barned01
23rd November 2007, 02:54 PM
Hi guys, i have just come across this forum and thought "wow" this looks to be much better than the book i picked up from the library.
I am reading through all 16 pages of threads in this topic looking for what i am doing (currently i am up to page 5...i read slow :( ).
Anyway, to stop the dribbling, My GF and myself are currently renovating a home we just bought. It is a solid brick interior home so to my knowledge the walls are red brick internal, then covered in a render, then covered in a plaster. The render and plaster coats probably amount to about a centimetre's worth of thickness.
We have removed the skirtings and architraves along the bottom as they were old looking and hideaously painted and we intend to put new meranti skirtings down.
I am trying to look on the best, most practicable way to reseat the skirtings against the wall.
Unfortunately i don't have a camera so you will have to bear with me with some ms paint pictures.
The existing setup had the skirtings attached to the wall using chocks inserted into the gaps between the bricks on the bottom row where mortar wasn't put in. When the home was plastered it looks like they just went around these chocks. kind of something like this first picture
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q315/barned01/currentarrangement.jpg
i am trying to work out the best way to put the new ones back on.
From what i have read so far there looks like there is 3 ways.
1. reinstall as it was removed. This means i would have to remove the existing chocks in the wall (they would be quite useless to put another nail into). remaking new ones to be equally as tight and annoying to remove. mark the wall or floor with a light marker for me to indicate where the chocks are reinstall skirtings and hammer nails in the general vicinity of these chocks.
2. clear away a piece or render so i can see the brick completely. Attach a 9mm piece of wood to the brick (how? with masonary nails, spaghetti tube and screws, construction adhesive, dyna bolts etc.) this wood would be roughly the same thickness as the render. then when attaching the skirtings i can roughly aim for this piece of wood and also use a lighter guage nail, but a few more of them (to account for the lesser thickness in the wood)
3. plaster the wall fully behind so it is smooth from ceiling to floor and then use construction adhesive to secure into place.
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q315/barned01/skirtingboards.jpg
They all seem to have their pro's and cons, but i don't know which is the accepted way or the best way to do it.
1. is just replicating what was already done, it seems like a lot of work to make so many chocks, remove the existing ones and get them to wedg good so the don't fall out or come loose.
2. seems like the easiest way, the wood hight has to be less than the skirtings to avoid seeing it securing it might be a problem and becuse of the depth securing the skirtings to it might also be a problem, could be supplemented with adhesive.
3. looks to be easiest. simply repatch wall and glue into place. but my experience of glue i am concerned it would come away or bow or i would be contorting many a method to hold the skirt in place while i waited an eternity for the adhesive to set.
Obviously i don't plan to remove the skirtings down the track, but some of the rooms have power points in them so i might need to get behind them for some reason. as long as the skirtings stay reasonably intact when removed so they can be reused would be my main concern (imo i could fix the wall cheaper than replace the length of skirting). Can the adhesive be easily removed from the back of the skirting if this method was chosen?
are there any other methods i should be looking at, is there still a thread that has all this answered but i just haven't found that one yet? (i read a lot about wether to butt it to the ground or leave a gap though).
Cheers in advance for your help.
Regards
Damien
I am reading through all 16 pages of threads in this topic looking for what i am doing (currently i am up to page 5...i read slow :( ).
Anyway, to stop the dribbling, My GF and myself are currently renovating a home we just bought. It is a solid brick interior home so to my knowledge the walls are red brick internal, then covered in a render, then covered in a plaster. The render and plaster coats probably amount to about a centimetre's worth of thickness.
We have removed the skirtings and architraves along the bottom as they were old looking and hideaously painted and we intend to put new meranti skirtings down.
I am trying to look on the best, most practicable way to reseat the skirtings against the wall.
Unfortunately i don't have a camera so you will have to bear with me with some ms paint pictures.
The existing setup had the skirtings attached to the wall using chocks inserted into the gaps between the bricks on the bottom row where mortar wasn't put in. When the home was plastered it looks like they just went around these chocks. kind of something like this first picture
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q315/barned01/currentarrangement.jpg
i am trying to work out the best way to put the new ones back on.
From what i have read so far there looks like there is 3 ways.
1. reinstall as it was removed. This means i would have to remove the existing chocks in the wall (they would be quite useless to put another nail into). remaking new ones to be equally as tight and annoying to remove. mark the wall or floor with a light marker for me to indicate where the chocks are reinstall skirtings and hammer nails in the general vicinity of these chocks.
2. clear away a piece or render so i can see the brick completely. Attach a 9mm piece of wood to the brick (how? with masonary nails, spaghetti tube and screws, construction adhesive, dyna bolts etc.) this wood would be roughly the same thickness as the render. then when attaching the skirtings i can roughly aim for this piece of wood and also use a lighter guage nail, but a few more of them (to account for the lesser thickness in the wood)
3. plaster the wall fully behind so it is smooth from ceiling to floor and then use construction adhesive to secure into place.
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q315/barned01/skirtingboards.jpg
They all seem to have their pro's and cons, but i don't know which is the accepted way or the best way to do it.
1. is just replicating what was already done, it seems like a lot of work to make so many chocks, remove the existing ones and get them to wedg good so the don't fall out or come loose.
2. seems like the easiest way, the wood hight has to be less than the skirtings to avoid seeing it securing it might be a problem and becuse of the depth securing the skirtings to it might also be a problem, could be supplemented with adhesive.
3. looks to be easiest. simply repatch wall and glue into place. but my experience of glue i am concerned it would come away or bow or i would be contorting many a method to hold the skirt in place while i waited an eternity for the adhesive to set.
Obviously i don't plan to remove the skirtings down the track, but some of the rooms have power points in them so i might need to get behind them for some reason. as long as the skirtings stay reasonably intact when removed so they can be reused would be my main concern (imo i could fix the wall cheaper than replace the length of skirting). Can the adhesive be easily removed from the back of the skirting if this method was chosen?
are there any other methods i should be looking at, is there still a thread that has all this answered but i just haven't found that one yet? (i read a lot about wether to butt it to the ground or leave a gap though).
Cheers in advance for your help.
Regards
Damien