Counter Sink tool

[UteMad]

I thought i would put this up for all who may be interested as i get numersous PM's wanting fastening tips and where to buy carbitool counter sink and pilot tools and questions like how deep do i drill etc..

This is a countersink from the states and whilst not as high a quality as the carbitool is probably a much better tool for the DIY as it pilots . countersinks and depth stops all in one and costs 30% less than a carbitool...

We put down 300LM of merbau with it yesterday and snapped 1 drill bit which i would say was just user error although the company says they last 300 screws.. we got way in excess of 1000 screws and still going..
The kit comes with 3 drill bits with an anti clog design for rapid hole drilling

I have put a link to an ebay Buy It Now which is not me and i don't vouch in any way for the seller but it shows the tool and provides an avenue to purchase one... The one you want for 10G stainless deck screws is #10

I hope this benefits those considering screwing down there deck

http://cgi.ebay.com/Smart-Bit-Drills-Countersinks-to-suit-10-g-screws-NEW_W0QQitemZ250221781141QQihZ015QQcategoryZ20600QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem

Cheers Utemad

[Dr - 307]

I'm pretty sure Macsim does one also Utemad.
I used the carbitool on the last deck which is really brilliant 'cause it cuts the countersink hole so easily but I thought I'd buy the type you pointed out because of the even countersink depth. I use those 10-12G SS screws so #10 will be fine especially going into TP joists.

Cheers,
Dr - 307.

[DJ’s Timber]

Macsim (http://www.macsim.com.au/News%20and%20Promotions/new_products.php) do in fact have this tool, they are the importers for it

[rhancock]

Heres a link (http://www.starbornindustries.com/smart-bit/learn_more/why_smartbit.html)to the manufacturer.

But how are they different to these (http://shop.sachys-robertson.com.au/cache/header-20public__0-0.html?cache=no)?

[Tubby2]

Heres a link (http://www.starbornindustries.com/smart-bit/learn_more/why_smartbit.html)to the manufacturer.

But how are they different to these (http://shop.sachys-robertson.com.au/cache/header-20public__0-0.html?cache=no)?

I think the difference is that the smart-bit ones will stop drilling when you get to a certain depth. They have a free-spinning spindle that stops you going any deeper so you have a perfect depth countersunk hole.


I..... although the company says they last 300 screws.. we got way in excess of 1000 screws and still going
+1
I used one of these and drilled over 1500 screws and still haven't broken one.

[rhancock]

Oh, yeah, ok, then - that's clever!

[UteMad]

Just thought this might serve as usefull info for some

I still like the carbi tool as its way faster but take some getting used too.. The other one is more idiot proof which is good though and is great for DIY cause once you have figured the carbitool out the deck will be done anyway also the smart-bit is 1/3 the price from my supplier at only 15 bucks



cheers utemad

[scooter]

Goodonya for the info, Utemad :2tsup:


Cheers..................Sean

[Dr - 307]

The carb-i-tool is definetely quick. When I finally start using the Smart Bit I've got a feeling I'll go back to the carb-i-tool.

Doc.

[Larry McCully]

I'll get to see that tomorrow

[fagersz]

The smart tool didn't work for me, because they did not provide a drill bit with the correct depth. My deck is hardwood and the square seated SS screws would break if the pilot hole was not to the full depth of the screw. The bits also have a flat side to lock in place in the smart bit making improvising with your own bits harder. I'm still smarting from the wasted $40.

I bought another one and still had problems finding the correct drill bit, but in the end it's one saving grace was the strength of the lock screw that holds the bit in place and I was able to get something that worked.

Regards
Zanne

[Dr - 307]

On the weekend I needed to counter sink some screws and my carb-i-tool was out of action 'cause I'd snapped the drill bit and was too lazy to fix the bastard because I had a USA brand spare counter sink tool. Well, I got frustrated with the US s**t and fixed the carb-i-tool finally and have to say that the carb-i-tool is the best. Cuts quick and clean with no fury merbau around the screw hole.
I'm still gonna get the smart bit (because I like new gadgets) but can see myself going back to the carb-i-tool.

Cheers,
Dr - 307.