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soundman
27th May 2008, 11:47 PM
With the various changes in particular the paypal thing and the no negative feedback to buyers, and the increasing fees.

how do the alternative on line auction sites rate.

oztion
bidmate
dola
bidsell
auctionbidz

who is using what and how do they work out.

cheers

old_picker
28th May 2008, 12:49 AM
quick look at all of these reveals very little in my areas of intrest
good to see tho
wonder if trading post might take up the idea

rodney
28th May 2008, 02:08 AM
what about www.etsy.com ?

They seem like a place for woodworkers.

Claw Hama
28th May 2008, 03:03 AM
I'll be looking around too, not too keen on the PayPal thing. My other half is always on about Greys online but I havn't had a good look yet. Had a look at Etsy but seemed more ditsy, sorry rodney. Few bowls and pens, ok for all the ink junkies.

kmthor
28th May 2008, 06:42 AM
you could look at trademe although there in New Zealand still worth a look

www.trademe.co.nz (http://www.trademe.co.nz)

km

echnidna
28th May 2008, 08:18 AM
Oztion's ok. Selling costs are much lower and they seem more ethical than crapbay
But none of the alternatives have the sheer volume of goods for sale or the number of buyers.

Trademe,
I look at sometimes but their style is odd. I keep watching it a bit as it is now owned by fairfax (or news limited) in oz. Been expecting to see some real competition for crapbay come out of the new owners but it hasn't happened yet.

Some of the other sites require registration just to browse, that deters me from even looking around so I expect other potential buyers are put off too.

echnidna
28th May 2008, 09:02 AM
I'd like a good workable alternative to Ebay.

But I'm not interested in trying to reinvent the wheel by just making a new auction site.

If people on every forum started to refer their members to a good ethical auction site, then we could all have a decent service.

Oztion is quite a good site,

So what does everyone think about actively promoting Oztion etc?

So I have also posted this same message here (http://theblokeyshed.com/forums/showthread.php?p=46692#post46692)

Fuzzie
28th May 2008, 11:05 AM
wonder if trading post might take up the idea

Sounds like Helstra was thinking the same thing.... tradingpost auctions (http://www.tradingpost.com.au/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Sensis-TradingPost-Site/en_AU/-/AUD/ViewShortLinkCategory-Start?CategoryName=GuidedTour)

echnidna
28th May 2008, 11:21 AM
If they do auctions they need to send their webpage designers to school to learn how to write faster loading webpages than trading post.
It might be ok on broadand but hopeless on isdn and dialup

DavidG
28th May 2008, 11:23 AM
OZtion is growing with more sellers posting here.
Dola is in ACT and are excellent for ex govi computer stuff

Gingermick
28th May 2008, 11:35 AM
Trading post are starting an auction site to take on ebay.
http://business.theage.com.au/sensis-erects-auction-block-with-special-appeal-20080527-2iqf.html

echnidna
28th May 2008, 11:48 AM
Telstra might be the one ter bust the ebay stranglehold.
They could whack all the trading posts in straight away and have such a huge range of things for sale that buyers will naturally come.

Trouble is I reckon telstra and ebay both have questionable ethics at least in my mind.

Fuzzie
28th May 2008, 11:53 AM
You'd think Telstra could at least get their own web sites working smoothly. I keep on getting resets trying to access Trading Post.... maybe they're just trying to annoy iinet users....

echnidna
28th May 2008, 12:50 PM
I try to avoid the trading post because its too slow.

dazzler
28th May 2008, 06:18 PM
I try to avoid the trading post because its too slow.

Slow to sell or slow website :?

FXST01
28th May 2008, 06:32 PM
Dola is in ACT and are excellent for ex govi computer stuff

and the occasional diamond in the rough :D

echnidna
28th May 2008, 06:50 PM
Slow to sell or slow website :?

very slow website

Ivan in Oz
28th May 2008, 07:01 PM
http://www.auctionsrus.com.au/aboutauctionsrus.html

Good for Queensland,
though I haven't used them myself.:?:?:?

zathras
28th May 2008, 09:13 PM
One advantage epay has always had over the trading post is once an item is sold, it is instantly marked as such on the site.

It is quite frustrating calling the phone number of a trading post listing to find the item has already been sold a day or so ago :-(

One would hope a revitalisation of the trading post would fix this major PITA.

echnidna
28th May 2008, 09:21 PM
do you honestly think telstra is capable of revitalising anything?

zathras
28th May 2008, 09:24 PM
do you honestly think telstra is capable of revitalising anything?

Of course they can, they have revitalised crappy service into a fine artform over several iterations :D

echnidna
28th May 2008, 09:30 PM
I supposed I must agree with that,
I had a reasonable dialup connection until the liney's came and did some lines work. after that dialup didn't work reliably

Barry_White
28th May 2008, 10:32 PM
I reckon Telstra site is the slowest site on the net so I don't think it is going to speed up in the near future. It has too much crap going on. You would think with the resources they have it would be the fastest around. Bigpond is no better.

Big Shed
28th May 2008, 10:36 PM
Telstra might be the one ter bust the ebay stranglehold.
They could whack all the trading posts in straight away and have such a huge range of things for sale that buyers will naturally come.

Trouble is I reckon telstra and ebay both have questionable ethics at least in my mind.

Are you accusing Telstra of having ethics?:rolleyes:

If they do the same job on their Epay killer as they did on Trading Post and Whereis, then I think I'll stay with Epay.

Anyway, like you said it would be like jumping from the frypan in to the fire!:oo:

Do you get the idea I don't like Telstra?:no:

soundman
29th May 2008, 12:22 AM
Hmmm I don't have great expectations of the trading post site.

If the way the existing trading post has gone is any indication it will be geared to commercial advertising and in particular cars boats & bikes.

I can remember when music and soun in the bris trading post went 4 pages.......its a bumper day now if it goes more than 2 collumns


I tried to list something in the trading post some time ago and the form was so finiky after it comming back 4 or 5 times not accepted I just gave up.

the sensis division of telstra is so out of touch and sales focused rather than customer focused i have no positive expectations of any of their products.

looks like it might be worth sticking some stuff up on oztion to see if it goes.

my listings on ebay are very slow.... like down 3/4 on my expectations.

I think a lot of my potential buyers do not have pay pal.

cheers