became the lead vocalist.

Album: self titled: "the Animals"
Their big hit was "House of the Rising Sun" but recorded many other excellent tracks.

This band was reformed in about late 1965-66 after a big split and became "Eric Burdon and the Animals" and lasted to about 1969.

Cheers..........Barry.

watson
1st May 2007, 07:25 PM
G'day Barry,
Sorry no kewpie doll prize, but good info on the Animals.

graemet
11th May 2007, 10:19 PM
1. A long time ago when the earth was young
2. The Unicorn
3. The Irish Rovers

Peter57
13th May 2007, 02:14 PM
Are we talking
God gave names to all the animals?
When? In the beginning .... a long time ago
Album: Slow Train coming
Artist: Bob Dylan

watson
13th May 2007, 05:25 PM
Well done Peter57!!! :2tsup: :2tsup:

So I guess it up to you now to have a go

Peter57
13th May 2007, 07:14 PM
We both got it wrong - the song is Man gave names to all the animals.
Evertything else is OK

watson
13th May 2007, 07:30 PM
Gloom!!
I've had that in my mind all the time........Dylan's fault...must be!

Peter57
13th May 2007, 07:35 PM
This guy wishes he was a trapper and he'd give a thousand pelts to sleep with somebody.

Who is it?
Who does he want to sleep with?


Cheers,
Peter

watson
13th May 2007, 09:02 PM
Why are you on here on you 50th Birthday?????

Happy Birthday Peter!

Peter57
14th May 2007, 09:10 PM
Thanks Watson,
Just killing time while I uploaded music to my new Ipod. I'll never fill the thing.

Peter57
15th May 2007, 08:27 PM
C'mon fellas I'll give you a hint
The singer shares the same first name as UBeaut.

Frank&Earnest
16th May 2007, 06:23 PM
Are you looking for Neil Young and Pocahontas? What is this about anyway?

Grunt
16th May 2007, 06:41 PM
To sleep with Pocahontas and find out how she felt.
And maybe Marlon Brando would be there by the fire

Peter57
16th May 2007, 07:30 PM
It's a quiz that seems to have been going for a while. The first post gives the rule.

BTW you are correct. Now it's your turn to think up a question
Cheers,
Peter

Grunt
16th May 2007, 08:37 PM
When you're down on Rue Morgue Avenue

Who's there and what are they going to do to you?

Shedhand
16th May 2007, 10:04 PM
hungry women
and they gonna make a mess outa you

Dylan or Nina Simone
(Just like) Tom Thumb blues

Grunt
16th May 2007, 10:26 PM
Yup, your turn

Frank&Earnest
16th May 2007, 11:07 PM
Yep, I should have read the OP, 133 pages ago. If I understand correctly, Grunt, you gazumped me...:D

Grunt
16th May 2007, 11:16 PM
Yup, I'm a bastard like that. You can have a go now. :)

Frank&Earnest
16th May 2007, 11:19 PM
... and gazump Shedhand? I do not want to be "a bastard like that"!:D

I am no music buff, anyway, but the Op says any topic, so I'll put this as a background if you wish: the old "what timber is this?"
Warning, it's not going to be easy. Enjoy.

Shedhand
16th May 2007, 11:48 PM
... and gazump Shedhand? I do not want to be "a bastard like that"!:D

I am no music buff, anyway, but the Op says any topic, so I'll put this as a background if you wish: the old "what timber is this?"
Warning, it's not going to be easy. Enjoy.Either an Apricot or Walnut tree?
PS: You gazumping mongrel....:~:D

Frank&Earnest
16th May 2007, 11:54 PM
Shedhand, you can still go ahead, I'll just give the answer in a few weeks' time when everybody has given up guessing..... I said it won't be easy!:D

watson
16th May 2007, 11:56 PM
It looks suspiciously like Cypress Macrocarpa........
Just a guess

Shedhand
17th May 2007, 12:03 AM
... every ___ has a ______
...that's ___ thing you're ______
...I ____ for you.

Fill in the 3 missing words.
Name the artist
Name the collection
Name the work

Clue - its not contemporary.

Frank&Earnest
17th May 2007, 12:21 AM
It looks suspiciously like Cypress Macrocarpa........
Just a guess

... but is instead an Ebenacea...:U

Cliff Rogers
17th May 2007, 12:25 AM
..."what timber is this?" .....

Give us a clue, native, street tree, fruit tree etc.

I'll guess Jacaranda 'cos it is so pale.

PS. Thanks for the clue.

Cliff Rogers
17th May 2007, 12:27 AM
persimmon?

Frank&Earnest
17th May 2007, 12:35 AM
I gave it away too soon, did I? Good guess Cliff. Back to your music, folks :)

Bleedin Thumb
5th July 2007, 11:03 AM
Well this thread has laid dormant for long enough so best wake it up......

Name the musical artist.

Born in France, lived for a long time in Spain.
Uses a veriety of instruments including childrens toy instruments and other strange things to acheive a distinctive almost naive, avantegarde, rhythm based sound.
Has released over 50 albums.

Iain
5th July 2007, 03:26 PM
Tiersen?

Bleedin Thumb
5th July 2007, 05:02 PM
Nup good guess ...I think he is a bit more cacophonous ....more Jonathon Richman or Jean- Luc Ponty perhaps and the music has a catalonian flavour due to his time in Barcelona.

Bleedin Thumb
6th July 2007, 02:11 PM
This guys got about 60 albums out and nobodies heard of him...

Well I cant give a glue without making it googable so it is Pascal Comelade do a google and check out his music - good stuff if you like the genre.

Check out Les Krims web site it has a good selection of tracks.
Beware don't go to Les Krims site if you are offended by photographs containing nudity.. its not a site, he is a photographer, a rather good one IMHO.

funkychicken
6th July 2007, 11:18 PM
Well I would have said it was Pascal Comelade but I hadn't known it until i read your post.

I guess I'll take this chance to ask a question:

What does grillagé derrière translate into?

Shedhand
6th July 2007, 11:31 PM
Well I would have said it was Pascal Comelade but I hadn't known it until i read your post.

I guess I'll take this chance to ask a question:

What does grillagé derrière translate into?Grilled rump (steak) i'd guess.