Why was this done? (picture included)

[rileyp]

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4103/screenshot007tp6.png
I was looking at this house being built on the weekend and noticed this!
Does anyone here know how this came about?
I'm asking about the treated pine post and the hoop iron and the bits of pine
Is this a fast construction method?
Any advice much appreciated
Heres the pic!

[patty]

That is very strange I would love to see a bigger picture of the overall construction section it looks like an open hole with the dirt piled up beside it 150mm treated pine post with some metal strapping bracing, is that a masonry block beind it with lead flashing on top supporting a LVL beam Looks Bizzare to me wasn't Shonky brothers constructions was it? Have you any other pics

[rileyp]

heres another pic...
which is making me think steps perhaps?
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1256/screenshot008ht6.png (http://imageshack.us)

[Burnsy]

wasn't Shonky brothers constructions was it?

Looks dodgy to me, at first I though the 90x45 was temporary bracing but the hoop iron goes around and is attached to it. Pretty unlikely that the 90x45 would be H4 or higher so should not be in the ground like that.

Edit: Steps could be the answer but the 90x45in the ground is still dodgy. What do the rest of the house stumps look like?

[rileyp]

Im not dealing well with this forum!
The server seem a bit slow???
I post and then I repost beacaue my post arent coming up.
I guess I need to settle down a bit!
Ill be more patient and do better from now on!
Sorry for deleting the original thread Pat
The house seems very well buit overall. (then again Im a sparky so what do I know)
rileyp

[flynnsart]

My guess would be that it is temporary bracing to hold the round stumps in place whilst the cement sets. the upright 4x2 is there to screw the post to as the other stumps look to be cement. and the diagaonal is to hold the 4x2 steady. Yes and it does look like steps or a landing.

donna

[rileyp]

What do the rest of the house stumps look like?
Only the stumps on the external edges are like this on the north and south side of the building(paralell to the bearers) All internal stumps are as normal.I'm not sure if all external stumps are like this or just the ones near doors and I wont be going back to the house to find out as it is 150 km away now.
I originally thought this was a temporary measure to hold the bearer in place somehow while the stumps were concreted in but now I'm thinking steps...

[Wood Butcher]

Im not dealing well with this forum!
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Sorry for deleting the original thread Pat
The house seems very well buit overall. (then again Im a sparky so what do I know)
rileyp

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[Burnsy]

My guess would be that it is temporary bracing to hold the round stumps in place whilst the cement sets. the upright 4x2 is there to screw the post to as the other stumps look to be cement. and the diagaonal is to hold the 4x2 steady. Yes and it does look like steps or a landing.

donna
Probably right there and it is quite smart as it would be an easy way to initially level and then hold the stumps level during a pour. If you set all the stumps 10mm or so high you could easily level them all down to height with a big hammer before the pour as there would be some give in the hoop iron. They would then be nice and level on top to run your decking bearers off which is probably what they are for if they run down two sides of the house.

[DavidG]

So much for having an ant cap.
That has been nicely bypassed.

Looks jerry to me...

[rileyp]

I have this picture as well .
Notice in this pic the height of the concrete stump on the far left.
The 2 pine posts appear to be this height as well!
Perhaps a bearer is placed on top of the treated pine post for a deck and the vertical 90x35 piece is used to attach the weather board.
I think Donna wins a big congratulations!


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[Burnsy]

Just noticed another thing - the pad was not cleared, who wants that fire risk under their new timber house:oo:

[Larry McCully]

i think that it is not steps, He has used concrete piers everywhere else, i recon if they were a support , then he would have used concrete again. That opening does not look like a door opening but rather a window without the glass. I recon it is all a trick question, the stumps come out , and were put there to try and trick us all. tadar!!!!!!!

[rileyp]

Well its no trick on my behalf I just took a photo of what I saw and thought about how I could best work out why it was done.

[bpj1968]

Looks like a standard single timber door frame to me. Maybe didn't realise that 600 mm is too high for one step and decided to put in a deck as an after thought.

(Maybe not an afterthought, but SWMBO changed her mind and decided that now she does want a small deck after all!)

The treated pine post sitting on top of the foundation for the concrete stump and wrapped on to hold as good as possible. given taht the outer stump is concrete.

90x45 there to attach weatherboard. All defeats the ant cap.

[AndrewPatrol]

Could it be that 90 x 35 is treated pine ???????????? could it be that they are for the plinth boards and the round posts are for steps or deck as previously mentioned. I thought ant caps are only semi effective anyway, I'd imagine termites can build their mud tubes around quite easy.

[boban]

If you have a look the manner in which the 90x45 is fixed, you could only imagine it to be temporary. It has been used so that the post can be fixed at a certain height and plumb whilst the concrete has been placed.

The height of the posts indicates to me that a deck is to be placed there. I may be wrong, but we'll see. No chippie or builder would do that as a permanent structure.

[DvdHntr]

Treated only means they won't attack that piece of timber but it will still act as a bridge.