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Phil Spencer
27th May 2008, 05:35 PM
I had a consultant ring me the other day, a competitor was looking for some one to establish an office in Melbourne. I will talk to any one so I went along and listened to his and the competitor companies offer, the short story is at the meeting they offered me a salary increase of $25K plus a Soft roader (Ford Territory or the Holden equivilant), great I thought more money to buy wood and tools.

Any way when the contract came the money was less that was agreed it the interview and the vehicle was not what was agreed on either, they offered a ute couldn't put the wife's wheelchair in it. So I told them I did not want the job because they had changed the agreement at the interview.

Did I do the right thing? My thinking is a man's word is his bond and by reneging on a handshake agreement this company was not worth working for.

Even had them ring my wife begging her to get me to change my mind!

Wongo
27th May 2008, 05:44 PM
Of course you did.

jmk89
27th May 2008, 05:45 PM
Yes - if they can't be trusted to get it right at the beginning when they want you, they certainly can't be trusted to do the right thing once the honeymoon period is over.

echnidna
27th May 2008, 05:46 PM
If they're going to try to shortchange you at this point in time you obviously cant trust them.


I'd forget they even exist as dealing with untrustworthy people usually burns fingers somewhere along the line.

madrat
27th May 2008, 05:47 PM
:iagree:

Waldo
27th May 2008, 06:04 PM
:yes: I'd say you did the right thing, given they short changed you. But now you've put yourself in a better position if they want to come back and re-negotiate.

RufflyRustic
27th May 2008, 06:25 PM
Hi Phil

Yes, indeed I personally think you did the right thing.

cheers
Wendy

manoftalent
27th May 2008, 06:26 PM
companies like that are not worth your time, they are dangling a carrot in front of you .....its an old trick .....and only a fool would fall for it and deminish their own self worth in the proccess .....I would politely remind them of the handshake agreement and since they could not abide by it, then the deal is off, however if they wish to re-negotiate, then your terms are ....$30,000 raise, plus (vehicle of choice)....take it or leave it ...oh and you want it in writting....

you have nothing to loose , so you might as well raise the stakes, and show them you are worth something.

Calm
27th May 2008, 06:32 PM
I think you definetly did the right thing and no way would i renegotiate with them again.

If they tried to cheat you the first time what would stop them after you signed the contract - someone once said you should enjoy your work not regret the decisions you make to go there.

Cheers

bitingmidge
27th May 2008, 06:41 PM
Absolutely.

If that's the way they do business, could you work for them? Could you actually work like that too?

Good for you!

Cheers,

P
:2tsup:

Groggy
27th May 2008, 06:46 PM
No doubt about it, you did the right thing. BTW, if they knew about your wife's wheelchair when they changed the offer then my opinion of them would flatline.

AlexS
27th May 2008, 07:31 PM
Absolutely.

If that's the way they do business, could you work for them? Could you actually work like that too?

Good for you!

Cheers,

P
:2tsup:

This is the real point. Not only would they try to dud you again sooner or later, but they would expect you to descend to their level when dealing with others.

old_picker
27th May 2008, 07:53 PM
they are scumbags and don't worry, they will be out of business before too long.

dont even give them a second thought - if they call back to renegotiate tell em to get stuffed......

Bluegum
27th May 2008, 08:02 PM
Mate, I think your better off without them. good on you.

RufflyRustic
27th May 2008, 08:52 PM
Hang on a minute. They rang your wife to try to persuade her to change your mind!!!!! :arge::angfire::upset: Now that's LOW low low:no:

Batpig
27th May 2008, 09:05 PM
Even had them ring my wife begging her to get me to change my mind!

Dear Phil,

That's mental. Was that the Consultant or the Employer? (Consultants can often be mental. Common where part of the fee is some sort of commission pending success :cool:) Don't worry - you did the right thing.

Best Wishes,
Batpig.

Ashore
28th May 2008, 12:22 AM
Yep , all the way , your word is your bond and here a handshake is binding among aussie men ( and women) If they went back on the deal then they are not anyone you would want to deal with again, :no: my only advice is to ring back and ask to speak with whover rang your wife , face to face one on one in an open field, I would :((

rrich
28th May 2008, 01:39 PM
I was taught and I believe that when you give your word it is as binding as a signed contract.

I was once offered a job at a computer company that was a competitor to where I worked. Being a field employee I had a company car. (It's not all that great.) The new company's job was a home office job. (i.e. Almost no local travel) I was using the car as a bargaining chip to get a better offer. The hiring manager offered me a company car.

The offer letter comes in the post. I call the HR people and ask how me having a company car could be justified to the other people in the group. The HR people said that I would not be getting a company car. I explained that I knew that and that was why I was not accepting their offer. HR wanted to know why I thought that I was getting a company car. I explained that the hiring manager said that I would and that if the manager was being deceitful before I started working, how would he be after I was working.

I heard that the manager was let go about six weeks later. About a year later, the company went under and ceased to exist. :rolleyes:

Wild with Wood
28th May 2008, 01:52 PM
I think you should just forget about it.
I have have others do the same.

RETIRED
28th May 2008, 11:19 PM
Phoenix. there was no post of yours deleted in this thread except the last one.