Flood's Spa-N-Deck on Door Sill??

[jaenschw]

Hi there,
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After spending a lot of time reading the many great posts on this forum, I have decided that I will purchase Flood's Spa-N-Deck to use on my 3 month old Merbau deck. I contacted Flood and they sent me out the instruction DVD so hopefully I have all the info to give it a go.

My question is; can I also use Spa-N-Deck on the bottom door sill (external door which my deck butts up to) or should I use something else? The door sill previously had some sort of stain on it which has faded away to nothing over the past 2 years. I cleaned the sill a few weeks ago with Oxalic acid so I think it’s ready for me to put something on it now. So is Spa-N-Deck good to use on the door sill or should I use something else like an exterior stain??

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated; I'm not very handy at all so I'm trying to learn about this stuff.<O:p

Thanks

<O:pWarwick</ST1:p

[jimj]

Warwick,

Spa&Deck is an exterior timber coating. It can be used on your door sill just like your deck. Obviously if your sill is a different species to your deck the same colour stain will look somewhat different. Personally I like the variations in different timbers with the same stain. From your message it appears that your sill is back to clean and bare timber. You can use the Spa&Deck when you do your decking.

Good luck,

Jim J www.restore-a-deck.com.au

[jaenschw]

Thanks for the reply Jim, much appreciated! Also, thanks for your previous posts about Spa-N-Deck, you definately convinced me to use the product and I'm looking forward to giving it a go and seeing the results.

Jim, I was in 2 minds whether to get Sedona or Cedar but I read in one of your previous posts that you prefer Cedar for Merbau. I'm pretty sure I will stick to Cedar but out of interest do you have a picture on your web site with Merbau done in Sedona so I can compare?

Thanks again for your help

Warwick

[jimj]

Sorry , I havn't coated a Merbau-Kwila deck in Sedona. I guess it comes down to personal preference. The best I can do is show you three decks on my website. If you got to the portfolio and look at the third picture. It is a full on sun exposed merbau deck that was 2 years old with Intergrain DWD. It was very badly damaged by the sun. The fourth deck is a brand new merbau deck left to weather for 4 months or so. As it was totally protected it didn't leach much over the 4 months. The owners hosed it weekly and I did a double sodium percarbonate cleaning and the tannins were as red as a squids ink. The 18th deck is a 2-3 year old deck again with DWD. All three were coated in cedar Spa&Deck. If you prefer a browner look then I would suggest Sedona. Wish I could be of more help.

JimJ www.restore-a-deck.com.au

[jimj]

Just remembered that Utemad did a great photo attachment of the various Spa&Deck colours on timber. Go to the archives and see if you can find it. wish I could tell how to find it but I am a complete computer gumby.

Jim J

[Spelunx]

Hey Jimj,


Sorry about the hijack, but I was wondering about the longevity of the Spa-n-deck? I need to do my jarrah deck deck soon, it is partly under cover, but partly exposed.

Have you been back to any of your jobs two or three years later? How do they look?

Cheers

Jayson.

[jimj]

Dear Spelunx,

I started Restore-a-Deck in Feb 06. Since then I have completed over 50+ recoatings. Some small, some big, some easy and many that were just plain physically hard. I havn't had a single call back from any of the customers and generally around 9 months after I finished I call them to see how it is going.Spa&Deck has been out for the past 5 years but it is only in the last 6 months that they have put a 2 year guarantee against cracking-peeling and I know it won't go black or blister. It is a 4 year on vertical surfaces. I visit many houses that have your scenario of half covered by roofing and half exposed. The covered section next to the house looks perfect after 3-4 years but as you move to the outside of the deck the coating fades to be a broken up mess as you get near the railing. All coating manufacturers will recommend that annual coating-maintenance MAY be needed-required. From what I can see the sun is by far the greatest destroyer of coating products then to a lessor extent rain,potplants,skateboards,the metal ring on the bottom of BBQ gas cylinders. I install 3 coats always but recommend to put a fourth coat on if the deck is in full sun with no protection. I teach the homeowner how to do this and even let them practice with me while I am doing the earlier coating. In your case you can't do three on the protected area and 4 on the exposed as you will have a lap line. The benefit to doing 4 will be a little more uv protection. The downside is a little darker colour and a liitle more covering of the grain, a small amount of paint used and a small amount of time. In saying all of this the negatives I think or nothing in comparison to all of the effort that goes into preparing the deck. That is usually about 80% of the time that goes into the entire time. It comes down to a value judgement about how you want them to not only look but also be protected. In saying this I don't give them any false promise. I tell all of the people I work for that they need to be willing to have a look at the deck once a year and ascertain how it is looking. Spa&Deck dries with a nice satin sheen. Not glossy.Over time the sheen will just start to dull. As long as you do not allow the product to eventually weather back to bare timber you are OK. I generally feel you will almost certainly get 18 -20 months but I want them to think on a yearly basis of inspection.Sorry for the ramble but it is always seems to be two steps forward one step back. I can say that to the best of my knowledge Flood is the only manufacturer that has had the conviction to back up their product with a guarantee and their technical backup support is just exceptional. I have visited many houses where the people have had other brands of coatings fail prematurely only to be told by the company rep that we take no responsibilty for what our product does. One day(in my opinion only)something will outdo Flood Spa&Deck and it is sure to happen and when it does I will be using that product.

jimJ www.restore-a-deck.com.au

[jaenschw]

Just remembered that Utemad did a great photo attachment of the various Spa&Deck colours on timber. Go to the archives and see if you can find it. wish I could tell how to find it but I am a complete computer gumby.

Jim J


Thanks for your help Jim! I found the post you are referring to:

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=49270&page=2

Utemad shows all the colors available which is a great help!

[Spelunx]

Cheers Jimj...

I am convinced, once the handrail and ballusters are done, I will give it a go! :2tsup:

Cheers

Jayson.

[jaenschw]

Finally got around to applying Spa-N-Deck to my door sill. I applied Powerlift first, Spa-N-Deck Prep then Spa-N-Deck and it came up really well. I ended up buying Spa-N-Deck in Merbau which is a very nice color. Applying the three products to my door sill was a practice run I guess, I wanted to test the products out and gain practical experience in a smaller area before tacking my whole deck later this week.

:)

[jimj]

Great to hear that you have had success with the products. That should give you confidence when you tackle your deck. What you will truly enjoy is its longevity and ease when it comes to further recoating in time

regards,

Jimj www.restore-a-deck .com.au