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SPIRIT
16th May 2007, 09:30 PM
now that is great 100 post debating maths and grammer what and no padding from the drivel team:oo:
SPIRIT
16th May 2007, 09:31 PM
sorry Wongo you padded up
ss_11000
17th May 2007, 12:29 AM
i think i just wasted ten minutes or so reading this...twas quite funny thou.
i got 350 as the answer in 30 seconds or so. i know what you guys mean when you say ppl dont read the question because i do it alot ( i only get 90% ish instead of 100% cos i misread or dont read the question and assume i know what i have to do ).
maths is truly to easy:) ( most of the time - i hate factorising:( lol )
cheers
BTW congrats wongo on ur 100% hsc mark...tis what i aim for in 4 unit maths in two yrs time.
Chesand
17th May 2007, 07:30 AM
Doing exams is a bit like woodwork
Exams - read the question twice and answer once
Woodwork - measure twice and cut once
MurrayD99
17th May 2007, 10:14 AM
Mr C: I'm just glad they're not building my house :U
So am I
Would you not get a bigger house? :?
Wood Borer
17th May 2007, 12:43 PM
Possibly you would have got a house with a floor area of 350 but an invoice for an area of 500.
Of course if you were mathematically challenged, you would be quite happy with the house and the bill. Ignorance is bliss.:D
Chesand
17th May 2007, 01:03 PM
Possibly you would have got a house with a floor area of 350 but an invoice for an area of 500.
I would be happy if it was the other way round but of course the rooms might be the wrong shapes
SPIRIT
17th May 2007, 01:51 PM
you get a new maths question tomorrow:D
MurrayD99
17th May 2007, 02:37 PM
you get a new maths question tomorrow:D
You'll compromise the drivel channel. What'll we do?:D
SPIRIT
17th May 2007, 02:45 PM
good point you cliff and the others should be able to help with my kids homework:D :U
Wongo
17th May 2007, 03:11 PM
I am not available tomorrow. I have more important thing to discuss in another forum. :D
Gra
17th May 2007, 07:33 PM
Give us a kiss and l will see
:kiss1:
now that is great 100 post debating maths and grammer what and no padding from the drivel team:oo:
are you trying to say we are math debating:U:U:U
ian
17th May 2007, 07:46 PM
question 1-D
A rectangle has a perimeter of 90cm .the length of the rectangle is 25 cm
more than the width
find the of sq cm in the area of the rectangle
you have 6 Minutes:roll:width of rectangle = (90 – 2 x 25) /4 = 10 cm
Rectangle is thus 35cm long and 10 cm wide
check the sums — (length + width) x 2 = (35 + 10) x 2 = 90 checks
area = 35 x 10 = 350 cm squared
ian
Wongo
18th May 2007, 12:07 AM
Ian, where were you when we needed you.:p
ian
18th May 2007, 12:20 AM
If you took a survey today, people would say the earth was almost spherical. Could the majority from either era prove their answers? I suggest not. Those from Copernious's time couldn't, but it's straight forward.
A sphere casts a cylindrical shadow no matter what direction it is illuminated from. This is the only shape that does.
During a lunar eclipse the earth's shadow as it passes across the moon is always round. Therefore the earth is a sphere.
AND if you can measure distances along a meridian you can work out the earth's approximate size.
ian
ian
18th May 2007, 12:23 AM
Ian, where were you when we needed you.:pat work!
where I dare not visit here
ian
Wood Borer
18th May 2007, 06:40 AM
In the early days scientists went to still lakes and measured how much "dip" there was from one end of the lake to the other by measuring how far out of sight a graduated object fell. Assuming light travelled in a straight line they were able to calculate the radius of the earth.
This method of course had several problems:
1: It is possible that the atmosphere near the lake had different densities, temperatures etc that could cause refraction (bending of light).
2: It didn't prove the radius of earth was reasonably constant so unless multiple measurements were made in different directions in many places, this method only suggested that the earth's surface was curved.
People who state that they have seen "pictures" of the earth from space could be victims of a photography hoax. For example some Science Fiction pictures seem more realistic than current and past photos from space.
Personally I believe the earth is almost spherical, assuming that it is certainly helped me navigate using a sextant and compass. Unless of course I stuffed up the calculations and by pure chance happened to return.:D
Could I prove it was spherical? Not conclusively. Like many others on this forum I have studied University Maths however I wouldn't bet my LNs that I could prove the earth was round.
By prove I mean a mathematical proof and not an argument that convinces others that I am right.
silentC
18th May 2007, 09:10 AM
A sphere casts a cylindrical shadow no matter what direction it is illuminated from. This is the only shape that does.
During a lunar eclipse the earth's shadow as it passes across the moon is always round. Therefore the earth is a sphere.
That assumes that the moon is lit by the sun and not from some other source, such as radioactive cheese.
MurrayD99
18th May 2007, 09:41 AM
It it really is round, wouldn't it make sense to fire the rockets sideways over the Atlantic so the go downhill rather than straight up at the moon. Burn a lot less fuel, surely. Mr C, I never thought of the hot cheese possibility. Is that widely known?
Wood Borer
18th May 2007, 09:43 AM
That assumes that the moon is lit by the sun and not from some other source, such as radioactive cheese.
But wouldn't radioactive cheese cause radio communications problems when we have a full moon? Probably would be called Moon spots.
Wongo
18th May 2007, 10:10 AM
The earth is round. Trust me, I've been there.
SPIRIT
18th May 2007, 10:44 AM
Q:ok readers of the breaky Debate im going to now hijack this theard ,if l offend anybody sorry please say something,, asap.thanks
Q/
A/1 how should you teach kids
about universe,,,,,,
when dealing with a 11yo do a f=+t and say l just created a universe and now they call me GOD ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,a 11yo boy finds that funny13 yo girl finds that grossssss and come back with your no God you just stink:oo:
why not why can't l be creating small universe using a theorem that ???? slides down hill !there is always something never nothing its just to small or to big to see
silentC
18th May 2007, 11:04 AM
I don't know what you are eating for breakfast but I'm sure it's bad for your health... :p
SPIRIT
18th May 2007, 11:05 AM
are but good for the mind
Bob38S
18th May 2007, 12:07 PM
are but good for the mind
Are you telling us that you are sitting on your mind? :o
I though that this was the place where most of our pollies had their heads up. :2tsup:
Chesand
18th May 2007, 12:31 PM
Spirit
A good way to get the kids going is to ask them what happens to the holes in dry biscuits when they eat them. As the discussion goes on you can then ask how they manage if they have a stomach full of holes.
It caused consternation here a few years ago - one daughter even asked her science teacher.
SPIRIT
18th May 2007, 01:22 PM
its easy to see some people can only answer maths question :rolleyes:
MurrayD99
18th May 2007, 01:24 PM
Was there not to be another question this day? Nah, too late.
SPIRIT
18th May 2007, 01:42 PM
Was there not to be another question this day? Nah, too late.
ok she took her work book to school so my memery is not what it use to be
mary spends 3.00$ ,the roll is 30cents more than the milk the milk is 60cents more than the fruit,how much is the roll
silentC
18th May 2007, 01:57 PM
How long was the roll?
MurrayD99
18th May 2007, 02:17 PM
$1.40, he ventured, anxiously hoping he would not be required to stay late on a Friday afternoon.
Gra
18th May 2007, 02:18 PM
I dunno, but I can bet she got charged three withdrawal fees:q:U
SPIRIT
18th May 2007, 02:22 PM
what the roll is 1.40$ how did you get that
SPIRIT
18th May 2007, 02:24 PM
How long was the roll?READ THE QUESTION see that saying is cool:2tsup:
MurrayD99
18th May 2007, 02:28 PM
what the roll is 1.40$ how did you get that
3.00 = (M + 30) + (M - 60) + M
3M = 3.30.....
Roll is 12'6"
Wongo
18th May 2007, 02:29 PM
mary spends 3.00$ ,the roll is 30cents
more than the milk the milk is 60cents more than the fruit,how much is the roll
Hang on, you said the roll is 30 cents.
How can it be more than the milk when the milk is 60 cents??
Also, you forgot to put "more than.." in a new line. :D
My answer: 30 cents. :D
MurrayD99
18th May 2007, 02:31 PM
Hang on, you said the roll is 30 cents.
How can it be more than the milk when the milk is 60 cents??
My answer: 30 cents. :D
Yeah, well, you might well be correct. Sir, can I leave now please. Been a long week and fuel just went up 2c:(( .
SPIRIT
18th May 2007, 03:25 PM
Hang on, you said the roll is 30 cents.
How can it be more than the milk when the milk is 60 cents??
Also, you forgot to put "more than.." in a new line. :D
My answer: 30 cents. :D
what the roll cost 30cents :?
Wongo
18th May 2007, 03:28 PM
Yes. 30c, no more no less.
Trust me.
SPIRIT
18th May 2007, 03:28 PM
Hang on, you said the roll is 30 cents.
How can it be more than the milk when the milk is 60 cents??
Also, you forgot to put "more than.." in a new line. :D
My answer: 30 cents. :Dl never did say that
Wongo
18th May 2007, 03:29 PM
and the milk is 60c
that makes the fruit 3 - 0.3 - 0.6 = $2.10
HappyHammer
18th May 2007, 03:29 PM
that
Did so..
HH.
SPIRIT
18th May 2007, 03:30 PM
how much was the friut
SPIRIT
18th May 2007, 03:31 PM
Did so..
HH.did not
Wongo
18th May 2007, 03:31 PM
l never did say that
Well that’s my interpretation of the question.:p
SPIRIT
18th May 2007, 03:35 PM
Well that’s my interpretation of the question.:pMAYBE but l did't say it
silentC
18th May 2007, 03:38 PM
Is this the right room for an argument?
SPIRIT
18th May 2007, 03:38 PM
hay wongo maths the only questions you answer
Wongo
18th May 2007, 03:39 PM
ok she took her work book to school so my memery is not what it use to be
mary spends 3.00$ ,the roll is 30cents more than the milk the milk is 60cents more than the fruit,how much is the roll
milk = 0.6 + fruit
roll = 0.3 + milk = 0.3 + 0.6 + fruit
fruit + milk + roll = 3
3*fruit + 1.5 = 3
fruit = $0.5
therefore milk = $1.1 and roll = $1.4
RobP
18th May 2007, 03:39 PM
$1.40, he ventured, anxiously hoping he would not be required to stay late on a Friday afternoon.
I agree.
Let cost of fruit = x
Milk is x + 60
Roll is x + 60 + 30
Total cost of lunch is x + x + x + 60 + 60 + 30 = 300
3x + 150 = 300
3x = 300 - 150 = 150
x = 50
So Roll is 50 + 60 + 30 = 140 or $1.40
EDIT: Damn Wongo, you type faster than me.
SPIRIT
18th May 2007, 03:39 PM
Is this the right room for an argument?yep that will be a greenie thanks
Gra
18th May 2007, 03:41 PM
hay wongo maths the only questions you answer
Nah he answers Excel questions too, as long as I don't beat him to it:q
SPIRIT
18th May 2007, 03:41 PM
milk = 0.6 + fruit
roll = 0.3 + milk = 0.3 + 0.6 + fruit
fruit + milk + roll = 3
3*fruit + 1.5 = 3
fruit = $0.5
therefore milk = $1.1 and roll = $1.4told you l didn't say it
SPIRIT
18th May 2007, 03:43 PM
Nah he answers Excel questions too, as long as I don't beat him to it:qdo you think he stores his pens in his shirt pocket :U
Gra
18th May 2007, 03:44 PM
do you think he stores his pens in his shirt pocket :U
Cant say much, I store my pens in my pocket when at work........
SPIRIT
18th May 2007, 03:45 PM
Cant say much, I store my pens in my pocket when at work........
:no: just sad
Wongo
18th May 2007, 03:46 PM
do you think he stores his pens in his shirt pocket :U
Yes and the ink leaks too.
journeyman Mick
18th May 2007, 03:56 PM
l never did say that
Yes you did:
mary spends 3.00$ ,the roll is 30cents
more than the milk the milk is 60cents more than the fruit,how much is the roll
It's all how you (mis)read the question.:U
Mick
Wongo
18th May 2007, 04:37 PM
Thats me. :D
http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=46375&stc=1&d=1179466631
ian
18th May 2007, 08:34 PM
mary spends 3.00$ ,
the roll is 30cents more than the milk the milk is 60cents more than the fruit, how much is the rollhere goes
milk = fruit + 60¢
roll = milk + 30¢
therefor roll = (fruit + 60) + 30 = fruit + 90¢
Mary spent 300¢, she bought roll + milk + fruit
substitute terms
(fruit + 90) + (fruit + 60) + fruit = 300
3 x fruit + 150 = 300
3 x fruit = 150, so fruit = 50¢
so the roll was 50 + 90 = $1.40 and the milk = $1.10
check roll + milk + fruit = $1.40 + $1.10+ $0.50 = $3.00
do I get the piece fruit??
ian
Gingermick
18th May 2007, 08:45 PM
How many of you never thought you'd ever use algebra when you were at school? :D
ss_11000
19th May 2007, 12:22 AM
How many of you never thought you'd ever use algebra when you were at school? :D
its a commonly asked question at skool lol:rolleyes: :cool:
SPIRIT
19th May 2007, 12:06 PM
Yes you did:
Mickdid not
scooter
19th May 2007, 05:56 PM
Please stay on topic, there is a drivel forum for a Friday thread...
edit: Oops, Saturday thread
Cheers................Sean
scooter
20th May 2007, 12:13 AM
Time for a drivel forum thread.
Case closed.