Surprised no one posted on the summit?

[rod@plasterbrok]

Well was it a good thing? Or just a rubber stamp for some of the more controversial policies of the Rudd Government?

My view :(

Cheers Rod

[wheelinround]

Lets see the Prime Minister calls a Summit 6 months after being elected to find out what direction and how his pat should govern and what direction the whole of Australia should take.

He invites heads of corporations these people he already has contact with and gets lobbied from daily.


He invites the so called brains of the country those boffin's who already are doing government work for such as this informing his office daily.

He invites world renown movie stars etc

All who were to pay their own way :~
All to go head to head over a weekend and come up with idea's for the next 10 years of Rudd Labor governance.

So glad I can't be blamed.:U

The only part I saw worth any salt was the QC who stood up and demand that politician's should be made accountable for their governance with court action.

I forgot this bit its going to take him 6 months to wade through all the deliberations and then make a choice of which direction. At that time he'll have been in power 12 months and still Australia waits.

[Sebastiaan56]

A lot of it seemed pretty straightforward to me. Tax system is overcomplicated and needs simplifying, well that will shut down the tax industry. Australia as a republic, what... in the 21stC?!? Treaty with aboriginal people, Bill of Rights, etc. Id like to see some of the more off the wall ideas. Im sure the committee system would have killed them off. The larger the group the more conservative the behaviour.

He loves being PM doesnt he? world leaders, movie stars....

[ernknot]

Obviously Rudd and his mob can't think for themselves. If he keeps this up he will be Rudderless! Some of the "ideas" are left field and a bit nutty.
my worry is that some of the klutzes they picked don't even know how to wipe their butt. And this mania with Blanchette is a big worry. Is Rudd the Dad?

[Cruzi]

The only part I saw worth any salt was the QC who stood up and demand that politician's should be made accountable for their governance with court action.



Great idea, no-one will do anything if they even wanted to take the job in the first place.
:~

The big winners out of such a policy would be lawyers, fees galore as tax payer funded court cases dragged on , oh wait they suggested it.

[chrisrjones5456]

Not too many new or original ideas came out.

It will be interesting to revisit each of the ideas in 6 or 12 months time and see how many have been implemented.

[Waldo]

Surprised? Because it was a crock.

[Claw Hama]

Of ?????

[Claw Hama]

Hey thats not what I wrote!!

[Ashore]

Hawke did the same sort of thing if you remember , all that did was a wage freeze for all those who voted him in , looked good at the time, vision for the future etc etc, so dudd has tried to upvame and do the same.
Who will lose , the voters as usual , is there anyone here who dosen't think that they would have more to contribute to such a meating that an out of work actor , yet blanchett was chosen, why wern't you , not a big enough sponser of the party perhaps :no:

[rod@plasterbrok]

This about what I expected, loved the cartoon in the Australian with Rudd bent over with a shining light comming out his butt.

Just about sums him up.

[Cruzi]

Reminds me of a paper written waay back in the 1600's.
The gist of which goes like this (its very long):

Democracy only works until the people work out they can vote for what they want. What the people want and what is needed do not coincide, the system descends into anarchy until a totalitarian regime takes control which then starts the cycle back towards a democracy..............

[womble]

Reminds me of a paper written waay back in the 1600's.
The gist of which goes like this (its very long):

Democracy only works until the people work out they can vote for what they want. What the people want and what is needed do not coincide, the system descends into anarchy until a totalitarian regime takes control which then starts the cycle back towards a democracy..............

And I for one will be happy to be the benign dictator of the new republic of Australia, my rule shall be brutal yet fair :U

[Gingermick]

That's ok, fairly brutal it is

[jerryc]

In the main what has been written so far has been negative. Let's be positive about negativity. It makes you feel good and cost no brain power.

In the top layers of industry they have a thing called a symposium. Lots of powerful people get together and -- guess what they do? They talk. It's rated highly and they come back with lots of good ideas. Sound familiar?

Brendan Nelson even went on a listen to the people walk. Seems he might have thought it worth while. But as one young girl said on "Insiders" on Sunday morning. "You couldn't warm a pie on him.

Good management does gather ideas from the lower echelons. If people don't get recognition that they have some input to give they get demoralised. Might just be what has happened to the Libs.

To put the summit into perspective, even if only one or two ideas that are truly worthwhile surface it will have been a success.

I remember, years ago, visiting Ford Mo Co in England. the PR guy mentioned how useful the suggestion box was. "Lots of rubbish every day, but occasionally a really good idea comes up. A worker suggested we only put a top coat on one side of a car wheel. Wheel would still be fully protected. We saved a bundle on that."


Jerry

War does not decide who is right. War only decides who is left.

[Big Shed]

Some rumblings coming from some of the participants about "pre-ordained agenda"


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23584546-2702,00.html

[Waldo]

Some rumblings coming from some of the participants about "pre-ordained agenda"


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23584546-2702,00.html

Your link doesn't work mate, does now. :2tsup:

[Waldo]

Reading The Age article, it reinforces my original post and thoughts from the very start when this lovefest was mooted - a total crock.

(hopefully the Kev07 fan club will realise things aren't all as they appear to be)

:2tsup: for posting the link Big Shed.

[Gingermick]

Very un-spectacular.
It's an idea and there's nothing wrong with ideas.
Cost a couple of bob but a pittance compared to what's wasted daily in goverance.

[Toyboy]

Yep, just another love-fest. I must be really clever because I predicted that almost all the invitees would be either 'republicans' or Kev supporters. I was caught off-guard when actors were also invited.
Anyway, I was listening to ABC radio the other day and someone mentioned the consultation process that occurred during this get-together. Anyone who doesn't understand 'consultation' is in for a surprise because 'consultation' is the process of disseminating information and discussing same.
It is a fact that when one is consulted it means you are being advised of what is about to happen. Sure, one can have their say or voice an opinion on the subject, but it will happen regardless. It is merely the process of adoption that may be affected.
It's a shame that the people who are affected by 'policy' aren't permitted input into the decisions that are made. For example, most people are aware of the mythical global warming industry and want the government to deal with real issues. They want some tax relief and some even want stable employment without the government taxing businesses out of existence.
A democracy would be a good thing as well, but alas, we send soldiers overseas to fight for democracy in countries that have been at war with each other for centuries, or to wage "war on terrorism"?????????????
And friends wonder why SWMBO calls me Grumpy.:o
I think I feel better already.:D

[Colin Howkins]

Just love this little gem that is trotted out by polititians of all persuasions - Tax Refrom - read Taxation Increase.

Never has taxation gone down, they just move the deck chairs on the Titanic around, the overall take goes up, At various times various segments of the community may bear an unfair proportion of the tax bill but under the guise of tax reform they just moves it around a little bit to make those who think they are hard done by get a little relief until it is thier 'turn' again.

Some years ago a mate of mine had a beancounter that calculated that for every dollar of revenue his company generated somthing like about 75 cents ended up in a government tin by way of:

Company Tax
Payroll Tax
Concil Rates
Vehicle Registration
Sales Tax
Fuel Tax
Compulsory levies by state & federal governments
Stamp duties on contracts..etc etc etc Nothing much has changed today.

Tax Reform, Vison 2020 ............[I]Bah Humbug!!