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Cornards
22nd November 2007, 04:33 PM
Can anyone tell me where I can purchase "Raw" Tung Oil - the one without resins?
:?

woodcutta
22nd November 2007, 05:44 PM
Cornards,

Maybe Ubeaut - not sure

or Howards Products - for sure
Tamworth

woodcutta

Baz
22nd November 2007, 07:24 PM
Conrad, I got some a while ago at 3-D paint shop in Belconnen.
Cheers
Barry

Woodencha
23rd November 2007, 03:23 AM
Cornards,
Porters used to sell it here in Queensland but haven't seen any in ages. What do you want to go using Tung Oil for though? There are plenty of other products that do the job and without making every living thing in a ten mile radius mad with horrid alergies.

Master Splinter
24th November 2007, 10:14 PM
Tung oil is quite a nice finish if you don't want your timber to look like plastic. Try Howard Products (http://www.howardproducts.com.au/) for pure tung oil, or you can get tung oil based finishes from most hardware stores (look for the flooring finishes - Feast Watson and Intergrain both have one).

I've never heard of anyone having an allergic reaction to straight Tung oil, but I suppose you might, if you are very nut sensitive "A mild dermatitis may occur with prolonged contact if individual is sensitive; possible nausea upon injestion." is what the MSDS states, unlike polyurethane which tends to be harmful or fatal if swallowed!

BrettC
27th November 2007, 08:28 PM
I ordered some pure tung oil from The Woodworks in Sydney last year from their website.

http://www.thewoodworks.com.au/site/browse.html&pg=1000777

MacS
29th November 2007, 08:53 PM
"Can anyone tell me where I can purchase "Raw" Tung Oil - the one without resins?"

It goes by the name China Wood Oil or 100% Pure Tung OIl. They are exactly the same oil except with different names. This product is food safe, do not add any solvents, must be used as is.

Both of these oils are "all resin" they contain no solvents.

woodhunt
22nd December 2007, 10:05 PM
I bought 1L from the hardware co. in annandale- $14

They buy in bulk and repackage for a few others so some stuff is fairly cheap.

First place I've seen 4L techniglue on the shelf...


Garth

rsser
23rd December 2007, 06:16 AM
There's a diff between 'pure' and 'raw' btw; if I could remember what it was I'd tell you :-

MacS
23rd December 2007, 10:59 AM
Pure Raw Linseed oil, is actually Flaxseed Oil, it is a very slow dying oil.

Boiled Linseed Oil contains a chemical drier, which causes this oil to polmerize (crosslink) and then cure.

Skew ChiDAMN!!
23rd December 2007, 11:02 AM
What with the price and scarcity of "pure" Tung Oil, you might find Rustin's Danish Oil an excellent substitute.

Unlike modern "Danishes" (which are basically just thinned down PolyU) it is good stuff: a Tung Oil base with metallic driers. :2tsup:

Being TO based it is a tad on the expensive side, although not as expensive as pure TO, :roll: and it's readily available. I've used both (long been a TO fan) and personally I can't see much difference in the end result between the two.

MacS
26th December 2007, 01:13 AM
In the end pure 100% Tung Oil is food safe, whereas, the Danish Oil is not.

Danish Oil will give you better protection, if thats what your looking after.

thumbsucker
26th December 2007, 11:03 AM
I have been very interested in pure Tung oil, as a non-toxic finish that posses no risk when being applied. A food safe finish, an oil finish that dries relatively quickly, that will not breed mould like linseed oil.

I have therefore bought many products labeled as pure Tung oil, China Wood Oil, and raw Tung oil in search of this holy grail. A couple of observations, are that all these tung oils smell different, why?

Because of additives, the most common additive is an adulteration like soya bean oil. You can smell (faint like vege oil not nutty) the fact that it has been watered down and it is also very runny, the best tung oil I have seen was are very viscous. I would not be surprised that heavy metal driers are added to compensate the drying time. This is done by the manufacture often in China to extend the product. I have found almost all tung oils sold in places like Bunnings, and paint stores. These sources of tung oil are totally disappointing. Do not waste you money on them.

The best tung oil I have used is the China Wood Oil by Constantia (http://www.constantia.com.au/) I was given a bottle by Tim from Bowerbird. This is premixed with orange solvent (I can smell the orange) to accelerate hardening just like the Howards Orange Tung (http://www.howardproducts.com.au/products/orange_tung_oil.htm) It dries in hours and gives a lovely mat finish.

I would love to try Tung Oil from Florida in the US were I believe it has been grown for the last decade as a measure of quality control.

MacS
26th December 2007, 11:20 AM
I have been very interested in pure Tung oil, as a non-toxic finish that posses no risk when being applied. A food safe finish, an oil finish that dries relatively quickly, that will not breed mould like linseed oil.

I have therefore bought many products labeled as pure Tung oil, China Wood Oil, and raw Tung oil in search of this holy grail. A couple of observations, are that all these tung oils smell different, why?

Because of additives, the most common additive is an adulteration like soya bean oil. You can smell (faint like vege oil not nutty) the fact that it has been watered down and it is also very runny, the best tung oil I have seen was are very viscous. I would not be surprised that heavy metal driers are added to compensate the drying time. This is done by the manufacture often in China to extend the product. I have found almost all tung oils sold in places like Bunnings, and paint stores. These sources of tung oil are totally disappointing. Do not waste you money on them.

The best tung oil I have used is the China Wood Oil by Constantia (http://www.constantia.com.au/) I was given a bottle by Tim from Bowerbird. This is premixed with orange solvent (I can smell the orange) to accelerate hardening just like the Howards Orange Tung (http://www.howardproducts.com.au/products/orange_tung_oil.htm) It dries in hours and gives a lovely mat finish.

I would love to try Tung Oil from Florida in the US were I believe it has been grown for the last decade as a measure of quality control.

Ask for a Material Safety Data Sheet, if it list any thing besides 100% Tung Oil, then it is not pure Tung OIl.

Florida has not produce Tung Oil in many years, the plantations were destroyed by a few hurricanes.

South America, now produces excellent Tung Oil, it is lighter in color then the China Tung Oil.

If it says, "100 % Pure Tung Oil" it will not contain any additives at all.

I hope this helps.

MacS

thumbsucker
26th December 2007, 09:43 PM
Florida has not produce Tung Oil in many years, the plantations were destroyed by a few hurricanes.

That is a real shame

As for Material Safety Data Sheet I will try it one day for a laugh tomorrow at my local paint shop, I just doubt any of the shops would even have anything like that on hand. Maybe they do never asked.

I have just seen so much pure tung oil come all shades, colors and scents and all of the worked differently I doubt that they were all pure tung oil. I doubt that I have ever seen the real stuff, it is almost like the holly grail of oils. :C

MacS
26th December 2007, 10:26 PM
If they sell it, they should have the data sheets on the product on hand.

Another way of checking the info now, is to use the "Internet" to do a few searches, you also could the Internet to e-mail the companies.

I do this all the time when I cannot get the right information about different products, sometimes you will find that other chemical companies will be storing the information for many other manufacturers and suppliers.

Give it a try, it might work for you.

MacS