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Knurl
18th June 2007, 08:46 AM
I've used Neil's water-based dye on Maple and find that the color has gone just a touch too dark. Is there some way I can bleach the reddish/brown color to a lighter tone?
Capt. Zero
22nd July 2007, 04:10 PM
I know no one has replied to this post, I just noticed it tonite. Now I'm a greenhorn, so take this with a grain of salt. I just finished reading a book on finishing (there were 4-5 available and this guy seemed to have the best credentials) and it said you could get a bleach from a hardware store called A-B bleach(two part) that was ideal for this kind of problem. Regular kitchen bleach is not strong enough.
Hope this helps.
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Capt. Zero
22nd July 2007, 04:29 PM
Oops. My bad. Just reread the section on bleaching wood. Two part bleaches are for lightening up natural wood color(cherry, walnut, ect.). For your problem the arthur suggests a clorine bleach. However, laundry bleach isn't strong enough and he suggests swimming pool shock treatment. You might try it on a scrap or hidden part of your project first as I haven't tried it yet, so I'm not sure how well it works.
As an aside, he also mentions oxcilic acid for removing water stains, rust stains, ect.
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echnidna
22nd July 2007, 07:51 PM
try a yellow stain over the top of the brown,
it will often lighten brown up a bit.
son_of_bluegras
23rd July 2007, 12:14 PM
Have you thought of sanding with a fine grit sandpaper? Dyes and stains and all that tends to be a superficial treatment. Lightly sanding will take off just a bit, reducing the amount of dye in the wood which should lighten the appearance.
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Jedo_03
23rd July 2007, 07:29 PM
What I'd try first is wiping it over with a damp\wet cloth...
since the solvent for the dye is water, then water should dilute it...
Give it a wip and see how much stain comes off onto the cloth and how much lighter it is where you wiped...
few wipes over should make a difference
It'll raise the grain so you'll have some light sanding to do - and mebbe sealer...
Jedo
I've used Neil's water-based dye on Maple and find that the color has gone just a touch too dark. Is there some way I can bleach the reddish/brown color to a lighter tone?
Knurl
25th July 2007, 09:15 PM
Thank you for thos tips. I might try a) water b) sanding and c) yellow dye in that order until I get the desired affect. I think the water doesn't help after the dye has dried in the grain.
Thanks for all those ideas. I'll let you know how I go.
martink
25th July 2007, 09:19 PM
Thank you for thos tips. I might try a) water b) sanding and c) yellow dye in that order until I get the desired affect. I think the water doesn't help after the dye has dried in the grain.
Thanks for all those ideas. I'll let you know how I go.
You may want to try pool chlorine mixed with a little water - this might bleach it lighter or perhaps some IMS rubbed over the surface instead of water i.e. try metho after water and before sanding.
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M.