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Daren
7th February 2008, 09:36 AM
Im thinking of painting my roof white to reflect some heat. is this a cost effective form of insulation? ie does it work. is it worth it?
What about reflective paint products like the powder you put in the paint (thermalite??) anyone had any experienc ewith those? :?
wdyte_dan
7th February 2008, 10:22 AM
http://www.insulpaint.com.au/ is one site I've looked at, never bought it.
Some pretty big claims not sure how effective it would be though.
echnidna
7th February 2008, 11:37 AM
light colour paints don't absorb any where near as much heat as dark paints but I don't know how to quantify it.
pharmaboy2
7th February 2008, 12:09 PM
hiya, just recently sprayed my roof white from green - the difference inside the roof space is quite significant, further it was a very noisy roof with banging amd whatever as the sun heated it up, and that is all gone now - so its certainly made a difference.
Kust made the effort to read a long whirlybird thread on another site, and the considered opinion of the best way to reduce roof space heat, is by sisalation foil under the iron, prfereably with an air gap - so if its not sisalated (mine isnt) then installing either over the top of the rafters or underneath them will do more than the insulated paint.
I have only ever heard of the insulated paint products been used on warehouses where the requirements are a whole lot different to ceiling spaces.
cheers
rodney
7th February 2008, 12:15 PM
A friend is renovating his parents house which has a flat concrete roof, he just recently painted the roof with a special insulation paint. The difference is amazing, I went over on a very hot day and you could lay your hand on the concrete and it felt cool to the touch.
The downside was the expense, he mentioned that it was about $300 per litre.
bfx
7th February 2008, 10:26 PM
I just finished painting the roof of my winery. It was colorbond Deep Ocean Blue and I painted it colorbond Shale Grey - which is an off white. The difference in the winery is significant. At least 2-3 degrees cooler.
Daren
12th February 2008, 05:57 PM
hiya, just recently sprayed my roof white from green - the difference inside the roof space is quite significant, further it was a very noisy roof with banging amd whatever as the sun heated it up, and that is all gone now - so its certainly made a difference.
Kust made the effort to read a long whirlybird thread on another site, and the considered opinion of the best way to reduce roof space heat, is by sisalation foil under the iron, prfereably with an air gap - so if its not sisalated (mine isnt) then installing either over the top of the rafters or underneath them will do more than the insulated paint.
I have only ever heard of the insulated paint products been used on warehouses where the requirements are a whole lot different to ceiling spaces.
cheers
hi pharmaboy, could you expand on sisalation ? ie what is it? or point me to the thread you were talking about.
thanks for the replies everyone.
pharmaboy2
12th February 2008, 07:30 PM
hi pharmaboy, could you expand on sisalation ? ie what is it? or point me to the thread you were talking about.
thanks for the replies everyone.
have a look here
http://www.envirotalk.com.au/forum/index.php?showforum=52
both the roof insulation and the whirlybirds thread - particluarly good discussion for queenslanders where heat is the major problem, whereas for us southerners, keeping heat in is our biggest energy user ;)
sisalation is just the blue and silver paper you see wrapped round houses and on rooves before cladding - it reflects heat
Daren
14th February 2008, 10:06 AM
have a look here
http://www.envirotalk.com.au/forum/index.php?showforum=52
both the roof insulation and the whirlybirds thread - particluarly good discussion for queenslanders where heat is the major problem, whereas for us southerners, keeping heat in is our biggest energy user ;)
sisalation is just the blue and silver paper you see wrapped round houses and on rooves before cladding - it reflects heat
wow, very interesting. thanks pharmaboy. I just read both of those threads.
so basically, to keep warm in winter = use batts
to keep cool in summer = paint your roof white
and install a thin layer of shiny silver stuff(RFL/sarking whatever u wanna call it) in the ceiling
So now, HOW to install the RFL? -
I'm replacing the ceiling in most of th house, so now Im going to staple some RFL in (somewhere??) I know there has to be an airgap of 25 mm above and below the RFL. I wonder if theres a particular brand or if the cheap stuff is just as effective. I wouldnt mind some more detail with regard to installation. Anyway, I'll have a look in the ceiling myself and continue the search :~
thanks again, :U
Sprog
14th February 2008, 02:48 PM
I wouldnt mind some more detail with regard to installation. Anyway, I'll have a look in the ceiling myself and continue the search
Info on Aircel and installation here
http://www.air-cell.com.au/index.aspx
micktb
19th March 2008, 06:55 PM
Hi best paint for roofs a product called energy star heat reflextive paint can knock out up to 30degrees c an more.Comes in 44 colours from light cream to charcoal i stock it an use it even products for exterior walls:o
madrat
20th March 2008, 10:58 AM
We recently had a problem with a roof leak. Had a couple of quotes as it appears as though there were about 25-40 broken tiles (some of which had been glued back together by previous owner ).
:doh:
First quote was $3700 cashy (additional $500 if we wanted a written quote, no receipt, no warranty - needless to say 'no interest' by us).
Second quote was $6500 :o. Funny though, the rep turned up with brand new shiny $50k car (with spinner rims), was dripping in gold jewellery (including the teeth).
We ended up getting a quote from Insulpaint which turned out to be pretty reasonable and cheaper than what we thought ($4800). Was told that a drop of 6-15 degrees was a normal outcome.
Apparently it blocks the heat from getting into your roof space and in Winter, it blocks the heat from getting from inside to out.
On top of this, originally we thought we would also be up for the expense of having to get insulation in the roof, but was advised we may not even need to go that far after the insulpaint is applied.
If it does all they say it does, we will have a winner on saving $$$
The only downfall, was our roof is charcoal in colour, but the darkest we could go was a medium shade of grey (guess that's logical with nature's effect vs colours etc). But a small compromise for what may be a saving in the long run. Especially if it works!!!
Time will tell.....we're getting it done in May.
micktb
20th March 2008, 11:41 AM
see if any one has energy star products:)
Ace
27th April 2008, 11:30 AM
Energy Star Heat Reflective Paints can also be purchased in Victoria. I also highly recommend this product. Can be used on most surfaces - tin, tiles, concrete and timber.
Contact - Astec Paints Victoria - 1300 789 686
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keepontruckin
2nd May 2008, 06:14 PM
Buy a couple of whirley wind things. They work a treat.