How's your spelling?

[munruben]

so we hear and read the recent outcry about teachers not being able to spell all words in a test given to them, well how about yourself ? how is your spelling ? I honestly believe I could spell better when I was younger, now I find myself reaching for the dictionary more and more when I write a letter or email someone.
I even have my dictionary nearby when I am on this forum just to check my spelling. How many of you do that, be honest..
Don't know why I do that really cos haven't worked out it anyone can read in here yet.:D
I also have a few pet words that I always had difficulty with, like "Chauffeur" no matter how many times I spell it I always have to check it out, for some reason just can't remember how to spell it. Anyone else have trouble with a particular word.?

[silentC]

Well, I reckon my spelling is pretty good. The biggest problem I have of late is transposing letters when I type, missing a word that I meant to use, or using the wrong word altogether. I put these down to early symptoms of senility.

As for looking things up, yes I often look words up by Googling (get with the times, John). I also have a subscription to the on-line Macquarie so that I can check usage and spelling of certain words.

However, you learn something new every day. My daughter's homework had a section titled "Algorism". I was getting ready to blast the teacher for his appalling spelling, when I discovered that it actually is a word :-

For some reason, the word that gives me the most grief is separate. I always want to type seperate.

[Wongo]

My speling is OK. I usually type in MS word first then copy and paste here.

My one problem is sometimes I think of one word but type another work. See I did it again.:D

[munruben]

However, you learn something new every day. My daughter's homework had a section titled "Algorism". I was getting ready to blast the teacher for his appalling spelling, when I discovered that it actually is a word :-
Don't you hate that:D

[Gra]

My spelling is terrible, but it always has been, though most of my spelling mistakes come from my typing more than actual spelling errors, I know what I want to type, but type something else. I guess my fingers are dyslexic.

By the way who was the b@#% that decided dyslexic was a good word for that affliction.

[munruben]

My speling is OK. I usually type in MS word first then copy and paste here.

My one problem is sometimes I think of one word but type another work. See I did it again.:D
Yeah, I see what you meat, now you dot me doing it.:rolleyes:

[munruben]

My spelling is terrible, but it always has been, though most of my spelling mistakes come from my typing more than actual spelling errors, I know what I want to type, but type something else. I guess my fingers are dyslexic. No you got one of those keyboards like mine, it can't spell properly.:D


By the way who was the b@#% that decided dyslexic was a good word for that affliction.Thought that was a dish washer or washing machine.:)

[Sebastiaan56]

grate! arrrgh,... arrgghhhh

[silentC]

By the way who was the b@#% that decided dyslexic was a good word for that affliction.
The same guy who thought abbreviation was a good word for what it is.

[jmk89]

My favourite digital dyslexia example is one that afflicts my wife - whenevers she wants to type "consult", she gets the "l" and the "u" the wrong way around - not a good thing to suggest to 6 female colleagues that they all "conslut":D:D

[Gingermick]

So what is an Algorism then?

[silentC]

I had an email get knocked back by a spam filter once. Couldn't for the life of me work out why, until I saw I'd missed a key when typing "count".

Another one I always do is didn;t. And poeple.

[silentC]

So what is an Algorism then?
You can find out the same way I did (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorism).

[DavidG]

I spel quite well but the keyboard can sume time get it wrong. :roll:

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

Spelling? No problemo. On the other 'and, me typing can be atrocious and me punctuation 'n grammar's even 'orribler. :rolleyes:

[munruben]

Sometimes I find that I haven't had my fingers on the home keys of the keyboard. You know, index fingers on the "F" and "J" keys and when I look at the monitor after touch typing for a bit, its a load of jumbled up garbage.:)

[boban]

Everyone makes mistakes. The difference for some (like those in my horrible profession) is that you must proof read everything, or you will look like a dill at some stage. My first lesson was that:

"Dictate every letter as if if were going to be an annexure to an affidavit".

or put simply, like it was going to be read by a judge and others.

When Im on here though, I dont give a rats. I dont proof read as this is not meant to be work. If I get it wrong, then so what. Im in good company.

[munruben]

Everyone makes mistakes. The difference for some (like those in my horrible profession) is that you must proof read everything, or you will look like a dill at some stage. My first lesson was that:

"Dictate every letter as if if were going to be an annexure to an affidavit".

or put simply, like it was going to be read by a judge and others.

When Im on here though, I dont give a rats. I dont proof read as this is not meant to be work. If I get it wrong, then so what. Im in good company.
It must be very difficult under those circumstances.
It makes you think though, the typists of yesteryear ,must have been hard for them not having the luxury of the "backspace" key or the "Delete" key.

[silentC]

My first lesson was that:

"Dictate every letter as if if were going to be an annexure to an affidavit".


When Im on here though, I dont give a rats.

Intentional or not, that's funny :)

[Christopha]

Where, oh where, is Shane when a subject which is right up his alley rears its' pedantic head? ;)

[silentC]

There's no apostrophe in "its" and you put it in the wrong place anyway :p

[ss_11000]

http://www.badspelling.com/

simple couple of tests for you guys ^^

[K_S]

John

I don't make spelling mistakes -

I'm trying to change the English language to my standard instead.

Decided unanimously by a committee of one:D:D:D

[Christopha]

There's no apostrophe in "its" and you put it in the wrong place anyway :p
Was when I went to school, we had to practice carving apostrophes into our stone tablets.... :C
It's a pain when a spelling or grammatical problem rears its' head. ;)

[chrisp]

Have a look at WordWeb (http://wordweb.info/). I find it a fantastic program for quickly checking the spelling, and usage, of words. There is a free version that seems to just about cover all the words I've used, and for the occasional time it doesn't have the word in its dictionary, there is links to Wikipedia and Wiktionary.

It dose not pick up those annoying transpositions, though:)

[Groggy]

Ah, spelling...

I use a program called wordgenius, which is a ripper. www.wordgenius.com (http://www.wordgenius.com)

It has the Macquarie dictionary in it plus a thesaurus. I have an icon on the desktop that I can drag a word onto and it gives me this type of thing:

algorism
/'alguhrizuhm/.
noun
1. the Arabic system of arithmetical notation (with the figures 1, 2, 3, etc.).
2. the art of computation with the Arabic figures, one to nine, plus the zero; arithmetic.
3. Refer to algorithm.
[Middle English algorisme, from Old French, from Medieval Latin algorismus, from Arabic al Khwarizmi the native of Khwarizm Khiva (i.e. Abu Ja'far Mohammed ibn Musa, 9th-century Arab mathematician, author of a famous treatise on algebra translated into Medieval Latin)]

The program also provides the Macquarie to MSWord and the other office programs.

[wheelinround]

Using MS Word for spell checking is ok IF you have set it up to Spell English Australian. Otherwise words like Colour = color, there are many others can't recall them. Just thought of one Aluminuim = Aluminum

Me in 3rd class was when I first leaned I had dyslexia writting a composition on "What I did on Holiday" after writting it out 5 times I still got Boy and Dog as Doy & Bog.

I topped 6th class in a spelling B but that wasn't writing it.

I am no touch typist if i dont watch were my fat fingers go I end up hiting wrong keys, or my mind races ahead and I type letters making things ass about.

I have been a technical writer, and writer of tours and always checked my spelling.
The boss whom I was writing tours for borught in a Proof reader from UNI who I had to pend (see missed a key) spend a day going over her work as none of it made sense.

[woodbe]

There's no apostrophe in "its" and you put it in the wrong place anyway :p

Well, that depends.

As I understand it, the apostrophe is inserted to denote shortening of a word after concatenation (it is -> it's), or possession. In this case, I think we are dealing with posession, so shouldn't it be it's as in "[the subject] rears it's pedantic head" (the subject's pedantic head)?

woodbe.

[woodbe]

Just a ps.

My better half tells me that punctuation is being generally chucked out because it gets so complicated that most users of the English language apply it incorrectly. So maybe SilentC is right anyhow :)

woodbe

[echnidna]

(like those in my horrible profession)

Its time you looked after the inner man and considered another occupation.

You only live once so don't stuff yourself doing something you have come to dislike. :)

[silkwood]

There's no apostrophe in "its" and you put it in the wrong place anyway :p

Are you a member then? :wink:

http://www.apostrophe.fsnet.co.uk/

[MajorPanic]

Have a look at WordWeb (http://wordweb.info/). I find it a fantastic program for quickly checking the spelling, and usage, of words. There is a free version that seems to just about cover all the words I've used, and for the occasional time it doesn't have the word in its dictionary, there is links to Wikipedia and Wiktionary.

It dose not pick up those annoying transpositions, though:)Ah, the pro version will. :U :wink: :2tsup:

For FireFox 2 users you can still use SpellBound check HERE (http://webdesigns.ms11.net/chromeditp.html#spellbound) for version 2.2. They reckon it only works with the US dictionary but I use the AU & it's fine. :2tsup:

[Christopha]

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Now this is how I remember it... :)

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Now this is NOT how I remember it....

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But this IS how I remember it...

Hmmm.... methinks I am about apostrophastuffed!!!

[Honorary Bloke]

In this case, I think we are dealing with posession, so shouldn't it be it's as in "[the subject] rears it's pedantic head" (the subject's pedantic head)?

No.:)

[Jedo_03]

...
the subect's head was pedantically reared = possession = the head belonging to the subject

...
all of the subjects' heads were pedantically reared = possession = more than one subject

...
It's a rare subject that occasionally rears its pedantic head = It is a rare subject.... its = nominative pronoun (rare subject)...
(imagine trying to say 'It's a rare subject that occasionally rears a rare subject's pedantic head.")

"apostrophes" are NOT signalled when we talk - the assignation of possession, nominative pronoun, more than one subject, etc is signalled by the speaker and derived by the listener from the context of the message...
Its a rare subect and it occassionally rears its pedantic head but its not all that important. When its head is reared its generally by a proponent of the its versus its apostrophe purists and its only important to its supporters...

Anyway - spoken and written language are two entirely different codes - and decoding from one to the other is (on the one hand) the realm of linguistics (and yet) we all need to do it...
As Noam Chomsky argued:
"Curious green ideas sleep furiously."
AND - both spoken and written language are DYNAMIC...
Jedo
Masters, Linguistics
Not a purist

[Frank&Earnest]

However, you learn something new every day. My daughter's homework had a section titled "Algorism". I was getting ready to blast the teacher for his appalling spelling, when I discovered that it actually is a word :-.

Well, actually it was a word. I would politely suggest to that teacher that to resurrect an obsolete word last meaningfully used in Chaucer's times, when English already has a vast redundancy built into it by centuries of absorption from umpteen languages, has more to do with the teaching profession's tendency to self aggrandisement than the need to use the word in preference to the now inclusive "algorithm".



For some reason, the word that gives me the most grief is separate. I always want to type seperate.


Cheer up, at least you know which is which. Unlike the genius who "supervised" my master's thesis and "corrected" my spelling of that word.

[Frank&Earnest]

"Dictate every letter as if if were going to be an annexure to an affidavit".

or put simply, like it was going to be read by a judge and others.



Mate, after reading a gazillion of legal documents, I don't think that makes any difference. We are all human.:)

[ss_11000]

you all sound like english teachers and i dont like english teachers:D

[joe greiner]

I thought my spelling was almost perfect, until I did the quiz: 244 out of 250, although my dictionary lists an acceptable alternate spelling my way.

Random thoughts:

"It's" vs "its" seems to be to distinguish between the contraction and the possessive (had to look that one up), although isn't needed for others, so must be one of those oddball exceptions.

"Aluminium" vs "aluminum": I have a vague recollection of reading about the choice. "ium" conforms to all other metallic elements (sodium, calcium, etc.), but has five syllables, unlike maximum of four for all except later arrivals. Four syllables won in 'Murrica, conformance won in England.

Some word processors (IIRC) had/have a one-button command to swap adjacent letters for correction. Also to correct accidentally capitalized second letter, caused by late release of the shift key.

"Z", "c", and "s" near the end of the word, e.g. "exercise" vs "exercize", and "defence" vs "defense": This one makes no sense at all, although there might be a rule regarding adjacent vowels - two rules, actually, depending on your location.

"Metre" vs "meter" and such: No idea at all. Although we have a few usages of "centre", as in "Whatever Centre Apartments". An affectation here, totally highfalutin.

"Colour" vs "color" etc.: Ditto no idea, except maybe 'Murrica has a shortage of vowel supply and wishes to conserve.

George Bernard Shaw: "England and America are two countries separated by a common language."

Joe

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

As Noam Chomsky argued:
"Curious green ideas sleep furiously."

...but only when mysterious pink lizards harmonize silently. :p

[Iain]

My pet hates are 'eggs' intead of 'ex' in pronounciation eg: The body was eggs zumed from the grave.
Bloody media are good at this.
And when I received some application for stenographers they were shockers, one told me she had worked for a 'slister' for a couple of years, maybe it was Boban:wink:
And Joe G, do you go to the theatre or theater, maybe 'just take in a show' and play it safe :D

[Honorary Bloke]

I think it was Chomsky, too, who said that "everyone speaks his own language perfectly." He meant, of course, that everyone always knows exactly what they are trying to say, but the "listener" may not be able to translate properly. That's why the use of words is so important--we are attempting to make certain that the other party shares the same idea that we had when we said it. (Pay attention, Stirlo. That's why English is an important subject. :D )

[jmk89]

The other thing, Stirlo, is that few of the blokes on this forum are English teachers, and yet spelling and clear expression matter to us. HB has given the main reason - if we can all follow the same conventions in our language, it makes it so much easier to know what we each mean! The alternative is misunderstandings - and humans have a nasty habit of going to war and generally getting bent out of shape over misunderstandings!!!:oo:

[wheelinround]

Well Stirlo learning English is not the means of freedom to expression or conveying ones thoughts in word. Artisits, Artisans, photographers do this world wide without a single word through pictures, sculptures, crafts we do it with our woodwork.

"A Picture Speaks A Thousand Words"

The English Languish sorry Language is made up of thousands of Dane, French, German and other countries words derived from and converted to our modern day English. Which is still evolving for Australian's, we - sorry you now have your own dictionary.

We have in this world other langauges many which are not English, prior the English langauge we had Celtic, Latin,Dane, Norse, Pict, Sign well before that all one one small Isle. In Australia we have many dialects of natural Australian's we are only just seeing these being taught in some schools.

It is nice to see that should you become a teacher and then a politcian you can have the taxpayer fork out $33k for Chinese lessons only to then have them fork out a further $30k for Italian lessons for tuition.

FE's quote says it all


Well, actually it was a word. I would politely suggest to that teacher that to resurrect an obsolete word last meaningfully used in Chaucer's times, when English already has a vast redundancy built into it by centuries of absorption from umpteen languages, has more to do with the teaching profession's tendency to self aggrandisement than the need to use the word in preference to the now inclusive "algorithm".

Cheer up, at least you know which is which. Unlike the genius who "supervised" my master's thesis and "corrected" my spelling of that word.

aggrandisement = The act of increasing the wealth or prestige or power or scope of something.

I challenge anyone to read the Geordie English language (eeryone except a Geordie of course:;) I am sorry I have lost the ability to speak it although stick me in a room with one and I can still translate after 40+ yrs.

Roll on unisversal understanding

[woodbe]

No.:)

:2tsup: Ok, so my spelling is ok, but my punctuation is 'could try harder'

At least I don't space comma ,that drives me nuts :D

woodbe

[silentC]

its - it's - don't worry it gets me sometimes too. My mental rule is to replace the apostrophe with an i - it's itis it is.

I'm not surprised people have so much difficulty learning English. I sometimes use the wrong form of their/there/they're by mistake when I'm typing in a hurry.

[Gingermick]

Well, their you go, most people have there own difficulties with homophones.
Their over they're.

[munruben]

affect and effect always troubled me.
How about pore, poor, pour, paw. Must be difficult for someone trying to learn English.

[wheelinround]

pound and its meanings

even the word spell has different meanings "to spell" as is being discussed here
as to give a break what horses are having right now
to give or create, cast a spell

Mine = under ground type = belongs too
miner or is it minor

discombobulate

or the word on everyones lips many years ago supercalafragalisticexpealidotous look it up it had kids spelling world wide

[munruben]

Fat chance and slim chance. Isn't that confusing? Which one should we use.

[Christopha]

Just be patient or your lack of patience may see you become a patient which is patently a poor choice. I think.... maybe....

[silentC]

Fat chance and slim chance. Isn't that confusing? Which one should we use.
Slim chance means what it says. Fat chance is an example of irony. Like saying "that was easy" to your mate when he has just helped you lift a 200kg table saw off your trailer. :wink:

[munruben]

Slim chance means what it says. Fat chance is an example of irony. Like saying "that was easy" to your mate when he has just helped you lift a 200kg table saw off your trailer. :wink:I'll have to remember that.:)

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

its - it's - don't worry it gets me sometimes too. My mental rule is to replace the apostrophe with an i - it's itis it is.

'Tis not something I worry about. :D


Slim chance means what it says. Fat chance is an example of irony. Like saying "that was easy" to your mate when he has just helped you lift a 200kg table saw off your trailer. :wink:

Yeah. A slim chance describes the odds that he'll help you out next time... and "fat chance" is what he'll say if you ask 'im!

[Iain]

[QUOTE=Gingermick;590258]Well, their you go, most people have there own difficulties with homophones.
QUOTE]

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[Gingermick]

why didn't you highlight the other one?

[K_S]

affect and effect always troubled me.
How about pore, poor, pour, paw. Must be difficult for someone trying to learn English.

Especially because lingo lessons cost so much -
hard to do when your pore, or is it poor, or pour, or paw.:)

[Carry Pine]

.....and what does 'cleave' mean? Does it mean to chop in half like a meat cleaver or to join something together like a man cleaves to his wife?
Well it's both and thank goodness it's spelt the same way.

CP

[Jedo_03]

I challenge anyone to read the Geordie English language (eeryone except a Geordie of course:;) I am sorry I have lost the ability to speak it although stick me in a room with one and I can still translate after 40+ yrs.

Roll on unisversal understanding

whyyer bugga hinney... ivry whair y seem t gan y bumpinta a geordie...
s whairaboots didja yoosta kickya byuts off wen y waas a bairn?
cheers
Jedo
( a Mackem...)

[Honorary Bloke]

or the word on everyones lips many years ago supercalafragalisticexpealidotous look it up it had kids spelling world wide

I suggest you look it up too--misspelled. :p:p

[Wild Dingo]

Where, oh where, is Shane when a subject which is right up his alley rears its' pedantic head? ;)

:U:U Just found it Chris :;

Now my spelin is shockin whil me grama is uptashat as fo syntax I gets taxed enuf to not botha wif anuva... neva lernded to red cept wen I went ta bed id red a dikshunari to lern me words but neva culd lern tha meenins

Actually... when I learnt to read and write I had a fairly good teacher in an old shearer fella named Jim Durey who gave me a dictionary for a present one payday an a pencil an he took the time to "learnd me me numbas"... true fact! he couldnt speak clear for shyte but by god he was good with his numbas! cought the boss out cheating my pay cause I couldnt read or write

I got smarter over the years and ended up passing English in the mature age entrace top of the group for that year in the state... I can spell!!! Whacko!! and write? well I havent stopped since and refuse to be stopped... words are fascinating things!

Trouble is Ive no sence of grammar or syntax (and I still have no idea what that is) and paragraphs I put where ever I need a breath same with commas and full stops... he taught me my words the books I read tought me the rest (those old tuppenny cowboy books where my world for a long time on the station "larry and stretch" in particular) but I did improve and am still improving

I remember getting my first typewriter one of those ball top things from my granddad banging away like some demented arab on heat then the missus got stick of seeing the huge pile of paper with ONE mistake on the page thrown in the corner and got one of those fancy smansy brother electronic ones with an internal erasor!! MAN was I in heaven!! Id type the word and look at the little screen see a mistake hit the back button and whalla type again!! then I got technophile and got a computer... slow low memory but whahoooo Word Perfect was amazing!! and so I got bedderer

Now im gooder :2tsup:

me I just love words amazing things words brilliant astounding increadible things are words. :2tsup:

Trouble is I think when you come from the background I have come from with regards to reading and writing... writing in particular you either go silent and say very little for fear of making a mistake and being ridiculed just like you were before you could write... or you go absolutely TROPPO with it and never shut up!! :2tsup: :2tsup:

sigh me Im the silent quiet retirin type of fella... thats why yous mob rarely hear from me :;

[wheelinround]

I suggest you look it up too--misspelled. :p:p

I did checked it out on word web but hey it is US based spelling after all and that word drove teachers NUTS:2tsup::2tsup:

[wheelinround]

whyyer bugga hinney... ivry whair y seem t gan y bumpinta a geordie...
s whairaboots didja yoosta kickya byuts off wen y waas a bairn?
cheers
Jedo
( a Mackem...)

Now even tho I chat each week to cousin in Dipton/Delevs Lane we use proper english :D

But when she comes here I revert a little when my Uncle came out in the mid 80's (past on) I had to translate heaps for everyone.

Now lets see if I an do it


Why you bugger Honey? everywhere you seem to go you bump into a Geordie.

So where abouts did you Kick your boots off when you were/was a baby.:D

Jedo howd I do???:rolleyes: pass or what

Born Stanley lived Brunopfeild, went to Geenfields school, Southsheilds one set of grand parents Dipton the other Relos at Pikeside, Anfeild Plain, Highgate.

Wha bout ur sel wer hail from

:C:C brought tears to my eyes remembering my gandmothers cooking can even smell it after 40+ yrs fresh baked blackberry pies, cornedbeef pies, pasties, sausage rolls, minced tarts. this time of year she would be flat out preparing making christmas cakes and puds with generous amounts of alchohol.

[munruben]

Now my spelin is shockin whil me grama is uptashat as fo syntax I gets taxed enuf to not botha wif anuva... neva lernded to red cept wen I went ta bed id red a dikshunari to lern me words but neva culd lern tha meenins
Now yor torkin my langwich.:)

sigh me Im the silent quiet retirin type of fella... thats why yous mob rarely hear from me
Yeah and so shy :D

[silentC]

Bloody hell, the forum is being overrun by northern English gits. Bring back the seppos!

[wheelinround]

Just found it Chris :;

Now my spelin is shockin whil me grama is uptashat as fo syntax I gets taxed enuf to not botha wif anuva... neva lernded to red cept wen I went ta bed id red a dikshunari to lern me words but neva culd lern tha meenins

Actually... when I learnt to read and write I had a fairly good teacher in an old shearer fella named Jim Durey who gave me a dictionary for a present one payday an a pencil an he took the time to "learnd me me numbas"... true fact! he couldnt speak clear for shyte but by god he was good with his numbas! cought the boss out cheating my pay cause I couldnt read or write

I got smarter over the years and ended up passing English in the mature age entrace top of the group for that year in the state... I can spell!!! Whacko!! and write? well I havent stopped since and refuse to be stopped... words are fascinating things!

Trouble is Ive no sence of grammar or syntax (and I still have no idea what that is) and paragraphs I put where ever I need a breath same with commas and full stops... he taught me my words the books I read tought me the rest (those old tuppenny cowboy books where my world for a long time on the station "larry and stretch" in particular) but I did improve and am still improving

I remember getting my first typewriter one of those ball top things from my granddad banging away like some demented arab on heat then the missus got stick of seeing the huge pile of paper with ONE mistake on the page thrown in the corner and got one of those fancy smansy brother electronic ones with an internal erasor!! MAN was I in heaven!! Id type the word and look at the little screen see a mistake hit the back button and whalla type again!! then I got technophile and got a computer... slow low memory but whahoooo Word Perfect was amazing!! and so I got bedderer

Now im gooder

me I just love words amazing things words brilliant astounding increadible things are words.

Trouble is I think when you come from the background I have come from with regards to reading and writing... writing in particular you either go silent and say very little for fear of making a mistake and being ridiculed just like you were before you could write... or you go absolutely TROPPO with it and never shut up!! :2tsup: :2tsup:

sigh me Im the silent quiet retirin type of fella... thats why yous mob rarely hear from me :;


I had just this morning read your post on hinges which you reveal your past and leaning period. Hail the shearer who taught Ding/Shane for without out him here we would have nothing to aspire too. :2tsup: no offense.

Shane you must have been part Geordie northern Englishman they have their own dielect no wonder I can read and enjoy eveything you post.:D:D when growing up in OZ I had many a freind who was full 1/2 & 1/4 cast one became an Ozzy boxer Johnny Famishone (now that I can't recall how to spell) was his brother 1/2 brother. Got away from me that did so speaking pidgeon english I learned early in my years in Oz.

Funny how we recall things just thought when at primary school teacher hated stepped on got deep in to young johnny's brother over a week or so till one kid said hey Mr Teach you do realise who's brother your pickin on don'tchatya. Now teach was male and right into boxing matches ( he used to have the radio on in class listening to the fights) he said dont care if he's related to the Queen. Kid said well if the Queen can hit like Johhny fam then you'd better think twice:o:o:oo: Teacher near died.


Education comes in many ways ever listend to what a mute has to say or spoketo a deaf person.

[wheelinround]

Bloody hell, the forum is being overrun by northern English gits. Bring back the seppos!

To which this nothern English git replied First American president was one also.

[silentC]

George Washington? He was born in America! Might have been a git, but not a northern English one :)

[SPIRIT]

l think im the bestest speller on this forum :U

[munruben]

Now lets see if I an do it

Why you bugger Honey? everywhere you seem to go you bump into a Geordie.
So where abouts did you Kick your boots off when you were/was a baby.:D
Jedo howd I do???:rolleyes: pass or what
Wheelin' I think you are close but actually there could be two interpretations of the first line.

1. Where you bugger been? everywhere I seem to go I bump into a person from Newcastle upon Tyne. (Geordie being a person from Newcastle upon Tyne, England}

2. Where you bugger been? everywhere I seem to go I bump into a guinea (Scottish word for a guinea meaning a formerly used British gold coin worth one pound and five pence; a guinea)

Although # 1 above is probably closer to the meaning of the original sentence, the # 2 option would actually be more correct in real terms if we were to take it literally.

[silentC]

It's been said before, it's not how well you write, it's how well you get your message across. Spelling doesn't really matter that much I suppose, although I'd like to see standards improve a bit at school, I think you should learn the rules before you're allowed to forget them.

However, I do find some posters a bit hard to follow. Some people are probably much better oral communicators than they are authors and it shows in what they say, despite the spelling and punctuation. The problem is that forums like this are 99% about words. Yes a picture speaks a thousand words, but without words this forum would just be a photo album.

I think most people get their message across and you would be silly to dismiss people's advice or opinions just because their spelling sucks.

But by jeez some people are hard to follow!

:)

[wheelinround]

George Washington? He was born in America! Might have been a git, but not a northern English one :)


Not quite he was born and partly raised Nth UK this has been revieled in a number of shows I have seen of late and checked it up on the web.

[silentC]

John, those translations make no more sense than the original. And all the time I thought it only sounded like they were talking gibberish!

:wink:

[silentC]

Not quite he was born and partly raised Nth UK this has been revieled in a number of shows I have seen of late and checked it up on the web.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington


George Washington was born on February 22, 1732 (February 11, 1731, O.S.),[2] the first son of Augustine Washington and his second wife, Mary Ball Washington, on the family's Pope's Creek Estate near present-day Colonial Beach in Westmoreland County, Virginia.

So was his father and his grandfather. His great-grandfather was born in Essex.

[munruben]

George Washington? He was born in America! Might have been a git, but not a northern English one :)
Mary Ball Washington was born in Lancaster County, Virginia, in 1708 to Joseph Ball and Mary Montague Johnson Ball. Each of her parents had been previously married and had children by their previous marriages. The family home was Epping Forest. Her grandfather, William Ball, had been born in England and had immigrated to Virginia around 1650.

Thought you might be interested in this silent.:D

[wheelinround]

http://www.geordie.org.uk/

Where all that is great and good com from.

For without Gerodies Sydney would not have its Harbour Bridge the original spans The Tyne .

The greatest cartoon characters created came out of Gerodie land Andy cap, Dandy, and more.

Writters, poets, Why even Cpt sorry Lt Cook who discovered this fine land came from the region.

The land of Princes and Bishops where the books have yet to be returned http://www.lindisfarne.org.uk/

Then there is their fine ales none of which has past my lips for many years.

[SPIRIT]

l do have a great problem spelling and grammer and l was seen as stupid most of my life .until l started working and found out that l was just as smart as the next man sometime smarter .l was told not to worry about spelling just to get


(see l have got stuck on a word ,a simple word YOUR had to look it up ,sometime im not even close (GONE BLANK AGAIN so l just skip over the
word) (enuf) to find it in the dictionary




ideas down

sorry thats the way my brain works
its hard to read l know but it takes a lot of energy to wright and l loss my line of thinking

[silentC]

Mary Ball Washington was born in Lancaster County, Virginia, in 1708 to Joseph Ball and Mary Montague Johnson Ball. Each of her parents had been previously married and had children by their previous marriages. The family home was Epping Forest. Her grandfather, William Ball, had been born in England and had immigrated to Virginia around 1650.

Thought you might be interested in this silent.:D
Ball is my Mother's maiden name. D'ya think we might be related? :)

[munruben]

Ball is my Mother's maiden name. D'ya think we might be related? :) I think you might be :)

[wheelinround]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington


Yes I was incorrect :doh::; go figure


So was his father and his grandfather. His great-grandfather was born in Essex.

:rolleyes::rolleyes: So when Geroge Bush visted the home of UK's past Prime Minister recently and he pointed out that it was the birth place, I wonder where he got this information from.

But then like everything American's won the war finished the fight defeated the foe built it first.

[silentC]

l was seen as stupid most of my life .until l started working and found out that l was just as smart as the next man sometime smarter
My brother in law was treated that way at school. Eventually they diagnosed him with dyslexia. He is one of those people who is not academic in any way shape or form but can do just about anything he turns his hand to if he wants, same as his father (my father in law). Trouble is his writing and speech make people prejudge him, so getting a job can be hard because he even has trouble filling in forms.

I also have a friend who is illiterate - can't read or write other than to sign his name. But give him a welder and he is a magician. He also finds it hard to get a job because he is judged by his poor ability with language and writing. People think he is dumb too. Now he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed by a long stretch but he has a very keen mechanical mind and is capable of top work when they give him the chance.

I suppose this goes back to that discussion about IQ tests.

[silentC]

So when Geroge Bush visted the home of UK's past Prime Minister recently and he pointed out that it was the birth place, I wonder where he got this information from.
I have no idea what he might have been talking about - you know what GW Bush is like with mangling sentences. Maybe he was trying to say it was the birth place of democracy or something...

[SPIRIT]

My brother in law was treated that way at school. Eventually they diagnosed him with dyslexia. He is one of those people who is not academic in any way shape or form but can do just about anything he turns his hand to if he wants, same as his father (my father in law). Trouble is his writing and speech make people prejudge him, so getting a job can be hard because he even has trouble filling in forms.

I also have a friend who is illiterate - can't read or write other than to sign his name. But give him a welder and he is a magician. He also finds it hard to get a job because he is judged by his poor ability with language and writing. People think he is dumb too. Now he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed by a long stretch but he has a very keen mechanical mind and is capable of top work when they give him the chance.

I suppose this goes back to that discussion about IQ tests.my dyslexia is almost just the sound to letter link Language l sit well in the mix ,that how l landed a teaching job in high schools ,most people are surprised when they find out that im dyslexic,l don't tell many people l still like to hide it as much as l can.

[NCArcher]

For without Gerodies Sydney would not have its Harbour Bridge the original spans The Tyne .



I may be wrong and if you can be bothered doing the research feel free to contradict me but I think the Sydney Harbour bridge is the original. The same architect was used for both bridges. The Sydney bridge was started first but the Newcastle bridge was completed first due to it's much smaller size.

[munruben]

also have a friend who is illiterate - can't read or write other than to sign his name. But give him a welder and he is a magician. He also finds it hard to get a job because he is judged by his poor ability with language and writing. People think he is dumb too. Now he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed by a long stretch but he has a very keen mechanical mind and is capable of top work when they give him the chance..
Here here. It's about time would be employers, took into consideration peoples real capabilities and talents rather than judging them by a piece of paper which really doesn't give a clue as to the quality of work they can do. Whatever happened to the days when people were given a chance to prove what they could do by giving them a job and let their work speak for itself. I get so annoyed when here of someone who has been knocked back without being given the chance to show what they can do.
I did some property developing in Sydney and some of the best floor tiling work I had done was by a guy who didn't have any high qualifications but boy he could lay tiles like no other tiler I used before.

[silentC]

I may be wrong and if you can be bothered doing the research feel free to contradict me but I think the Sydney Harbour bridge is the original. The same architect was used for both bridges. The Sydney bridge was started first but the Newcastle bridge was completed first due to it's much smaller size.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyne_Bridge


The Tyne Bridge was designed by Mott, Hay and Anderson who based their design on the Sydney Harbour Bridge, which in turn derived its design from the Hell Gate Bridge in New York.

[wheelinround]

I have no idea what he might have been talking about - you know what GW Bush is like with mangling sentences. Maybe he was trying to say it was the birth place of democracy or something...

Guess I misslead you SC it was English Prime Minister who told Bush even showed him proof. There is refference to it on th net if I can find it I'll post it.

[wheelinround]

my dyslexia is almost just the sound to letter link Language l sit well in the mix ,that how l landed a teaching job in high schools ,most people are surprised when they find out that im dyslexic,l don't tell many people l still like to hide it as much as l can.

I am not surprise after what I found out I posted in another post regarding ADFA and an A++ grade officer who couldn't read doing Engineering but he passed every exam.

Go figure

[wheelinround]

I may be wrong and if you can be bothered doing the research feel free to contradict me but I think the Sydney Harbour bridge is the original. The same architect was used for both bridges. The Sydney bridge was started first but the Newcastle bridge was completed first due to it's much smaller size.


Done seems both were designed from Hells Gate in USA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyne_Bridge

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Harbour_Bridge

[wheelinround]

my appologies John seems we have HIJACKED this thread:doh: it wasn't intentional.:;:roll:

back to spelling swear its wear ware where

or what about weigh whey way

[Wild Dingo]

You have heard about polititians havent you wheelin?

They lie... they lie for various reasons and it should come as no surprise to any that one would lie to make an "impression" on another head of state :roll:

Note I dislike polititians intensely... but this is about spellin!! :doh:

I agree that one should be given "a go" before theyre judged... and unless youve not been wathcing the idiot box over the last several months theres been a couple of adds running about just this thing... a mob of wallys decide they need a job so they select a job on a cattle station and away they go turn up on site and the say "Come on mate we just want a go" and they get one... yeah okay uhuh that wouldnt happen in the real world... but the idea is that people should be given a fair go in the lucky country... in reality they arent... reality is unless you have a) experience b) references or c) the appropriate tickets or licenses you dont stand a gnats chance of getting a start let alone a go! that is the reality... and every year they bring in new tickets that you HAVE to have to get a start

Heck I found out the other day that for me to work on a construction site I need a green card well I think it was green anyway I needed to sit some ticket to work on a bloody construction site!! way it was explained to me was that its the same as the marcsta for the mining industry... what a bloody rip off that damned thing is!!

Anyways... spellin!! nah buggar it!! these topics are more funner :U

oooh and to settle the nationality thing... I am half Irish half Aboriginal... mum was half Aboriginal and half French sailor... her mum was full blood Aboriginal her dad half Aboriginal half white Australian station manager beyond that were full blood... thats it as far as I know... so no goardie in this little black duck mate!! :U

[Gingermick]

Here here. It's about time would be employers, took into consideration peoples real capabilities and talents rather than judging them by a piece of paper .

When you have 100 applicants for each job you would tend to go for the one that looks best on paper. But with unemployment not much above full employment and people hard to find, what your said will start o happen again.

[wheelinround]

You have heard about polititians havent you wheelin?

They lie... they lie for various reasons and it should come as no surprise to any that one would lie to make an "impression" on another head of state :roll:

Note I dislike polititians intensely... but this is about spellin!! :doh:

I agree that one should be given "a go" before theyre judged... and unless youve not been wathcing the idiot box over the last several months theres been a couple of adds running about just this thing... a mob of wallys decide they need a job so they select a job on a cattle station and away they go turn up on site and the say "Come on mate we just want a go" and they get one... yeah okay uhuh that wouldnt happen in the real world... but the idea is that people should be given a fair go in the lucky country... in reality they arent... reality is unless you have a) experience b) references or c) the appropriate tickets or licenses you dont stand a gnats chance of getting a start let alone a go! that is the reality... and every year they bring in new tickets that you HAVE to have to get a start

Heck I found out the other day that for me to work on a construction site I need a green card well I think it was green anyway I needed to sit some ticket to work on a bloody construction site!! way it was explained to me was that its the same as the marcsta for the mining industry... what a bloody rip off that damned thing is!!

Anyways... spellin!! nah buggar it!! these topics are more funner :U

oooh and to settle the nationality thing... I am half Irish half Aboriginal... mum was half Aboriginal and half French sailor... her mum was full blood Aboriginal her dad half Aboriginal half white Australian station manager beyond that were full blood... thats it as far as I know... so no goardie in this little black duck mate!! :U

Now it all makes sense Irish French and native no wonder half the blokes here can't unerstanya. No wonder sailings in your blood, and explosive background too.
N good thing Ding no tickets on you eh :;:;

Father must kissed the blarney stone once to often ding:D

[joe greiner]

Dunno about Oz, but here it's difficult to discharge someone after a trial that doesn't work out. Hence the need to be sure at the outset.

Nationality? About the closest I can shave it is European. Bit of a mess beyond that.

BUT, back to the spelling:
"ghoti" = fish.
"gh" as in rouGH;
"o" as in wOmen;
"ti" as in condiTIon.

Joe

[wheelinround]

Past passed & paced paste

wood timber lumber block all about the same thing

[munruben]

Waste and waist. Wonder and wander it just goes on.

[wheelinround]

Count numbers
Count Bassy

Part = you can have one be one do one