Smoking

[TEEJAY]

Well I have heard of smoking fish and smoking grass even but never before heard of smoking timber - anyone here ever tried it???

[echnidna]

Its new on the block,
I suspect Glock might be able to supply it in future

[Lukey]

Why would you not just cut and then stain it?
I assume this process of smoking the wood throughout is a little bit expensive..

At the end of the day, it will have to be finished anyway.

[Sebastiaan56]

Not since I was a kid, but then I used to try everything,

[conwood]

I wonder if they use normal tallyho's

mmmm

[astrid]

hi
just noticed this old post
i think you mean fuming, french fume means smoke,
you do this by suspending piece over sawdust soaked with amonia.
google fume timber for details or if your interested i'll look it up in an old book i've got.

cheers
astrid

[MacS]

Astrid,

Found it in a search, I knew exactly where this article on "chemical fuming" was without having to look it up.

This article will get you familar wih the fuming processon on timber..

http://iswonline.com/ArticleLanding/tabid/67/Default.aspx?tid=2&heading=Fundamentals%20of%20Finishing&modid=520&ContentID=2079

Enjoy,

Mac S

[astrid]

thanks for the info,
this is not a job i would tackle in a large way sounds damaging to health:U
you can use this in a small way toage new brass. but you have to watch how long you suspend the piece or it will completly disolve the artical.

cheers
astrid

[MacS]

It has its place in finishing, those that do it, love it. Its very unique.

I recently completed an article on "fuming colors without fuming." It has not yet been published, but you can brush the ammonia directly on the wood, and then do some testing to adjust the color by either adding a second coat, using more or less ammonia to get the color you want for your work.
SAMPLES< SAMPLES< SAMPLES.

Remember, about the "tannin" in the woods, it will not be the same in all the woods you test.

Please, be extra careful if you decide to give it a go.

"YOUR ON YOUR OWN"

Mac S

[astrid]

thanks macs,
I've used amonia and peroxide to bleach baltic, (antique dealers request!)
and did it outside with a respirator on. not somthing I enjoyed.
what % amonia do you need to use?
can you use houshold amonia to fume by wiping on.?
in oz we need a licence to buy the more dangerous chemicals like nitric acid and pure ammonia.
still i'd like to give this a try.

astrid

[MacS]

Astrid,

1 - Use common household Ammonia (5%)

2 - Yes, you can either wipe or brush on, if you are going to brush on, use only a synthetic brush, any natural hair brush willbe eaten by the ammonia.

3 - Do not use those chemicals they are dangerous and can eat your woods if not used properly, use only regular househol ammonia.

4 - Follow all safety rules, wear protective gear, soak wiping cloth into water bucket, only do this in a safe area outdoors.

Astrid,

Attatched, is a photo that goes with my unpublished article, you will see the colors that were created without fuming.

MacS

[astrid]

As I work alone and have kids I'm pretty careful what I allow in my shed.
I will try this next time i have a client that want a different look on a ordinary piece of furniture.
will let you know how I go.:U

astrid

[MacS]

Astrid,

Remember my mantra, samples, samples, samples.

We all learn from making up samples.

"a sample always starts the project"

Remember, the "dilution of color" in my article, that may be an asset in this case, make up a few colors by diluting the ammonia.(be sure you keep your formulary and your finished samples)

Good Luck

MacS