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RedRaven
14th January 2008, 05:48 PM
OK, this is a very newbie question set - brace yerselves! :wink:
1: I want to relocate a Hoover tumble drier thats mounted to a brick wall - what sort of fastener should I use to re-attach the wall mount plate to the wall?
2: I also have a single Ikea Faktum 60cmx70cm wall cabinet to put up on the same wall in the laundry - will simple green wall plugs + screws hold it up okay? It has two anchor points in the upper part of the cabinet - should I fix it at the bottom as well?
Mainly asking here because my local hardware guy isn't/doesn't seem that knowledgeable! (The local Mitre10 recommended metho for removing wall paper - water worked just fine :doh: )
I've drilled and screwed plenty of wall plugs around the home but nothing as heavy as the tumble drier (about 20 kilos) or a cabinet thats going to be full of odds and sods/detergents etc.
3: Is there any way to avoid drilling right on a brick/mortar join? Aaargh the drill goes awol and you end up with a wonky/much larger hole than intended. Less so with hammer action going. Or is it just suck it and see?
Still a learner, but enjoying it! :2tsup:
seriph1
14th January 2008, 06:02 PM
Hi Rick
My recommendation would be to avoid Mitre 10 and bunnies, at least for advice! :D:D
I think you will need ramset product called DYNABOLTS
http://www.ramset.com.au/public/Article/show.asp?ArticleID=1120&menuItemID=176&toplvlID=3&menuNo=4
there would be tonnes of these at both the abovementioned stores.....doubt your cabinet will pose any kind of problem at all, but the drier is heavier when empty and far heavier when full.....and it will vibrate so spring washers will be a must, at the very least.
seriph1
14th January 2008, 06:06 PM
regarding drilling .... I am not sure I follow, but will add this - I would never drill into mortar and expect any fixings to support any weight.....but i am old fashioned and enjoy drilling into masonry - if you mean, how to make sure the drill bit doesn't move around .... I guess you could drill through a piece of wood then hold the wood in place while drilling into the masonry....just a thought.
dazzler
14th January 2008, 06:43 PM
Hey
I always use these
http://www.ramset.com.au/public/Article/show.asp?ArticleID=1105&menuItemID=181&toplvlID=3&menuNo=0
that look like this
http://www.ramset.com.au/fileupload/product/ANKASCREw.jpg
as they are removable/relocatable and IMO a far better option than the workings of a Dynabolt style of thing.
Just drill (hammer drill) the hole the appropriate size (on packet or website) and then screw it in.
:2tsup:
cheers
dazzler
Burnsy
14th January 2008, 06:57 PM
Bruce, unless you have a new house - unlikely in Kalamunda, it is probably made of common bricks rather than the Fast wall rubbish used today that has no guts. I would put the dryer up using blue wall plugs and 55mm timber teck screws - 4 of them in a zig zag pattern along the mounting plate, that should ensure you dont hit a mortor joint in at least two of them. Chances are if it is a older house the butt joins on the bricks were fully buttered and would hold the dryer anyway if you did hit one.
I like to use plastic plugs or the larger ramset plugs as they absorb some vibration and in my opinon are less likely to work there way out. You need to make sure your hole is tight and not over drilled. Blue plugs take a 8mm hole but some drill bits seem to drill slightly larger either through operator error or slightly bent drill bits drilling oval holes. If you find the first blue plug is loose in the hole, try drilling a size down and seeing if you can coax it into that size.
Also, buy the logest blue plugs and use the entire length in the wall.
PS Don't listen to that old english guy in the local Bunnings, I have heard him give some decidely dodgy advice to more than one person. I nearly drove up there and lodged a complaint about him last week because of the way he spoke to my wife.
Cheers,
Mike
RedRaven
14th January 2008, 07:51 PM
Ah brilliant, cheers for the help guys! Ramsets it is.
Mike:
Who's Bruce? :p
You're right, I'm in a '72 vintage house with those brown-red textured bricks. The inside wall bricks are solid. Mortar seems to be full depth as you say.
I've met the Bunnings guy you spoke of - totally agree (although he does do decent paint mixing).
Burnsy
14th January 2008, 07:54 PM
Mike:
Who's Bruce? :p
Ooops, must have been thinking of two things at once again:doh:
dazzler
14th January 2008, 07:57 PM
Ooops, must have been thinking of two things at once again:doh:
But why were you thinking of Bruce :p
Burnsy
14th January 2008, 08:06 PM
But why were you thinking of Bruce :p
I think I glanced at the name Rick Burlow and Bruce is what came out of it, don't know where the e came from though:-