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Sebastiaan56
20th August 2007, 08:59 AM
I thought about this as a poll, but who cares,

I went to one in 1977, Kings Cross, boring but to pessed to care. The supplier just kept feeding us beer,

Sebastiaan

johnc
20th August 2007, 09:23 AM
Never been to one, can't be bothered, never found the time, not drunk enough or in the company to end up at one. Who knows I am no wouser but could easily see the situation Rudd ended up in. Really who cares it's not a big deal, it's just between Rudd and his family and whoever floated this story should be help up for the muck raking scum:~ they really are.

John.

Gra
20th August 2007, 09:23 AM
Come on, he went out with a northern territory poli, a journalist and a union official. I would be surprised if it didn't end up in a strip club......

and yes i have been to one, bucks night, and the girls looked so bored I went home after 30 mins (Had to stick around for a little while to be polite)

Bleedin Thumb
20th August 2007, 09:23 AM
When I first moved to SinCity my first girlfriend was a bunny from the Bunny Club up the Cross.
I lived with a prostitute when I was 17 and used to make a good living selling paintings to the working girls in the Valley while I was still going to school.

So yeh, Ive been to a strip club.:) This was a former life mind you.:-

Howdya do that
20th August 2007, 09:45 AM
Hollywood on the Gold Coast:2tsup:

bitingmidge
20th August 2007, 09:46 AM
Who knows I am no wouser but could easily see the situation Rudd ended up in. Really who cares it's not a big deal, it's just between Rudd and his family and whoever floated this story should be help up for the muck raking scum:~ they really are.

Never been in one, don't find them at all attractive. Haven't met anyone that does that I would want to meet again.

I am a wowser, but being in a strip club doesn't make a bloke unfit for office.

Having said that, a politician is on the job 24 hours a day, and a certain standard of behaviour (impeccable) is required while on duty, particularly when the politician is a senior one representing ME and MY COUNTRY!

Being too Pizzed to remember what happened would get any one of the rest of us fired! If the incident happened as reported (and KR admits being out of it), and he was a footballer, he'd be suspended at least. If he was the CEO of a public company, he'd be lucky to still have his job.

As for muck raking scum, why did they cover it up for this long???

My thoughts on the press are well known, but don't we have a right to know? :rolleyes:

Cheers,

P

Zed
20th August 2007, 10:07 AM
:D i've been to a strip club, even been in a brothel. So what ? I've been pizzed too. so what ?

malcom frazer lost his strides once in las vagas ? he wasnt in office, neither was rudd.

All pollies, god botherers and journo's should be buried in a deep hole. :D

dazzler
20th August 2007, 10:11 AM
I just wanted to know how kevin got his big wooden cross through the front door :p

Sebastiaan56
20th August 2007, 10:26 AM
All pollies, god botherers and journo's should be buried in a deep hole.With a little building on top?

Sebastiaan

bitingmidge
20th August 2007, 11:15 AM
:D i've been to a strip club, even been in a brothel. So what ? I've been pizzed too. so what ?

malcom frazer lost his strides once in las vagas ? he wasnt in office, neither was rudd.

All pollies, god botherers and journo's should be buried in a deep hole. :D
Have you ever been in either of those states while on duty though?

Frazer wasn't in office. Rudd WAS. He was the opposition spokesman on foreign affairs. Maybe he doesn't actually speak Chinese, maybe the seppoes just thought he was! :D

Heaven forbid if he gets pie eyed and decides to invade New Zealand for a lark! It'd be ok, he'd apologise and tell us he couldn't remember a thing.

Even RJ Hawke gave up the stupid juice while in office as I recall. (probably not the girly clubs, but that's not the issue!)

Cheers,

P
:D (It's gonna be a great week, I can tell!):D

pawnhead
20th August 2007, 11:19 AM
He wasn't actually 'on duty' at the time though,,,,cough. (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22129486-2,00.html)

edit:

Even RJ Hawke gave up the stupid juice while in office as I recall. (probably not the girly clubs, but that's not the issue!)
He made the Guiness book of records at one time for the 'fastest sculling of a yard of beer'. Eleven seconds. :2tsup: Now that's a PM that I'd vote for. And anyone who'd sack him for that,,,,is a bum! hickup

wheelinround
20th August 2007, 11:20 AM
Lets look at this a different way even though this happened in 2003/4

1 He is at the time a Government employee on government business for the taxpayers of Australia.

2 It is a breach of government work policy for any employee to have consumed alchohol at work or during work related matters. He was at work even if OS.

3 If this was a normal employee he would have been either sacked or downgraded and reprimanded, like recent Telstra staff also government employee's

4 John Howard imbibes enjoys his beer also at your/our expense he also is breaching employee regualtions as do ALL politicians who consume alcohol at work. Something no worker is allowed to do for fear of casuing and making choices which may cause an injury or kill.

As for christians and grog gee's Christ turned water into wine (imagnine drinking water from back then like drinking out of the tank stream when the colony was started).

Communion is taken with wine, Christ drank wine recall the last supper.
Monks Nun's and Priest's are some of the worlds greatest makers of spirits (not the holy kind)

Look at all the religous orders world wide who have clubs Catholic Clubs, Protestant, Muslim ,Buhdist's and many others.

bitingmidge
20th August 2007, 11:21 AM
Many years ago I sold my half share of a business to six of my guys.

They decided to take me to lunch at a Gold Coast "table dancing club".

Being a completely disinterested self confessed wowser, and very busy, by (soon to be ex) partner and I, gave the blokes some dough, and told them to enjoy themselves, but we really had a lot to do, so have one for us.

The following day, they all arrived looking quite sheepish.

I wondered why, and asked how lunch went. "it was very crude" said one, at which I couldn't help but laugh out loud. How is it that one could go to a place where naked shielas danced on your table, and expect it to be genteel and refined?

Personally, I'd rather not have dandruff in my steak! :p

Cheers,

P
:D :D :D

Gingermick
20th August 2007, 11:25 AM
A mate shouted us in for his 21st and we hang around afterward and ended up getting pics taken with a few of the girls. Then my missus found them. Not been since, or ever likely to go again.

echnidna
20th August 2007, 11:29 AM
Nope,
Its been too cold down here fer me ter get me gear orf. :D

notenoughtoys
20th August 2007, 11:32 AM
yep, I have. When I was young and "curious". See no interest in it now but still not fussed that he went to one. BUT, he should have left it at that and said yep, sorry, caught out, big deal. What worries me is that he's putting his hand up to be the Prime Minister of the country and he say's publicly "I got that drunk i don't what I did or where I was" seems like the words of a follower, not a leader. :oo:

Wongo
20th August 2007, 11:35 AM
I just wanted to know how kevin got his big wooden cross through the front door :p

Well, it doesn't matter what you do. All you need is faith isn't it?
It is Faith vs Action and faith always wins.:2tsup:

I once went to a buddhist temple to pray for world peace but so what? I was drunk.

pawnhead
20th August 2007, 11:39 AM
2 It is a breach of government work policy for any employee to have consumed alchohol at work or during work related matters. He was at work even if OS.But he wasn't 'at work' at the time. :?

Certainly the public has an expectation of politicians to uphold certain standards, but unless you advocate total prohibition, and baning strip clubs altogether, then he wasn't breaking any laws.
So long as he hasn't made a habit of it, then he was just being an average Australian bloke who'd had a few too many at the time.

It kind of takes the edge off his 'Christian, family values' type image though.:U
That's all for the better I reckon. :2tsup:

Gra
20th August 2007, 11:50 AM
Heaven forbid if he gets pie eyed and decides to invade New Zealand for a lark! It'd be ok, he'd apologise and tell us he couldn't remember a thing.

Even RJ Hawke gave up the stupid juice while in office as I recall. (probably not the girly clubs, but that's not the issue!)

Cheers,

P
:D (It's gonna be a great week, I can tell!):D

Which Prime Minister admitted to entering Parliament Drunk????

The guy was off duty and on his own time.. his employer has no claim over him.

Wongo
20th August 2007, 12:00 PM
Drunkenness and sexual immorality are both a sin in the bible. In this case Rudd chooses a lesser offence. OK it I will give him the benefit of the doubt. :D

Didn’t he speak to his wife afterward? :2tsup:
“Hi honey, guess what? I am in a strip club. Just a second gorgeous, not I mean I’ve got to go, bye. ”:U

Wongo
20th August 2007, 12:04 PM
He now has a new adviser, Mr Bill Clinton.

“Repeat after me son, I did not have ……” :D

wheelinround
20th August 2007, 12:05 PM
But he wasn't 'at work' at the time. :?

Certainly the public has an expectation of politicians to uphold certain standards, but unless you advocate total prohibition, and baning strip clubs altogether, then he wasn't breaking any laws.
So long as he hasn't made a habit of it, then he was just being an average Australian bloke who'd had a few too many at the time.

It kind of takes the edge off his 'Christian, family values' type image though.:U
That's all for the better I reckon. :2tsup:

But we as general dogs bodies have to adhear to the laws anywhere in the world not just here.

At work we are not allowed to even turn up in some work places with a hangover. I used toi know boiler makers who were sent home after a grogy weekend and thats back in the 70's prior DUI and workcover & OH&S policies.

Ah so when a teacher takes your kids on an excersion they after 3 pm are off duty can do what they like. They are not to be held responsible for what goes on just think if they were Interstate or OS and did this.

All inn Favour of getting the APEC guys all phissd say I.
makes me wonder how much tax payers are forking out in grog for the APEC meetings and if this isn't sly way of saying its the Aussie thing to do. Get your visitors drunk.

RRFLMAO Bush already talks bad enough sobber.

bitingmidge
20th August 2007, 12:06 PM
The guy was off duty and on his own time..
Wrong! No such thing as off duty while travelling in an official capacity.


his employer has no claim over him.

Tell that to any football team. Two weeks ago, two ARU team members were disciplined after doing no wrong whatsoever, just appearing to do so.

How many times have off-field "antics" got the into strife. How much more is Shane Warne remembered for reckless handling of a SIM card? (If he'd been Indian he'd have been deported for that.)

With some jobs, comes an OBLIGATION to behave in a particular manner. Representing your country, whether in opposition or not, is one of those jobs. KR let us down. Maybe he could end up as our next John Kerr?

The religious debate is a nonsense and just clouds the issue.

Cheers,

P
:D

The Big O
20th August 2007, 12:10 PM
I went to one many many years ago and having bought the hostess six vodkas with orange, I observed she wasn't getting as drunk as me, so while she was absent, I tasted her drink and found it was just orange juice. So I went up to the bar and asked for the six shots of vodka to be put in the glass. The barman obliged stating "he must have forgot". The hostess skulled the glass and nearly choked. I ended up very soon after, mysteriously, at the bottom of the stairs. When I finally found my car, I noticed the headlights were still on. Say no more.

Zed
20th August 2007, 12:11 PM
big deal,

the bloke got and looked at a naked tart. ever wonder why ? he was probably trying to butter up (or suck up) to some other imbicile and decided to try the "common man" approach... who cares!!!!

The question that should be asked is: will this affect his ability to run the country should he become elected. Common sense says no, many pissheads have been heads of many states....

bugger what the bible sez re sin, we all know it was written by a bunch of dudes in ancient times who's prime drivers were/still are "how can we oppress the masses into subservience via a mechanism of us pretinding to be the imaginary friend's earthborne spokesman? Ahh.... lets write a bunch of contentious and confusing mishmash and say he upstairs wrote it"

If god wants us to believe he should provide every generation with a genuine miracle, and I dont mean the bunnies winning the GF this year but rather something irrefutable, lets say something like making the pope fly on international tv or hanging all terrorists by the left testicle in St Peters cathedral, or if u like parting the red sea for a month, or even popping into our direct conciosunesses and saying, "hey Midge, this is GOD Speaking... are you listening ?"

:rolleyes: :((

bitingmidge
20th August 2007, 12:18 PM
The question that should be asked is: will this affect his ability to run the country should he become elected. Common sense says no, many pissheads have been heads of many states....

So it's ok for him to run the country, as long as he doesn't drive me home afterwards. :rolleyes:

I've been to a few countries run by pissheads, and understand why a lot of the former inhabitants of them now choose to live here!!

"I just want to apologise for invading New Zealand, I had had a bit too much to drink and don't remember a thing!"

Cheers,

P

Grunt
20th August 2007, 12:23 PM
You don't have to be drunk to invade another country. Iraq?

Zed
20th August 2007, 12:26 PM
I've been to a few countries run by pissheads, and understand why a lot of the former inhabitants of them now choose to live here!!


Frazer, Hawke ? when u moving out Midge ?

Sculptured Box
20th August 2007, 12:27 PM
A few years ago with a couple of South African mates we went to a strip club in Toronto Canada, arriving there about 11am, the South Africans were real keen - I am not sure whether they had ever seen such delights before??

The upshot is that after numerous rounds of beer, a little food, lots of gyrating flesh I fell asleep!

Bleedin Thumb
20th August 2007, 12:31 PM
You don't have to be drunk to invade another country. Iraq?


Good coke works apparently...

Hey General, lets bomb the green bits after lunch.

Erm.. Mr President they're the rivers sir.

Oh..OK how bout these brown bits?

pawnhead
20th August 2007, 12:44 PM
Ah so when a teacher takes your kids on an excersion they after 3 pm are off duty can do what they like. They are not to be held responsible for what goes on just think if they were Interstate or OS and did this.Clutching at straws there aren't you?
How many times have off-field "antics" got the into strife. How much more is Shane Warne remembered for reckless handling of a SIM card? (If he'd been Indian he'd have been deported for that.)Perhaps in the court of public opinion, but so long as he's broken no laws, it should have no bearing on his selection as a cricketer. I for one am glad that we don't live with the archaic standards that pervade some other countries.
With some jobs, comes an OBLIGATION to behave in a particular manner. Representing your country, whether in opposition or not, is one of those jobs.Certainly, but this really seems like a storm in a teacup.

The religious debate is a nonsense and just clouds the issue. It certainly would be an issue to those who would vote for him because of his religious convictions, and it certainly is an issue when it's seen as hypocrisy on his part.

For mine, it just takes the edge off an otherwise undesirable trait.


Frazer, Hawke ? when u moving out Midge ?Don't forget about our Johnnie.

Of course some will judge him in the court of public opinion, where our pollies aren't permitted to be human.

Sebastiaan56
20th August 2007, 01:00 PM
Wrong! No such thing as off duty while travelling in an official capacity.

Tell that to any football team. Two weeks ago, two ARU team members were disciplined after doing no wrong whatsoever, just appearing to do so.

How many times have off-field "antics" got the into strife. How much more is Shane Warne remembered for reckless handling of a SIM card? (If he'd been Indian he'd have been deported for that.)

With some jobs, comes an OBLIGATION to behave in a particular manner. Representing your country, whether in opposition or not, is one of those jobs. KR let us down. Maybe he could end up as our next John Kerr?


My question is "when does someone like KR get off duty?" lets be honest he has the paparazzi after him 24/7 now at least until the election and then potentially for years unless he does a Johnny and gets so boring that no one is interested in his personal life. But it comes with the territiory. Bad luck fella, this is Australia, stick your poppy head up and kaboom......

As for did he do something wrong, that depends whether he inhaled or not, we will never know, there will be lies and spin all around. Im not moral enough to make a judgement, Im not sure that his opponents are either. What it does do is divert the media for a while,

Sebastiaan

jmk89
20th August 2007, 01:03 PM
Never been to a strip club and never really been tempted to do so, no matter how pi55ed i was at the time.

Isn't that part of the deal with booze - if you can't trust yourself not to do silly things when you drink, then you have to moderate your drinking. It's an individual decision for which you have to take individual responsibility.

The issue for KR is that:

his generally abstemious attitude to drink probably shows that he knows that he does silly things if he overdoes it, we all now know that he has a problem and may not act in character when he drinks
he has shown us that, even if he has resolved to avoid drink, he can lapse
we have to vote on the guy we are presented with - if he has a known disability when pi55ed, he needs to convince us that this was a slip from which he learned, otherwise how do we know that he won't do some off-duty drinking and then make some bad decisions that will affect us?

Grunt
20th August 2007, 01:05 PM
I'd be worried if there was a habit of getting drunk but as a one off, who gives a rats.

Had Shane Warne just had a couple of incidents over his time as a cricketer, it would have not been a problem. Warnie made a bit of a habit of it and it cost him the captaincy. Punter had a few incidents with alcohol before he was captain but said he had a problem and got better.

Wongo
20th August 2007, 01:36 PM
Midge, why do you want to invade NZ.:? Isn't it ours already?


:D

zelk
20th August 2007, 01:40 PM
I'd be worried if there was a habit of getting drunk but as a one off, who gives a rats.
.

What if Rudd secretly dreamed about going to a strip club, when he saw a window of opportunity he may have thought that he could go and justify it by blaming it on alcohol, but as you say who gives a rat rear end, it's political gutter tactics.:rolleyes:

Poppa
20th August 2007, 01:50 PM
I've been to plenty of strip clubs. And I've been both drunk and sober when I've been there. I find them a bit boring and sad these days, so I've stopped going, but I don't see anything too much wrong with it myself.

I think this whole furore is just ridiculous. For goodness sake. As long as Kevvie isn't spending my money when he's getting snake's hissed and stuffing my $20 notes down the front of a "lady's" knickers, I don't care what he does when he is off duty. And I do consider his nights when he isn't at official functions "off duty".

For my money there isn't anything wrong with it, and it isn't any of my business. The folks that think it is their business are the ones that worry me a lot more....

Ashore
20th August 2007, 02:34 PM
I too have been to plenty of strip clubs and strip shows , never been to one alone though. When you go ashore with a group you would often end up in a strip club, and only 6 months ago went to a lap dance club while I was attending my nephews buck show , so what, personally I found them boring watching females who were not in the least interested take their clothes off for a bunch of noisy , and in the most part drunk, men.
I would have been more worried about Rudd if he went there sober on his own wearing a trench coat :oo: .
I do find some comments here ammusing and wonder what would have been posted if it was Howard who had erred. :rolleyes:

Sebastiaan56
20th August 2007, 02:47 PM
I do find some comments here ammusing and wonder what would have been posted if it was Howard who had erred.

You mean he would finally have got a friend to go with :oo: or he had the interest left in him after doing it to Aus for the last 13years :wink:, virile puppy.....

AlexS
20th August 2007, 02:51 PM
Been to a few seedy strip joints in my younger days, but I have never, ever been anywhere with a politician or a journalist, so my conscience is clear.

And I've never danced in fishnet stockings, either.

Ashore
20th August 2007, 02:51 PM
You mean he would finally have got a friend to go with :oo: or he had the interest left in him after doing it to Aus for the last 13years :wink:, virile puppy.....
Yep thats one of them :no: :D

DavidG
20th August 2007, 03:08 PM
Could not give a rats ring.

If this is the best the smear machine can come up with then they are desperate.

SPIRIT
20th August 2007, 03:10 PM
no never been in one ,l have better at home :D

wheelinround
20th August 2007, 03:16 PM
I've been to plenty of strip clubs. And I've been both drunk and sober when I've been there. I find them a bit boring and sad these days, so I've stopped going, but I don't see anything too much wrong with it myself.

I think this whole furore is just ridiculous. For goodness sake. As long as Kevvie isn't spending my money when he's getting snake's hissed and stuffing my $20 notes down the front of a "lady's" knickers, I don't care what he does when he is off duty. And I do consider his nights when he isn't at official functions "off duty".

For my money there isn't anything wrong with it, and it isn't any of my business. The folks that think it is their business are the ones that worry me a lot more....


Got news for you he was/is a public payed person even back then so yes it was your money he was throwing around not just him but those with him the Union man aslo.

echnidna
20th August 2007, 03:17 PM
apparently the issue was raised by HE who wears fishnet stockings

pawnhead
20th August 2007, 03:24 PM
Got news for you he was/is a public payed person even back then so yes it was your money he was throwing around not just him but those with him the Union man aslo.I think they'd be making a much bigger deal of it if the money came from the public purse. Or does your boss get to tell you what to spend his money on after he's paid you with it?

Andy Mac
20th August 2007, 03:45 PM
Not a prude but I haven't been to one! Well maybe some unofficial versions...:rolleyes: They seems like an expensive exercise, and all a bit tawdry, like brothels. What's wrong that you can't get your jollies for free!?! :cool:



It certainly would be an issue to those who would vote for him because of his religious convictions, and it certainly is an issue when it's seen as hypocrisy on his part.

For mine, it just takes the edge off an otherwise undesirable trait.



:D:D Tend to agree, I've had enough of that holier-than-thou snake Abbot to think of it as a plus.


I think this whole furore is just ridiculous. For goodness sake. As long as Kevvie isn't spending my money when he's getting snake's hissed and stuffing my $20 notes down the front of a "lady's" knickers, I don't care what he does when he is off duty. And I do consider his nights when he isn't at official functions "off duty".

For my money there isn't anything wrong with it, and it isn't any of my business. The folks that think it is their business are the ones that worry me a lot more....

Poppa, I think that sums it up for me. Better back then than some time soon if he gets the job.

Cheers,

Sebastiaan56
20th August 2007, 03:51 PM
Or does your boss get to tell you what to spend his money on after he's paid you with it?

well.... ahem..... actually she does.......

wheelinround
20th August 2007, 04:10 PM
I think they'd be making a much bigger deal of it if the money came from the public purse. Or does your boss get to tell you what to spend his money on after he's paid you with it?

YEP government does this constantly telling me what I can do with my money old bosses also tried it like you need new tools go buy them new uniforms go buy them a hair cut go get one.

now only gov and LOML do.

bitingmidge
20th August 2007, 04:51 PM
Midge, why do you want to invade NZ.:? Isn't it ours already?
That's why I don't drink: in case I get the urge!

On a non-Kevvie note, another observation (standing on my holier than though soapbox) is that the blokes I have met who frequent those establishments, as opposed to the ones who've been to a bucks do or whatever, are often the ones who are overprotective of their own daughters.

There seems to me to be a certain hypocracy in their thought patterns, in that the exploitation of young women is OK as long as it's not their own. I'm not sure who's exploiting who BTW...:wink:

And on hypocracy, I think the most hypocrytical of all are those who judge a person (in this case Kevin) on what they think his private religious views mean to him. Now unless I'm mistaken, Kev hasn't actually ever said having the odd drink, or visiting a dance club, no matter how exotic that may be, is against the bounds of his religion. The only people who have done that are the ones who have made a judgement on what Kevins' religious understanding should be.

He has the same right to a religious belief that others have not to have one, and his interpretation of that belief is a matter for him, yet how quick is everyone to pounce!

Cheers,

P
:D :D :D

pawnhead
20th August 2007, 05:02 PM
He has the same right to a religious belief that others have not to have one, and his interpretation of that belief is a matter for him, yet how quick is everyone to pounce!Presumptuous of me to assume that his Christian morals, and family ethics would frown upon getting so drunk that he couldn't remember frequenting a strip club. Of course you're right, and it's probably just par for the course for his particular brand of Christianity.

Sorry about that. :-

Sebastiaan56
20th August 2007, 05:07 PM
I'm not sure who's exploiting who BTW...

Good point, Workchoices aside I believe there is good money to be made in that industry. We deal with a local establishment and according to the boss the girls can easily make $2k per week. The only really slow time is Ramadan,

I havent been in the media today but this morning Abbott refused to put the boot in, as did Costello, They are probably afriad that there may be something in their past as well. The old glass houses thing.

Great point about interpretation of religious belief,

Sebastiaan

Sturdee
20th August 2007, 05:14 PM
He has the same right to a religious belief that others have not to have one, and his interpretation of that belief is a matter for him, yet how quick is everyone to pounce!

Cheers,

P
:D :D :D

I don't think visiting a strip club or drinking is a sin, but even if it was, then he is in good company for the Bible teaches that all man are sinners and the church is for sinners. If he was without sin his name would not be KR but JC.

As to going to a strip club, when I was younger, I've been to a few and have known a few strippers as well as stripclub owners, so what.

Peter.

Gra
20th August 2007, 05:23 PM
the Bible teaches that all man are sinners and the church is for sinners.

So does that mean only sinners go to church????:U:U


Sorry just being mischievous.

Studley 2436
20th August 2007, 05:37 PM
Well Kev has been putting the story out there that he is such a pure trustworthy guy. Churchgoer and so on. He is the one who has made a thing of his own morality. Had Hawke done it no one would have noticed much after all that was the sort of thing he had done many times before.

I wonder if the sisterhood would let say Tony Abbot get away with it the way they have with Kev? I bet they wouldn't.

I have been to a strip club and didn't notice the girls that much got drunk with the guys. It was pretty boring really. There was one other time the girls from work took me and that was fun but at the same time I remember what happened even though I was drunk and did nothing to be ashamed of. The only time I have been so drunk I can remember nothing is the couple of times I was drinking and fell asleep. I am pretty sure they do remember something of what happened but want the story to go away.

The thing I noticed the day Rudd was made leader was that he always stood aside at the door and waved Julia Gillard in first. This does not look like a leader to me. His body language was not that of a man on a mission other than trying to pose as a super gentleman. My god I was thinking you are leader you go first take the bull by the horns demand Gillard to back you up. He looked a very submissive male to me that day. I am yet to be convinced he will make any sort of PM as he appears to desire nothing other than becoming PM. When it happens what will he do with it? I don't think he has any idea.

Studley

ozwinner
20th August 2007, 05:58 PM
Had a stripper come on site one time for some old dudes retirement, middle of winter, tihs it was cold.

Anyway she starts doing the biz in the half finished house, music blaring, neighbours watching curiously over the sheets of plaster board that were at the windows.

She come over to me and grabs my hands and whacks them on her bussies, Hmmm :B firm..but freakin freazing :o, I think they were frozen solid, or felt that way anyhow.

So the answer is no, the strip joint came to me..

Al :U

Skew ChiDAMN!!
20th August 2007, 06:11 PM
Been to a strip club? Yeah, many a time. I did some renos in one and on subsequent visits drinks were on the house, provided I didn't go overboard. Even with the door fee 'twas cheaper than the nearby pub, so that's where I went for lunch when I was in the area. Mind you, that place was basically a pub with a pink-bits decor, not a brothel under a different name.

I won't go to sleazies, whether it be pub or club. Not for any moral reasons, it's just that there are other places I'd rather be. :shrug:

There are people who don't distinguish between the two and I've no problems with that, if they have the moral strength to live by their beliefs. Hypocritical bastards with double standards, on the other hand... :no:

Bleedin Thumb
20th August 2007, 06:21 PM
I really love this "I went to a strip joint once and found it really boring"

Yeh like I smoked a joint once but didn't inhale.

Liar Liar Pants On Fire!


Come on guys (& girls).

Having a couple of young things gyrating in your face is not boring!

You either find it embarrassing, titillating or extremely amusing (or a mixture of all of the above)


It only gets boring after you have been to them a few times too many. If you find it boring on your first visit you had best check your pulse.:D

coastie
20th August 2007, 06:53 PM
This story was put about by that drunk that got up at some awards night,Glenn someone little bit like the pot calling the kettle black!:anoyd:

Studley 2436
20th August 2007, 07:24 PM
I really love this "I went to a strip joint once and found it really boring"

Yeh like I smoked a joint once but didn't inhale.

Liar Liar Pants On Fire!


Come on guys (& girls).

Having a couple of young things gyrating in your face is not boring!

You either find it embarrassing, titillating or extremely amusing (or a mixture of all of the above)


It only gets boring after you have been to them a few times too many. If you find it boring on your first visit you had best check your pulse.:D

nah we were a long way from the stage it was grand final night and my side had been belted again my seat was at a table where it was hard to turn and see the stage. Big big crowd couldn't see the show so there you go. I was a bit bored.

Studley

reeves
20th August 2007, 07:31 PM
yes once, Rogues disco in Springwood, Brisbane, after my brothers wedding with a group of mates.

There was an amateur strip contest won by a guy with cerebal palsy, very memorable event.

martrix
20th August 2007, 07:36 PM
yep, been to a few. Always bucks nights, its a must.:D

Sure they are pretty lame and you get over it pretty quick, but its pretty sweet getting a private lap dance from a smokin' chick! :U Do try it.

Fishnet stockinged Downer is the pathetic little dobber. I don't want to vote for either parties, they are both spineless.:~

Harry72
20th August 2007, 07:38 PM
:oIn a past life I was a stripper!

Gra
20th August 2007, 07:51 PM
I really love this "I went to a strip joint once and found it really boring"

Yeh like I smoked a joint once but didn't inhale.

Liar Liar Pants On Fire!


Come on guys (& girls).

Having a couple of young things gyrating in your face is not boring!

You either find it embarrassing, titillating or extremely amusing (or a mixture of all of the above)


It only gets boring after you have been to them a few times too many. If you find it boring on your first visit you had best check your pulse.:D

When the girl is so bored she yawns in the middle of the dance, its boring...

rgum
20th August 2007, 07:54 PM
I'm opening a club nxt week. Just finished painting, and putting up the poles.

Free beer to all on opening night. And red wine Too.
It's called Pollies pole dancing. :q

Master Splinter
20th August 2007, 07:59 PM
Wasn't a strip club, it was a pub with added entertainment. Met a friend there after work and we were having a calming drink when the night's entertainment started.

As we had only just started our drinks, it would have been against drinker's etiquette to scull and leave (that's my excuse, anyway). We were both gobsmacked :o when the first disrobing lady was someone who we both went to school with (and my friend had actually gone out with...you could just see that he was regretting dumping her).

We noticed that there was a big :2tsup: difference from the girl who used to get blowflies sneakily tied to her waist length hair by those annoying boys at the back of the class....:doh:

pawnhead
20th August 2007, 08:01 PM
I like the way ACA phrases their viewers polls like a loaded question:

Will KRs visit to a strip joint affect his chances of being elected?

You'd have to be an idiot to answer No. (although I'm sure that many will)

It's obvious that some people are going to change their minds about him and thus it will obviously affect his chances, but I reckon the majority will treat it as a non issue, and some such as me will see him as being more human, and more likeable because of it, yet they'll no doubt tout the fact that if there's a vast majority of no votes, it's damaged his reputation.

A more pertinent question would be; Will it affect your vote?
I'm sure they'd get a lot more 'No' votes if that were the question, but then they're obviously fishing for a big yes vote, even from the people who don't care, or who think better of him for it. You'd have to be brain dead to vote no to their question. :rolleyes:

Iain
20th August 2007, 08:04 PM
Spent a whole day in a brothel about 25 years ago, installing a card system to keep out unpaid members, insert card in slot, no money, no entry.
The girls didn't give a rats ring about us being there and we weren't offered any freebies, not that I regret it as I am allergic to penicillin:D
As for Kevin, I think it is good to find a human in politics.

Bleedin Thumb
20th August 2007, 08:07 PM
There was an amateur strip contest won by a guy with cerebal palsy, very memorable event.


I can only imagine... well I can't... but it sounded like a hoot of a night:D :D


When the girl is so bored she yawns in the middle of the dance, its boring...

You have to learn the language. The yawn means "put more money in the thong please":D

markharrison
20th August 2007, 08:20 PM
God there has been a lot of sanctimonious crap written about this.

If this wasn't at the public expense then it is none of the public's business.

After all there is a saying in Canberra that federal politics is about middle aged men discovering sex! Apparently the number of parked Comcars in Fyshwyck is of legendary proportions.

So far in this country we have avoided the hypocrisy that occurs in the UK and USA with their so called "sex scandals". I wouldn't care if this was Howard, or any other politician of any other flavour. It's none of my business.

mic-d
20th August 2007, 08:32 PM
I was taken to one once, but I never watched :wink:

Cheers
Michael

Gra
20th August 2007, 08:39 PM
insert card in slot, no money, no entry.

:oShould I comment here... HMMM better not:U:U


I was taken to one once, but I never watched :wink:

Cheers
Michael

Thats what they all say:U:U

Peter57
20th August 2007, 10:29 PM
So why is that everybody's so worried about something he did years ago? If it was newsworthy why didn't it make the papers at the time?
Why are people so judgemental about his beliefs. We all want somebody decent to run the country, we have fairly high standards for these guys (higher than we'd expect to be judged by). When the guy speaks about what's dear to him we criticise, when he makes a mistake, we criticise, when he holds firm we criticise.

He's a Christian, he doesn't ram his beliefs down our throats. Let's be a little charitable and let him get on with making a difference to Australia. He's the first decent opposition leader we've had for years, I don't know if he'll make PM, I don't even know if I'll vote for him. I do know he deserves a fair go and let's understand that he's only human.

Harry72
20th August 2007, 11:15 PM
:oIn a past life I was a stripper!
Oh come on not one bite!:cool: (sunglasses at night...:D )

Grunt
20th August 2007, 11:21 PM
Most of us a drinking large quantities of alcohol so we can forget the images you have placed in our brains.

bigAl
20th August 2007, 11:41 PM
Bunch of Puritans. Jeez, I've got a membership to one!

JeffG.
21st August 2007, 04:40 AM
Practically lived in them before being married. Had some great times, met a lot of wacky women. I did find that most dancers are somewhat screwed up mentally, but there were some extremely fun moments :2tsup:

Stu in Tokyo
21st August 2007, 06:12 AM
A place I used to work, had one about a block down the street. It was a pub, that had peelers (as we called them). They had a lunch time special, for $5 you got a nice BIG roast beef sandwich, side of fries, coleslaw, and a pickle, plus you could have a glass of beer, or a cup of coffee (I had to work, so I had the coffee). Seriously, that was the best, cheapest lunch around, but, the floor show was not always good for the appetite :doh:

Once I was sitting at a table, not close to the dance floor :rolleyes: reading a book eating my lunch, one of the peelers got so POed at me sitting there reading book during her "Show" she came over afterwards and gave me a piece of her mind, I felt bad, and gave it back, as she did not have much to spare :D

Seriously, unless you could rent the floor models on display, what's the point? :dunno:

Never did understand that one :huh:

Sebastiaan56
21st August 2007, 08:17 AM
Well the news is out, they only stayed 15 minutes (one beer?), didnt have a lap dancer and sat in the VIP. Question now is "is he a two pot screamer?", is he a wimp? a night in the big apple, a local guide, a territorian to drink with, should have been up for at least a six pack!........ each!!..............particularly the lolly water called US beer!

gotta love Warren this morning http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/gallery/0,22056,5005046-5006054,00.html

Sebastiaan

Honorary Bloke
21st August 2007, 08:29 AM
Err, umm, I have possibly been in one or two in my younger years. In five different countries, actually. :oo: Worst was in Mexico, U. S. was pretty bad, Germany was best. But even the best ones cause your mind to wander very quickly and decide how you are going to slide out without offending your companions. :wink:

Simomatra
21st August 2007, 09:04 AM
As a sailor I have been too plenty in my day

Cann't see what all the fuss is about if none of the other pollies have ever been then they should not that I am all impressed with them. That includes strip clubs and pollies

If that's all the dirt they can muster they better find another job

Bleedin Thumb
21st August 2007, 09:25 AM
:oIn a past life I was a stripper!


Harry are you available for the next WW get together?

I'm sure a pole dance will fit in nicely between sharpening techniques and wood turning demonstrations.:wink:

Studley 2436
21st August 2007, 10:16 AM
Sharpening techniques and wood turning. Boy you are talking dirty there Bleeding Thumb!

It sounds kinky to me

Studley

Waldo
21st August 2007, 10:29 AM
G'day,

No interest, never have never will. Got a phone call from Mens Gallery the other day offering free tickets, I turned them down.

(have I got the right tackle? :yes:)

bitingmidge
21st August 2007, 10:55 AM
Bunch of Puritans.

Al's obviously a bloke whose studied his religious denominations! But why pick "Puritans", surely the Shakers knew more about getting wood!

Cheers,

P:D :D

bigAl
21st August 2007, 11:51 AM
lol

Gra
21st August 2007, 11:54 AM
G'day,

No interest, never have never will. Got a phone call from Mens Gallery the other day offering free tickets, I turned them down.

(have I got the right tackle? :yes:)

Waldo mate, you should have accepted them, we could have taken Wongo:U:U

bitingmidge
21st August 2007, 11:59 AM
Prompted by another thread, I have a confession.

I haven't the desire to go to strip clubs, but I've been to the odd life drawing class or two. Does that make me a hypocrite, or does it just mean I get my jollies in a different way?

P
:D :D

Gra
21st August 2007, 12:06 PM
I haven't the desire to go to strip clubs, but I've been to the odd life drawing class or two.

Model or artist??:U:U

Stuart
21st August 2007, 12:06 PM
Don't remember ever having been to a strip club.

Does the Hellfire club count?

Ashore
21st August 2007, 12:14 PM
Don't remember ever having been to a strip club.

Does the Hellfire club count?

Depends what you were wearing:D

Waldo
21st August 2007, 12:48 PM
Prompted by another thread, I have a confession.

I haven't the desire to go to strip clubs, but I've been to the odd life drawing class or two. Does that make me a hypocrite, or does it just mean I get my jollies in a different way?

P
:D :D

G'day,

:yes: been to many of them in my life as an art student. Even my Grade 12 teacher would take me to evening classes on a Wednesday night. :o

People think it's a perve, but it's just like drawing a bowl of fruit - I suppose you need to have done some classes to understand that.

And Gra, :no: I wouldn't want to pollute our mate Wongo's head with naughty stuff - he might become a pollie one day.

Stuart
21st August 2007, 01:48 PM
Depends what you were wearing:DNo photos = no evidence

bitingmidge
21st August 2007, 02:38 PM
People think it's a perve, but it's just like drawing a bowl of fruit - I suppose you need to have done some classes to understand that.

A bit like a strip club I s'pose! I wish you hadn't told 'em that, I was hoping there'd be a flood of new enrolments at all the art classes in the country, and the board'd be imbued with a flood of culture!

Cheers,

P
:D

Waldo
21st August 2007, 02:41 PM
and the board'd be imbued with a flood of culture!:D

G'day Bitingmidge,

Culture :? You mean there are cultured people in this joint? :no: That can't be true.

:D

Studley 2436
21st August 2007, 02:42 PM
Isn't it in the code that Blokes don't do culture?

Studley

wheelinround
21st August 2007, 05:51 PM
in younger days to see what all the hooo har was about..............yawn

then a few years later at some fellows farwell he & is swmbo got one each male n female from the boss this was in their backyard tape was stretched and chair collpased.

Howdya do that
21st August 2007, 06:06 PM
Forgive me for father for I have sinned.
I get to a city about five times a year if you count Canberra. Order of the day is - Football, Food, Casino's, Strip Joints :2tsup:

Some one should tell Kevvy that you dont need to go all the way to USA to find better offerings than Canberra.

Your all either a bunch of boring old farts or LIARS!

Gra
21st August 2007, 06:13 PM
Forgive me for father for I have sinned.
I get to a city about five times a year if you count Canberra. Order of the day is - Football, Food, Casino's, Strip Joints :2tsup:

Some one should tell Kevvy that you dont need to go all the way to USA to find better offerings than Canberra.

Your all either a bunch of boring old farts or LIARS!

must be an access thing, I work a block away from three of these things...

bansheez71
21st August 2007, 07:44 PM
Man I'm going to sound like a perv, but last year 50 times at least. We partied with a few of the strippers outside of the club. Good times:2tsup: