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jayem
12th July 2007, 11:26 PM
Hi there

Another question in our quest to get our house off the round. Can anyone give us some guidance re the the cost of having an open fireplace brick chimney constructed please (new house)? Simple style and we estimate around 6m high (we will be having 3m ceilings). We are just looking for ballpark cost and weighing this against a slow combustion fire, obviously a cheaper option.

Many thanks

Jayem

ian
12th July 2007, 11:48 PM
on a slightly different tack

will an open fire pass the BASIX assessment?

ozwinner
13th July 2007, 06:52 AM
The fire place and chimney would cost any where from $1500 to $3000 it all depends on the situation.

I personally wouldnt have an open fire as they are to inefficient.

Al :)

Terrian
13th July 2007, 08:28 AM
The fire place and chimney would cost any where from $1500 to $3000 it all depends on the situation.

I personally wouldnt have an open fire as they are to inefficient.

Al :)

maybe he wants to put in a combustion heater, but doesn't like free standing units ?

ozwinner
13th July 2007, 08:32 AM
open fireplace brick chimney

I think this sort of gives it away that he is considering an open fire place. :U

Al :roll:

Terrian
13th July 2007, 01:03 PM
I think this sort of gives it away that he is considering an open fire place. :U

Al :roll:

maybe, but we had an open fireplace (with brick chimney) that nicely holds our combustion heater :-)

open fireplace for heating, blah, waste of good firewood, thats for sure.

Mind you, if you are going to have an open fireplace you need to do your research right, you want the smoke going up the chimney, not into the room ! (smoke detectors hate some filled rooms :) )

pawnhead
13th July 2007, 01:41 PM
There's a lot of bricks and technical (http://www.bia.org/BIA/technotes/t19.htm) knowledge (http://www.bia.org/BIA/technotes/t19a.htm) involved in getting it to draw right without smoking up your house. They're very rarely built anymore so make sure you don't get a clown on the job.
Most people just install a Jetmaster (http://www.jetmaster.com.au/page/jetmaster_open_fireplaces.html) nowadays. Basic brickwork, no brick chimney, and guaranteed to work most efficiently. You can convert it to gas as well.

edit: You'd beter enquire with your council first as well. Some urban councils won't allow new fireplaces.

ozwinner
13th July 2007, 04:36 PM
There's a lot of bricks and technical (http://www.bia.org/BIA/technotes/t19.htm) knowledge (http://www.bia.org/BIA/technotes/t19a.htm) involved in getting it to draw right without smoking up your house.

No wonder no one knows how to do a chimney any more, all that info would do your head in.



They're very rarely built anymore so make sure you don't get a clown on the job.


No, get a brickie instead.

Al :)

pawnhead
13th July 2007, 04:58 PM
No, get a brickie instead.Is it even a part of a bricklaying course anymore? I'm sure that a lot of brickies wouldn't have a clue, but then a lot of them wouldn't have done a course at all.
I've never seen one built, although I've seen a few Jetmasters go in. They're supposed to be a lot more efficient in heat transference, and I don't believe they'd be all that much dearer when you consider the extra time and bricks involved in a solid brick with chimney. They've also got a flap that you can adjust the amount of draw through the flue.

ozwinner
13th July 2007, 06:12 PM
Is it even a part of a bricklaying course anymore? .

Not sure, I did my apprenticeship 30 odd years ago, there isnt much call for them anymore so I dont suppose it matters.

Al :)

Terrian
13th July 2007, 07:20 PM
There's a lot of bricks and technical (http://www.bia.org/BIA/technotes/t19.htm) knowledge (http://www.bia.org/BIA/technotes/t19a.htm) involved in getting it to draw right without smoking up your house. They're very rarely built anymore so make sure you don't get a clown on the job.

get a clown, end up with a joke :)


Most people just install a Jetmaster (http://www.jetmaster.com.au/page/jetmaster_open_fireplaces.html) nowadays. Basic brickwork, no brick chimney, and guaranteed to work most efficiently. You can convert it to gas as well.

If you really must have an open fire, then a jetmaster is probably the way to go.


edit: You'd beter enquire with your council first as well. Some urban councils won't allow new fireplaces.

yep, very few will allow open fireplaces these days, some will not allow any form of wood heating in new houses.

as for cost between an open fire & a free standing slow combustion heater, short term it will be a free standing slow combustion heater, long term it will be a free standing slow combustion heater.

jayem
13th July 2007, 08:37 PM
The fire place and chimney would cost any where from $1500 to $3000 it all depends on the situation.

I personally wouldnt have an open fire as they are to inefficient.

Al :)

That's amazing - we have been told 10k - 15k plus.

Think we'll go with the Jetmaster - thanks for your advice everyone.