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Jedo_03
16th June 2007, 10:32 PM
for all us novices...
how to chisel-out for yur door hinges...
http://www.taunton.com/finehomebuilding/how-to/departments/building-skills/mortising-a-hinge-with-a-chisel.aspx
cheers
Jedo

rat52
16th June 2007, 11:43 PM
Wow!!!! That takes me back. Pre electron:D

The only thing I did differently was to use a marking gauge to set the width of the hinge and mark from the hinge pin side of the door that way you can set the same width when marking the jamb ensuring the door will be flush with the jamb.

les88
17th June 2007, 07:37 AM
I hung doors in the old days using a rod and butt gauge .The rod is about 100 mm shorter that the door and has a nail in it at 7 inches from the top and 11 inches from the bottom of the door . Place the rod in the timber jamb and tap the nails. use the butt gauge to set the hinge cut out. Place the rod on the door which is held in a home made door vise hold the top of the rod above the door the amount of clearance required tap the nails use the butt gauge again for the door hinges.

billbeee
18th June 2007, 07:58 PM
Hi Guys,
I actually don't think that the guy doing the work has ever fixed doors for a living.
A typical case of "those who can do, those who can't teach", or of putting crap up on the Internet that is not real.

In nearly 50 years I've never seen anybody fix a door without a marking gauge or butt gauge.

In step six, he is using the chisel the wrong way, the bevel edge should be down.

Nobody belts a chisel with the face of a hammer, always the side.

Les, good tip about the rod, I use rods a lot but never thought of that.

Jedo_03
18th June 2007, 09:03 PM
but if the guy featured is doing it all wrong (and some of us are led to believe by virtue of the fact that this guy is being paid big dollar$ by his company that he is some kinda expert - so he must be doing it right) then rather than respond to threads pointing out errors in techniques and tool use - would it be worth a suggestion that our own experts submit their own articles with pics... maybe we could have a thread similar to the video thread... how to hang a door properly using marking out and butt gauges and how to (and how not to) use a chisel... how to fit a door handle to a new door... how to finish gyprock joints... how to anything...
Sort of - more than WIP... with digital pics and dialogue on how it's done, dimensions, suggested materials and tools, safety, etc...
That'd make it easier for "us novices" to follow a set plan of action rather than getting confused over which parts of the tutorial were right and which were wrong...
What do others think... A Tutorial thread....
cheers
Jedo

billbeee
19th June 2007, 10:00 AM
Hey Jedo,
There was no criticism of your post implied, it was a criticism of a type of site that charges you for information and then gets it wrong. Jeez, they could't even find an old chisel for the illustrations.
OK by way of making up to you, I have posted an how to thread on Fox wedges. Fire away with your comments, that way we all learn.
Cheers mate.
Bill.

Jedo_03
19th June 2007, 08:58 PM
Hey Jedo,
There was no criticism of your post implied, it was a criticism of a type of site that charges you for information and then gets it wrong. Jeez, they could't even find an old chisel for the illustrations.
OK by way of making up to you, I have posted an how to thread on Fox wedges. Fire away with your comments, that way we all learn.
Cheers mate.
Bill.

didn't take it as criticism - the posters had a genuine point... what I was saying was that people on this forum have same\more knowledge than the fancy-schmancy in-house contributors to WW mags...
Niki often sends in pictorial "how to's", few others, so I was suggesting that people post "how to's" in the same style as ww mags...
I read your post re fox wedges... just what I was suggesting... informative and educational - and a jig and advice AND safety tips on making wedges.
Be great to see more like this...
Thanks Bill
Jedo

PS - also saved you website to my favourites.. you're a wealth of information - thanks for sharing

martrix
19th June 2007, 09:25 PM
Hi Guys,
I actually don't think that the guy doing the work has ever fixed doors for a living.
A typical case of "those who can do, those who can't teach", or of putting crap up on the Internet that is not real.

In nearly 50 years I've never seen anybody fix a door without a marking gauge or butt gauge.

In step six, he is using the chisel the wrong way, the bevel edge should be down.

Nobody belts a chisel with the face of a hammer, always the side.

Les, good tip about the rod, I use rods a lot but never thought of that.

Wot choo bin smokin' man?

How is anything he has demonstrated been wrong?:? Its about hanging a door on the cheap without having to setup a router.

What difference does it make if the bevel is down while he is just chopping some depth cuts?:?

Nothing wrong with using a hammer with a synthetic handled chisel, especially when its got a steel striking cap on it.

More than one way to skin a cat.