Literal process for Bathroom reno - HELP!

[Manda]

We are about to embark on a complete bathroom reno (remove all fixtures and tiles).

We are intending to gut the room ourselves to save time and money - ok, maybe just money thinking about it!

My question is - what order does the process after gutting follow?

For instance - gut, patch, paint ...then...?? Tiler in before the plumber to do toilet (new addition to bathroom), shower and vanity? Or tiler after?

We are wanting to get a wall hung vanity too..so would getting a builder be advisable to hang this and mirrored cabinets (and if so..when in the process)?

Sorry, common sense does not seem to prevail at this time so would greatly appreciate any advice/suggestions.

Thanks in advance
Manda

[zacnelson]

I would recommend definitely getting the tiling done before getting the plumber to install your toilet and vanity unit etc. This is of course assuming that you are keeping everything (ie toilet etc) in the same locations they were previously in.

Does your bathroom have timber stud frames with plasterboard/cement sheet? Or is it solid brick? If it is a framed wall, I would recommend removing the plasterboard or cement sheet entirely instead of just trying to chip the old tiles off. Re-line the walls with villaboard.

What about the floor - is it on a slab, or a timber floor? If it's a slab remove the tiles, try to get all the old mortar etc off, then waterproof the floor and walls - (more detail about waterproofing can be provided later if necessary).

If you have a timber floor there will probably be cement sheet on top, with tiles stuck to that. I would suggest you remove the cement sheet AND the timber floorboards below, and re-line your floor with a 19mm thick cement sheet product called Scyon. That is ideal for this situation. Then waterproof, and apply tiles at the next stage.

Assuming a framed wall, when you remove the current wall cladding, it's a good idea to add some extra noggins (small horizontal pieces of wood between the studs) in the wall where the wall-hung vanity will be positioned. That will make it easier to mount the vanity.

Please feel free to ask further questions.

[zacnelson]

Oops, I just re-read your original post, and you mentioned that the toilet was a new addition - then you'll need the plumber to do the pipes etc for the toilet, before the walls and floors are installed and before the tiling is done.

[Manda]

Thank you!

This has given me quite a bit to ponder on...and seeing as I just decided to place the mirrored cabinets where the window currently is, your advice to replace all the plasterboard makes it all the easier (in theory anyway)!

Am thinking about having a window that runs across the top of the cabinets and down one side, possibly.

Cheers
Manda

[wonderplumb]

Choose all your PC items first! eg toilet, vanity, basin, tapware etc.
Get your plumber in to disconnect and remove tapware and show him what you need done.
Looking at your new fixtures and your plan of the bathroom he will then tell you what has to be moved, modified, altered etc.
Now you gut the place, tiles, wall sheeting (if of timber construction), floor tiles etc. etc.
Then your plumber comes back and does his thing which depending on the job could be moving some water points, installing mixer bodies, move waste points etc. (This is called the rough-in)
If you have a new bath the plumber will set that after the rough-in and before the walls are sheeted or rendered.
After this the walls are re-sheeted or rendered, depending on construction and then water-proofed.
Water-proofing done then the tilers come in and do their thing.
Then you paint the ceilings etc.
Then the plumber comes back and sets the toilet, fits the vanity, all your nice new tapware, you might be able to con him into fitting towel rails and toilet roll holders etc, and there you have your new bathroom.