Security

[Gingermick]

Too much on google, but simplish question.
If I get hold of a few more cameras and place them strategically around my house (and sensor lights) is there a way I can record from all of them at the same time to a single computer?

[wheelinround]

:D why forgetting what you have done during the day
or is this to keep an eye on swmbo and make sure she isn't relaxing to often

[Gingermick]

No, to catch the mongrel bastard that slashed two tyres on gingerchicks car and one on my motorbike. Then a few weeks later came over while we were out and cut the cable for the sensor light, and just last night we were called by friends up the road and they said they saw someone in front of our house hiding behind trees.
I'm not going to jeopardise my chances of getting the pr!ck sent to jail for his cowardly attack on me and my house in april by breaking him in half. (Though I'm starting to get a bit angry with it. My anger management issue is that I dont get angry)

[wheelinround]

No, to catch the mongrel bastard that slashed two tyres on gingerchicks car and one on my motorbike. Then a few weeks later came over while we were out and cut the cable for the sensor light, and just last night we were called by friends up the road and they said they saw someone in front of our house hiding behind trees.
I'm not going to jeopardise my chances of getting the pr!ck sent to jail for his cowardly attack on me and my house in april by breaking him in half. (Though I'm starting to get a bit angry with it. My anger management issue is that I dont get angry)

:oo::o:~

Baseball bat time

auto raise nail machanisim in the grass straight through footwear or auto firing nail gun opperated by lazer sensors ok bit obvious I guess

it can be done Tricky Dicky has all you need sensors
as long as computer can handle it you should be right as long as he doesn't cut your power

[Christopha]

Move out of the lousy neighbourhood might be a good idea.....

[Gingermick]

Moving out would take months though. Lest we sell at a loss.
I'll head down to tricky dicky at lunch time and have a squizz

[echnidna]

have a look on ebay for security camera, you'll find a few systems that handle a few cameras at once.

also stick a few dummy cameras up in more obvious locations than your real cameras.

[Ashore]

oficeworks cary a fair stock, if there is one in Mackay

[Brown Dog]

to record several cameras at once to one storage device you need what is called a multiplexer or quad proccesor (if you only want 4 camera input)

here is an example off ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/YS-400-SECURITY-COLOUR-QUAD-PROCESSOR-SYSTEM-REMOTE_W0QQitemZ330161501895QQihZ014QQcategoryZ20589QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

cheers
BD:2tsup:

[pawnhead]

I don't know much about it, but I don't see why not. Check out Axis communications:
http://www.axis.com/
Here's a four way live webcam:
http://203.217.10.160/view/indexFrame.shtml
Perve on some people at work whilst panning and zooming around:
http://mephisto.progsoc.org/view/indexFrame.shtml
Somewhere else. :?
http://202.222.144.31/indexFrame.shtml?newstyle=One
Earthcam:
http://www.earthcam.com/
Check out the surf at your local beach with surfcam:
http://www.coastalwatch.com/camera/cameras_large.aspx?cam=3500&state=NSW&t=12:30:01%20PM (http://www.coastalwatch.com/camera/cameras_large.aspx?cam=3500&state=NSW&t=12:30:01%20PM)

edit: Or if you've got a spare couple of hundred grand, just a machine gun sentry robot (http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/samsung_develops_machine_gun_sentry_robot_costs_200k.php) :oo: Although there may be some legal implications with that one :D

[Sebastiaan56]

Perve on some people at work whilst panning and zooming around:http://mephisto.progsoc.org/view/indexFrame.shtml


must be noisy, they cover their faces every time it moves.......

happy APEC Day everyone!

[q9]

Pretty sure we used to install the Axis ones...quite good, they can be set to start recording when the detect motion - and they are very good at it. They record to a computer, or can be set to record to an offsite location. Only issue is ensuring they have power. Great product.

[bsrlee]

Jaycar also sell the various trick boxes - they are a good bit more savvy than Dick's mob, specially since Dick left.

They have multiplexers that record to PC or to their own hard drive or VCR-type tape. IR, motion detection, lipstick cameras, fake cameras..........

[DavidG]

Std PC camera card has 4 inputs
Program can handle 4 cards.
That equals 16 cameras each set to motion detection on selected areas.

If your computer can have 4 cards and handle the processing.

[Gingermick]

Thanks all,:2tsup:
Well I bought that multiplexer from ebay. Now to record (it doesn't have internal memory) I was thinking of getting a dvd recorder. That should work, shouldn't it?

[Big Shed]

Thanks all,:2tsup:
Well I bought that multiplexer from ebay. Now to record (it doesn't have internal memory) I was thinking of getting a dvd recorder. That should work, shouldn't it?

You would probably need one with a hard disk though.

[Gingermick]

yeah, 250GB or so

[Iain]

You can reduce the amount of hard drive required by reducing the camera speed.
They run between 5 and 30 fps, 10-15 will provide good resolution.
You can also set up the system to standby mode so it will only record when it senses activity in the field.
This function will also record 3 seconds prior to the event.
It is a simple system, it records continually and after 3 seconds will dump what has been recorded, as soon as there is activity the dump ceases.
This can be set to each camera or as a blanket cover so they all record.
By using these features you can minimise your total hard drive size.
Use a dedicated system, works better than trying to utilise your home PC, and have a DVD burner on board as this is acceptable as evidence if you wish to prosecute.
Make sure the system is date stamped for evidence.
40gig will provide about one month of recording 8 hours a day for four cameras at 10 fps.
Harvey NOrman had a dedicated hard drive with four cameras recently for $999, all cams were infra red (which are colour but B&W at night).

[Gingermick]

I've been over-ruled by gingerchick again. Looks like I have to return second camera and just put up a gate.
Thanks for all your advice.:2tsup:

[Wild Dingo]

I've been over-ruled by gingerchick again. Looks like I have to return second camera and just put up a gate.
Thanks for all your advice.:2tsup:

mmm... okay then install razor wire along the top or better yet make the gate from say 2in steel and epoxy broken glass along the top... out in the drive Id install a sensor pad like they got at the shops that opens the doors? that sorta thing but linked to rows of spaced say an inch an a half apart say 6in long THIN razor sharp spikes that lift up with force when the mats stepped on and retract instantly back under the mat :2tsup:

And Id get a bloody VISCIOUS mongrel cat... yep you heard me a bloody cat! get one of them Siamese things or the Burmese ones would be bedda... you got a carport? well get one! let the moggie live there they LOVE beams so make sure theres a couple of good sized ones... train the mongrel to dive bomb with claws outstretched anything that moves between sunset and sunrise (other than you an the missus of course) moggies are right cruel buggars... otherwise an ex security Doberman would do the trick... mmm will think of an automatic method of the dog "escaping" and returning so no one has a clue and now clues are left... well other than the shredded perp but thats okay we can live with that :;

And thats for starters!!

Me? Id move :2tsup:

[graemet]

mmm... okay then install razor wire along the top or better yet make the gate from say 2in steel and epoxy broken glass along the top... out in the drive Id install a sensor pad like they got at the shops that opens the doors? that sorta thing but linked to rows of spaced say an inch an a half apart say 6in long THIN razor sharp spikes that lift up with force when the mats stepped on and retract instantly back under the mat :2tsup:

And Id get a bloody VISCIOUS mongrel cat... yep you heard me a bloody cat! get one of them Siamese things or the Burmese ones would be bedda... you got a carport? well get one! let the moggie live there they LOVE beams so make sure theres a couple of good sized ones... train the mongrel to dive bomb with claws outstretched anything that moves between sunset and sunrise (other than you an the missus of course) moggies are right cruel buggars... otherwise an ex security Doberman would do the trick... mmm will think of an automatic method of the dog "escaping" and returning so no one has a clue and now clues are left... well other than the shredded perp but thats okay we can live with that :;

And thats for starters!!

Me? Id move :2tsup:

Geez Shane,
I'm glad I haven't strayed into your yard!
Cheers
Graeme

[Gingermick]

Well, I got a quad processor and another camera and it's all working sweet.
Grahame Collins (a local member) offered to fabricate and weld a gate for me, unfortunately the steel was out of reach. But I would just like to say to everyone here how grateful I am for the offer. What a lovely thing to do, Thank you Grahame. :2tsup::2tsup::2tsup::2tsup:

[Gingermick]

Might be time to move. He did it again. I'm gonna break his neck.

[HappyHammer]

OK Mick the obvious question, were the cameras running and if so did you get a picture of him?

HH.

[manoftalent]

ok this may help at a nominal cost for a while , but the last place I worked at we hired a security dog ...as long as the property is secure ( dog cant run off)......it would be a more viable option in the long run .....dog may get intruder .....intruder may think twice once dog is known to be around....dog will alert you of said intruder and ....well....maybe you could council intruder of their irritating ways etc ( this is a public forum, you know what I mean )...if intruder has vehicle, then a simple rego number is all you need ( most intruders have a getaway car nearby and are so stupid it probably belongs to them)....

if using security camera's I would buy an external hard drive and use it to store the vids and here is why

vids take an enormous amount of space, and if you dont want it and delete it .....this also leaves a large space on your drive ...most common file systems are ntfs and fat32 ..ntfs is more efficient than fat 32 but takes more space too .....fat 32 uses any nook and cranny to store info ..and this is where problems occur .....sometimes when deleting programs or info another part of a program or info may be shared with what you are deleting ...this is how some files become corrupt or lost ...it would be wiser to store important programs and info on an external disc and run them from there , also make a backup copy .....less ram used by "mother" pc and more efficient running .......deleting from the external and defraging wont cause any major damage and your pc will last longer .....externals are much cheaper to replace than main HD.

[Gingermick]

OK Mick the obvious question, were the cameras running and if so did you get a picture of him?

HH.

Unfortunately not. The light was unplugged:doh: But the coppers that came around were very confident they could charge him. The moron was parading himself around in front of them. They thought he was a tool and seemed very keen to make his life difficult.
Either way, he's not getting away with it. :((