End of the World 5.37PM AEST

[Phil Spencer]

The particle accelerator in Europe will be started at 5.37Pm AEST tomorrow the boffins want to recreate what happened just after the Big Bang. Some think that a small black hole will be produced that will swallow the Earth. What do you plan to be doing if the world is swallowed up by a black hole? for me it will be business as usual as long as I don't get swallowed up by my own black hole.

[tea lady]

At least we might find all our long lost screws, nut, pens and tools.:cool:

[Phil Spencer]

At least we might find all our long lost screws, nut, pens and tools.:cool:

How would we know if we had been swallowed up by a Black Hole :?.

Should Kevin Rudd have declared a 'Black Hole' holiday?

Do I need to do my end of month paperwork early?

Too many questions keep popping into my head :oo::oo:

Think I need a Bex and a good lay down.

[kiwigeo]

If you watched Andrew Denton last night you would have seen him interview one of the Phycisists involved in the Large Hadron Collider project. One interesting point he made....the amount of energy released by the collision is miniscule. Most of the energy being fed into the apparatus is used to cool it down to its working tempetrature (-271degC).

All the talk of black holes and Switzerland disappearing off the map is the product of conspiracy theorists who dont have a clue what the LHC is all about.

See here for the facts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider

[tea lady]

I think they should turn it on on the weekend, then if we get trapped in our last minute for ever it can be sitting in the sun, or bushwalking or woodwork, not answering another (^%#@$ email at work.:rolleyes:

[tea lady]

If you watched Andrew Denton last night you would have seen him interview one of the Phycisists involved in the Large Hadron Collider project. One interesting point he made....the amount of energy released by the collision is miniscule. Most of the energy being fed into the apparatus is used to cool it down to its working tempetrature (-271degC).

All the talk of black holes and Switzerland disappearing off the map is the product of conspiracy theorists who dont have a clue what the LHC is all about.

See here for the facts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider
Oh come on.:- Why destroy a good thread with the facts.:rolleyes:

I saw that guy on denton too. He was great. :2tsup:

[Phil Spencer]

If you watched Andrew Denton last night you would have seen him interview one of the Phycisists involved in the Large Hadron Collider project. One interesting point he made....the amount of energy released by the collision is miniscule. Most of the energy being fed into the apparatus is used to cool it down to its working tempetrature (-271degC).

All the talk of black holes and Switzerland disappearing off the map is the product of conspiracy theorists who dont have a clue what the LHC is all about.

See here for the facts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider

Some people have no sense of fun :(


I think they should turn it on on the weekend, then if we get trapped in our last minute for ever it can be sitting in the sun, or bushwalking or woodwork, not answering another (^%#@$ email at work.:rolleyes:

I like the way you think sitting under a tree with a glass of red with the important people thats the way to go. :B


Oh come on.:- Why destroy a good thread with the facts.:rolleyes:

I saw that guy on denton too. He was great. :2tsup:

Agreed

[Waldo]

Ladies and children first. :D













(my SWMBO and kids excepted of course)

[Woodwould]

If my viewing of Antiques Roadshow is interrupted I shall be exceedingly annoyed!

[chrisb691]

If you watched Andrew Denton last night you would have seen him interview one of the Phycisists involved in the Large Hadron Collider project. One interesting point he made....the amount of energy released by the collision is miniscule. Most of the energy being fed into the apparatus is used to cool it down to its working tempetrature (-271degC).

All the talk of black holes and Switzerland disappearing off the map is the product of conspiracy theorists who dont have a clue what the LHC is all about.

See here for the facts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider
Would we miss Switzerland?

[Steve Fryar]

I am already in a black hole.It's called Moomba.

[Christopha]

I would just bend over and kiss my own black hole goodbye.... Except the world actually ceased to exist at midnight 2000. Unfortunately we have all been too busy to notice!

[Phil Spencer]

Have to make sure that I am not on the crapper I don't think I can manage two things at once........disappearing up a black hole and .............:oo:

[Groggy]

A nihilist existentialist may argue that you cannot destroy what did not exist in the first place. Kant, Sartre and Nietzsche come on down!

[Greg Q]

Emmanuel Kante? He's an old ant.

[Phil Spencer]

My daughter just pointed out the closer a body gets to a black hole the faster it goes and it approaches the speed of light, Einstein said that time is relevative the the faster a body goes time slows down, so we may never know as we approach time will slow down and we will never notice what's going on. :?:?:?:doh::?:C

[Groggy]

Right, we need a flux capacitor, a Delorean and a thunderstorm to fix this.

Oh, and a script.

Kooky scientists we have, in abundance apparently :)

[Groggy]

Emmanuel Kante? He's an old ant.Nope, the other one, Immanuel Kant :p :D

[Phil Spencer]

Right, we need a flux capacitor, a Delorean and a thunderstorm to fix this.

:)

What about a sonic screwdriver? :2tsup:

[AlexS]

... and we will never notice what's going on. :?:?:?:doh::?:C

So nothing changes?

[witch1]

jeez,
I,ve just finished painting the house, do youse think there will be much dust?
w1

[tea lady]

My daughter just pointed out the closer a body gets to a black hole the faster it goes and it approaches the speed of light, Einstein said that time is relevative the the faster a body goes time slows down, so we may never know as we approach time will slow down and we will never notice what's going on. :?:?:?:doh::?:C
Will, from my research (reading the New Scientist.:rolleyes:) I think what happens in that we approach the event horizon but never get there. Kinda like always being half way there all the time.:D I'mm staying in the deck chair, wine in hand all day tomorrow just in case.:q


:hmm: Actually, I think that guy on Denton said they weren't coliding anything for some months yet. Tomorrow they are just turning the frig on.:doh: I hope they tell us when they're going to make this black hole we keepp hearing about.:-

[Master Splinter]

No, it won't be a black hole - it'll be a resonance cascade. It should be at Black Mesa, but the Franco-Swiss border is near enough.

So watch out for aliens from the Xen borderworld, especially headcrabs and headcrab zombies. Don your Hazardous Environment suit and grab your crowbar!

[Phil Spencer]

I'mm staying in the deck chair, wine in hand all day tomorrow just in case.


Not a bad idea, but I have to take Rhonda to rehab :D

[watson]

So watch out for aliens from the Xen borderworld, especially headcrabs and headcrab zombies. Don your Hazardous Environment suit and grab your crowbar!

So should we stock up on head lice treatments????????

[kiwigeo]

LOL...I know EXACTLY what youre talking about.

I did 8 years in that place and wouldnt go back there for all the money in the world. These days I only work offshore...no more crappy desert rigs for me mate.


I am already in a black hole.It's called Moomba.

[BobL]

x degrees of separation.

One of my Italian cousins (along with about 150 other people) helped design two of the detectors on the LHC.

[kiwigeo]

x degrees of separation.

One of my Italian cousins (along with about 150 other people) helped design two of the detectors on the LHC.

It's a huge project with a whole bunch of different nationalities involved. It's cutting edge science, its pushing the envelope and I love it. It's a pity people like Einstein and Rutherford aren't around to see it all fire up and the results of the first experiments come in.

[Claw Hama]

The only excelorator I have is in my Jeep and the two of us have passed through many a black hole, at warp speed chasing pigs or going fishing. There is absolutly nothing to be afrade of unless your you're a fish or a pig.:burnt:

[kiwigeo]

Possible scenarios:

[AlexS]

I am already in a black hole.It's called Moomba.
It's definitely different.:rolleyes:
Many years ago, had troubles with a job at Innaminka. Didn't want to talk to Adelaide about it on the RFDS radio, so drove to Moomba in pouring rain - all I could see were the edges of the table drains. Got there & walked into the rec. hall, and there were blokes in bandages, blood everywhere, thought there must have been the mother of all blues. Turned out that four blokes were sitting next to a caravan playing cards, & another bloke inside, when a sudden storm hit (it had hit Innaminka too) and blew the van over on them.:oo:

Knew a bloke who had worked there, apparently when the boys got a bit bored, they'd have watch-throwing contest. Throw your watch against a wall, winner is the bloke whose watch keeps going the longest.

[BobL]

It's a huge project with a whole bunch of different nationalities involved. It's cutting edge science, its pushing the envelope and I love it. It's a pity people like Einstein and Rutherford aren't around to see it all fire up and the results of the first experiments come in.

LHC has an awesome continuous data generation rate of 1 Gb/s. This will be dwarfed by the SKA radio telescope, ~10 Tb/s for 50 years! and could even be located in WA if our loony state and fed govts ever get their acts together or it will go to South Africa.

[ss_11000]

this thing sounds cool:cool::2tsup:. but the best thing about it is; if anything new comes out of it - i wont have to learn about it cos it wont be confirmed and in the syllabus till after i'm finished yr 12 :D

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

Am I dead yet?

I'd really like to know whether I can start telling these monkeys on my back: "Sorry. Not my problem."

:rolleyes:

[Blocklayer]

So how much carbon does this thing get to the gallon?

Sounds like a bit of a globe warmer to me

Doesn't sound like it runs on a couple of AA Evereadys

I thought these days warming the globe was a big deal?

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[Phil Spencer]

They say that they might be able to prove the string theory and therefore the existence of parallel universes; wonder what I have been getting up to in these parallel universes? :? If I run into my self in a parallel universe will I disappear up my own black hole??:o:o:doh:

[switt775]

I wish I'd had more notice, I'd have arranged to work from home today.

I really don't relish facing the end of the world on a bus full of people I don't really know. Much rather do it at home with a glass of red in my hand and my wife sitting beside me.

Oh well maybe I can arrange to leave an hour early. The boss should understand. After all, the world doesn't end every day...

[kiwigeo]

So you think you suddenly stop learning at the end of year 12......???? Youre in for a big surprise.

Im 50 and still learning new things...



this thing sounds cool:cool::2tsup:. but the best thing about it is; if anything new comes out of it - i wont have to learn about it cos it wont be confirmed and in the syllabus till after i'm finished yr 12 :D

[Zed]

little sub atomic particles have been colliding for eons since the big bang started the whole shebang. whats the diff if some propeler head causes and measures a few of his own ? my point is that nature has been doing what these blokes wanna do forever so dont worry about it....

a black hole being caused by these guys is about as likely as an iron (FE) fueled star...

[chrisb691]

My daughter just pointed out the closer a body gets to a black hole the faster it goes and it approaches the speed of light, Einstein said that time is relevative the the faster a body goes time slows down, so we may never know as we approach time will slow down and we will never notice what's going on. :?:?:?:doh::?:C
And the faster you go, the heavier you get.


....and that probably explain why my wife's ar$$ is getting so big.

[kiwigeo]

Even if by some remote chance they manage to create a mini blackhole the thing is going to be miniscule and wont last more than a second or two.

If people want to get worried about exposure to subatomic particles then dont jump on a passenger jet or stop using your television.

[AlexS]

And the faster you go, the heavier you get.


No, the hurrier I go, the behinder I get.:rolleyes:

[RETIRED]

Guess what? I am still here or has the shift been into a parallel universe happened and I missed it?

[Waldo]

Am I dead yet?

I'd really like to know whether I can start telling these monkeys on my back: "Sorry. Not my problem."

:rolleyes:

A movie springs to mind, "Seven monkeys", wasn't a movie based on fact was it? :D

[Groggy]

Guess what? I am still here or has the shift been into a parallel universe happened and I missed it?Guess you couldn't find the big red button eh ? :p

[springwater]

What a way to go, if we did, I was sitting in a traffic jam:sad1:

[Phil Spencer]

Bugger !!!!!! :~:~:~:~:((:((:((:((

[springwater]

Bugger !!!!!! :~:~:~:~:((:((:((:((

ah, um, Phil...how is your life in general at the moment?

[pugwash]

I think it's a wonderful experiment. At the very least maybe we can use it to keep our beer cold.

[Phil Spencer]

ah, um, Phil...how is your life in general at the moment?
Apart from having to put up with belligerent and bombastic pain management doctors treating my wife its not to bad, :U
Imagine a sargent major on hormones having a bad dose of PMT and also having a bad day all rolled into one, would be a accurate description of these guys.

[Honorary Bloke]

I have studied this entire issue carefully and am of the opinion that it is a case of mass hysteria. It can't possible result in any kind of catastrophic . . . eerrkkkkk!! Arrgghh! ... blip.

[tea lady]

:oo: I heard them say last night that they shoot a partical round the 27km loop and it goes around 11,000 times per second. Cool huh!:cool: and pretty quick.:D

[JackoH]

Wait 'til they fire them in opposite directions!(We could still be destroyed. Pass the Grange please)

[Phil Spencer]

:oo: I heard them say last night that they shoot a partical round the 27km loop and it goes around 11,000 times per second. Cool huh!:cool: and pretty quick.:D

That's about as fast as my company car getting home on a Friday afternoon :cool:

[Waldo]

I think it's a wonderful experiment. At the very least maybe we can use it to keep our beer cold.

At $7,000,000,000 at least it should be used for some worthwhile thing :2tsup: rather than wasting money on some theory.

[Wongo]

Have Japan and NZ disappeared yet?

[Waldo]

Have Japan and NZ disappeared yet?

I was hoping that a part of the North American continent has disappeared. Maybe they need to put more juice into the tunnel when they next fire it up. :shrug:

[kiwigeo]

Bet you a case of 98 Grange the world doesnt get destroyed.

There are collisions between subatomic particles going on around you every day that release more energy than the collisions that will be going inside the LHC.


Wait 'til they fire them in opposite directions!(We could still be destroyed. Pass the Grange please)

[kiwigeo]

At $7,000,000,000 at least it should be used for some worthwhile thing :2tsup: rather than wasting money on some theory.

Next time you go for an MRI scan or pop into the nuclear medicine department of the hospital for your cancer treatment think for a few moments how all the technology around you was developed......it's all a direct product of nuclear physics experiments involving accelerators. One of the latest developments in nuclear medicine is MRI proton imaging.

In my job in the oil and gas exploration game we use subatomic particle generator based logging tools to tell us whether or not there is oil in a reservoir and other petrophysical properties of same. The latest neutron porosity tools have had their chemical neutron sources replaced with mintrons (electronic neutron generators). As well as generating a more powerful neutron beam the minitron can be turned on and off which makes the tool alot safer to handle at surface than a tool with a chemical source that must be loaded and unloaded from the tool.

There are countless other pieces of technology that we take for granted in our everyday life that have come about through experiments such as the CERN LHC.