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rrich
27th June 2007, 04:41 PM
Saturday I had a heart attack. It's not that big of a deal.
WHAT???
Let me give the details and yes it was VERY SERIOUS.
Saturday about 2:20 it hit while I was in the shop. A HUGE pain in my chest. I rolled averything back into the shop and by 2:35 LOML was driving me to the ER. After a quick EKG I was in the ER by 3:10 with them planning to admit me. By about 8:00 I had already seen three cardiologists and the plans were in place to move me to another hospital a few blocks away. (Lakeview doesn't have the facility, yet, to insert stents.) Monday morning I had a stent inserted. This afternoon I came home with a bunch of pills and a very sore right leg. (They went into the leg, did an angigram and inserted the stent.)
The reason that it is not a big deal is that there was almost no damage to the heart. The big reason that there was no damage was because I went to the ER immediately. I was on drugs in less than an hour of the event starting.
The screaming message here is, If you are experiencing severe chest pains get to the ER immediately. (I should have called 9-1-1 rather than let LOML drive.)
For those of you that are technically minded, my blood tests for Toponin at 3:15, 10:00 and 4:00 showed levels of 0.0, 0.39 and 0.18. Had I waited a day or two, those levels could have been 30+. Toponin is an enzyme that is given off by dying heart cells.
Two different cardiologists asked why I came to the ER so quickly. I explained that my rules are chest pains or a peak flow (Atshma) of less than 450 means a trip to the ER. Both said good but next time use 9-1-1.
The third cardiologist spent about 20 minutes teaching me how to read an EKG print out. Really cool! My problem was an S-T wave form transistion of non zero. Then he asked me what I did for a living. When I said a retired network engineer, he exclaimed, "I knew it! I knew it! I can always spot an engineer." I got a good laugh from that.
The amazing thing about this experience has been money. Until we picked up the drugs at the phamacy on the way home, NOTHING has been said about money. No ER co-pay, no hospital co-pay, etc. I'm sure that we'll get a bill in the mail for the charges but the whole emphasis during the last three days has been my health and recovery. I'm guessing that the bill will be less than a grand. I think that the co-pay for the hospital is $300 per day. (It could be just a hundred but I can't remember. The difference is not significant.)
Guys --- Let me repeat the screaming message...
If you are expereincing chest pains call 9-1-1 !
craigb
27th June 2007, 04:50 PM
Glad to hear it was a happy ending. Must have put the wind up you a bit!
It's not much good calling 9-1-1 in Australia though, here you have to call 0-0-0. :)
Barry_White
27th June 2007, 04:52 PM
Saturday I had a heart attack. It's not that big of a deal.
Guys --- Let me repeat the screaming message...
If you are expereincing chest pains call 9-1-1 !
Rich
So glad you got fixed up quick.
The trouble Rich is if we call 911 we would be dead before they got here.
Over here it is 000 or 112 on the mobile.
That is part of the trouble here is that Aussie's watch so many Yankee movies that they think they should ring 911 and they risk death waiting.
chrisp
27th June 2007, 05:09 PM
I'm pleased to hear that you are still with us:) - although to call this forum the "land of the living" might be overstating it:rolleyes:.
Groggy
27th June 2007, 06:15 PM
Good to read you're ok Rich. Always wise to get to medical aid quickly.
ozwinner
27th June 2007, 06:21 PM
Age has nothing to do with it, its the bad western life style that does it.
All them fatty fries and burgers and drinks that are sooooooo tasty, you can thank them for the heart attack.
Al :U
Skew ChiDAMN!!
27th June 2007, 06:58 PM
What Al said... doesn't have to be fatty foods either.
In my mid-20's, I'd been dropped off in the field at my 'dozer and was climbing aboard... left hand reaching up for the hand-grip, right leg up on the blade-arm so I could get a leg up onto the track. WHAM! Instant agony in the left side of the chest... and I was literally frozen there like a statue for what felt like an eternity, until the pain eased.
I won't say I panicked, but I was sure damned worried... heart attack? At that age? Maybe just a cramp? [fingers Xed] Better safe than sorry though, so I flagged down the leading hand and asked to be driven into occ-health. He poo-poohed the whole thing and I copped a lot of flak about being a hypochondriac from my workmates. :(( Until brew time in the crib hut, anyway... where it happened again, only this time in front of witnesses. It scared the shyte out of them that time so they finally ran me into occ-health, who immediately diagnosed heart attack and rushed me to the local hossie.
Apparently 'twas hypokalemic(sp?) paralysis caused by a potassium deficiency and 'tis very serious indeed. Maybe not your "typical" heart attack, but still as dangerous, still caused long-term damage to the ol' ticker and can happen to anyone at any age.
I most definitely agree with the screaming message, Rich! (Good to see you're still with us, too. :wink:)
scooter
27th June 2007, 09:25 PM
Glad to hear you're OK, Rich. :2tsup:
You too, Andy, would never have met yer if you'd turned your bare toes up then... :D
Barry_White
27th June 2007, 09:39 PM
Just watched the New Inventers where this couple have invented a personal heart monitor that can tell if you are having a heart attack and through a PDA and bluetooth records your heart information and sets of an alarm off and if you don't cancel the alarm within a certain amount of time it sends a SMS to a nominated phone so they can ring 000 and will send graphs to your cardiologist to determine how bad the attack is.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/txt/s1958450.htm
Jedo_03
27th June 2007, 10:01 PM
Quote[Over here it is 000 or 112 on the mobile.]unquote
I didn't know that...
Thanks...
PS any other mobile numbers I should know...
cheers
Jedo
Barry_White
27th June 2007, 10:10 PM
Quote[Over here it is 000 or 112 on the mobile.]unquote
I didn't know that...
Thanks...
PS any other mobile numbers I should know...
cheers
Jedo
Jedo
Don't know any others but 112 will connect to the closest Telco provider even if your provider is out of range.
Jedo_03
27th June 2007, 11:35 PM
also...
for STROKE (CVA\TIA\Brain attack) sooner you get to A&E the better...
if it's ischaemic they can thrombolyse \ warfarinise which will minimise neurological damage...
if it's haemorraghic they will drop your blood pressure rapidly to minimise neurological damage...
Not all health facilities have STROKE units... but the sooner you get to an acute tertiary centre - the better...
Ambos with paramedics can deal with heart attack (MI) on a high-expert level now... The move is on to train Ambos and paramedics in acute Stroke Management now...
Signs of Stroke: (can be all or some) collapse - one sided limb weakness - garbled speech - blurred vision - tingling in limbs...
Mostly, STROKE occurs in the over 50's... can be younger...
Don't hesitate - 000 or 012... get to a hospital...
Jedo
Cliff Rogers
27th June 2007, 11:56 PM
....about 2:20 it hit while I was in the shop. A HUGE pain in my chest. I rolled averything back into the shop and by 2:35 LOML was driving me to the ER. ....!
You spent 15 minutes cleaning up while you were having a heartie???? :oo:
I want that kind of heartie when I have mine. :2tsup:
I have never spent 15 minutes cleaning up, ever.... :D
Glad you are still here to tell the tale. :)
joe greiner
28th June 2007, 01:15 AM
Very glad you're on the mend, Rich.
One of my Dad's coworkers, an air traffic controller, had a heart attack around 1940. In those days, it was considered a death sentence, and he went on disability retirement. Didn't finally check out until around 1970. They're all different, though. My Dad had his at age 86, but it was a big one. Shuffled off his mortal coil in a couple weeks.
"I knew it! I knew it! I can always spot an engineer." I got a good laugh from that.
Now, that's excellent medicine! They need to teach it more in medical school; or maybe they do.
Best of luck.
Joe
rrich
28th June 2007, 10:02 AM
Thanks for the get well wishes, mates.
Terry B
28th June 2007, 10:10 AM
I'm pleased to here you are OK. Yes time is very important with AMI (heart attack). The quicker treatment is initiated the better. It's good you had the option of the stent. For us that would be a ~500km transfer. There are some advantages to living closer to a big centre.
jmk89
28th June 2007, 10:35 AM
Rich
please let me add my best wishes and thanks for reminding us all to take this stuff seriously
K_S
28th June 2007, 10:13 PM
Rich
Always good to read a good news story. Best wishes for future health
Keith S
Bob38S
29th June 2007, 11:14 AM
Pleased to hear you are on the mend.
Rossluck
30th June 2007, 08:49 AM
Good luck with it, Rich. I enjoy your posts.
Barry Hicks
30th June 2007, 09:19 AM
A work of warning re 000 calls. If you are in a situation where you need to make a 000 call, make sure you call "triple zero" and not "triple oh". There is a BIG difference!
Barry Hicks
Phil Spencer
30th June 2007, 05:45 PM
Glad you are OK Rich, I had my first at 38 after running over a 13 year old kid on a bike, the second was when I was studying marketing at night school, I have just had my second stress ECG and the doctors said that I went well and got further than most people. Thanks to a strict diet and regular exercise.
Phil
Just George
30th June 2007, 06:58 PM
Quote[Over here it is 000 or 112 on the mobile.]unquote
I didn't know that...
Thanks...
PS any other mobile numbers I should know...
cheers
Jedo
I got an email a while ago about ICE( In Case of Emergency ). List in your
mobile phone those people you want called in an emergency under "Joan"
ICE, Joan could be your wife, daughter etc. Or try listing the same people
as "Joan" - wife. So if you have an accident and can't talk, someone can
go through your phone and call anyone that needs to know.
Just George
30th June 2007, 07:00 PM
Oh yeah, if you're someone like my wife and never has credit on your phone - 112 still works.
Sturdee
30th June 2007, 07:16 PM
I got an email a while ago about ICE( In Case of Emergency ). List in your
mobile phone those people you want called in an emergency under "Joan"
ICE, Joan could be your wife, daughter etc. Or try listing the same people
as "Joan" - wife. So if you have an accident and can't talk, someone can
go through your phone and call anyone that needs to know.
Another good use of the ICE is you can contact the owner of the phone when you find it. A few month ago someone dropped their phone in the shop I work, so I rang the ICE number and the customer's husband came and picked up the phone before his wife came home and realised she had lost it.
They were old age pensioners and could ill afford to buy a new phone and pay out their existing contract so in this case the Ice number worked well.
Peter.
ernknot
30th June 2007, 11:19 PM
Rich, only the good die young. Glad you are OK.