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wookiebreath
1st April 2008, 12:08 AM
Hello,

I want to rework an outdoor BBQ area that I have.
Currently it only has a narrow door width entrance, and we find we rarely use it, as it's an awkward space that feels cramped.

What I would like to do is to remove one side and put a couple of simple steps in place, that will open the BBQ area up to the rest of the garden and make it a space we are more likely to use.

I am struggling to visualise how the steps will look.
They need to be perpendicular to the slope... so at one end we will likely only need one step and at the other we will need two.

Any thoughts on how this is done?

Thanks
Wook...



http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee298/wookiebreath/BBQ%20Area/01-BBQAreaOriginal.jpg

This is a photoshop edit - I've just removed the front balcony to get a feel for how it will look.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee298/wookiebreath/BBQ%20Area/02-BBQAreaMockUp-noSteps.jpg


This is a poor photoshop edit of how I imagine the steps will look.. I need some suggestions here :)

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee298/wookiebreath/BBQ%20Area/03-BBQAreaMockUpWithStairs.jpg

wookiebreath
16th April 2008, 06:03 PM
OK this post has been up for a while now without a response... I assuming that my original post was a little confusing.
Here is a simpler question

Q1: As a novice builder, would it be easier to build my steps with wood or pavers?

Burnsy
16th April 2008, 06:32 PM
I would say it is pretty much equal difficulty either way. Pavers give the advantage that you can run them into the lawn without worrying about that edge being continuosly wet. I think I would do them out of recycled red bricks. This would match in nicely with the colour of the gazebo. I would build it so that there was a header of bricks level with the deck as a border to the front of the deck so it looks like it is meant to be. So you do not step down off deck to brick, you step down off brick to brick.

Burnsy
16th April 2008, 06:58 PM
Here is a picture of a special feng shui enter the dragon set of steps I did at some weird house a few years ago (I swear it was some sort of 60 year old swingers retreat:no:). These ones had to be curved so as to not upset the dragon and there is no header at deck level as the steps don't run the full length of the deck. All built out of materials they had lying around on side - concrete pavers and recycled brick, actually turned out alright:o

If you cut away your left side and used the steps to retain, you could keep the same number of steps right across like I did here, kind of mirror image of this without the curved steps.

Buggermedumplings
16th April 2008, 09:59 PM
Why not build a small retaining wall on left side, then level out soil and build a normal set of steps?

Blu_Rock
17th April 2008, 07:47 AM
Alternatively, you could build a small retaining wall to the right, back fill till level with the lawn on the left and do away with the steps all together.

SilentButDeadly
17th April 2008, 12:28 PM
Or simply extend the pagoda with a triangular deck so that you step straight off the slope and onto the deck. Use the removed railing on the back of the triangle and whack a bench seat up against it so your family and guests can keep you company whilst you are cooking.....

wookiebreath
21st April 2008, 12:47 AM
Fantastic suggestions... thanks to all!

Due to the layout of the slope and the space available (the bit you can't see in the photo above) at this stage I'm thinking a combination of some of the above ideas might be a goer.....

The idea of a retaining wall and leveling out of the slope is definitely a good idea, (and certainly one that didn't spring into my head, so thanks again for the suggestions)...