View Full Version : Was I wrong?
rrich
31st March 2007, 04:34 PM
About a year ago, a neighbor asks if I could build some doors for his linen closet.
Sure, no problem, when do you want them.
Well, I'm re-doing the bathroom and when I'm ready I'll let you know.
I look at the linen closet in my home and estimate the materials needed. (One of the advantages of living in a tract home.) Several more conversations over the months, the project is still on.
The neighbor thinks that the vanity is too close for an overlay door.
Hummmmmm... I take a piece of 3/4 ply, put two 35mm overlay hinges on it and have the neighbor test it. Nope, won't work. The doors have to be inset.
OK, let me check on hinges...
A month later, I stop the neighbor's wife as she is driving up the street. I tell her that the hinges are about $15 a pair and that we need 6 pair. "That's only $100. No big deal."
I got the wood (Baltic birch) and the hinges. This week I measured the opening. The doors were made this week and I installed them today.
The neighbor loves the doors, how much??? Well the wood, the hinges, a box of screws and a pack of Blum screw inserts. "Just give SWMBO a check, as she does all the banking." "Cool!"
Now SWMBO I sall bent out of shape. "Nothing for your labor?"
They are neighbors and you can't charge neighbors. Besides, I needed to learn how to install inset doors. Was I wrong?
BTW - The diagram on the hinge package was wrong. The hinges will never clip on if you install the hinges per the instructions. (LOL)
watson
31st March 2007, 04:55 PM
G'day Rich,
I reckon that some jobs should be done at cost.....we call them "love jobs", so you should be in the good books with the neighbours......but not at home??
Grunt
31st March 2007, 05:10 PM
I figure that doing a good turn for your neighbour is worth the effort. I consider it an investment. There will be many times when you need a hand doing stuff that you need that extra pair of hands.
Santalum
31st March 2007, 05:11 PM
Its a tough call Rich, I guess the neighbor is happy 1 out of 2 aint bad, buy her a bunch of flowers, should help her to forget the lost dollars, but then maybe you will be in trouble again for wasting money on flowers. Jon:dunno:
G'day Rich,
I reckon that some jobs should be done at cost.....we call them "love jobs", so you should be in the good books with the neighbours......but not at home??
Gumby
31st March 2007, 05:23 PM
Where you went wrong is that you didnt sort out the cost or how much you would charge before you started.
But I echo the sentiments of the others about doing a good turn for your neighbour. I cut bits of wood for my neighbour and he keeps giving me bottles of wine :D
Skew ChiDAMN!!
31st March 2007, 05:23 PM
I agree with Grunt. As long as friends, family or immediate neighbours are involved, love jobs are an inescapable fact of life. I do put the foot down at "friends of friends" though. :rolleyes:
Instead of trying to make an immediate profit, consider it a long-term investment. For example, you never know when you'll have the need to use the tablesaw in the wee hours of the night... and having a few such investments helps smooth the path. :wink:
lubbing5cherubs
31st March 2007, 06:01 PM
no mate ...you know for next time, tell the mrs that it cost this parts plus my cut equals such and such, when you give her the docket that parts and time for the amount you asked. it saves getting in the :toiletjump:
i think you did a generous thing but if you like me anyway you probably be playing with it anyway so why not get costs back so you can spend more:D
toni
journeyman Mick
31st March 2007, 06:36 PM
I'll second what the above have said except SWMBO says you're wrong and thus you are:no: it's an inescapable fact of life.:~
Mick
Rossluck
31st March 2007, 07:52 PM
I have a litany of similar stories where I've done stuff for my neighbour, or given him tools and materials. It's a matter of what sort of relationship you have with them. If they're friends, then the labour's free, and the favour will be returned. I consider my neighbour a friend. I suppose that over time the ledger's in his favour, but I don't care. I can't live in debt to someone, while he's perfectly comfortable with it. It works.
It sounds to me like your SWMBO doesn't have a great relationship with the neighbour. I can understand how she feels if this is the case.
A year ago I was roped into a half day's unpaid work on a precious Sunday by the husband of SWMBO's friend. I was asked to help install an air conditioner in their investment property in Brisbane. I couldn't get out of it because of the complexities of the way I was asked (you know how it works: they did SWMBO a small favour just before they asked) I wasn't happy. :((
scooter
31st March 2007, 09:43 PM
I'll second what the above have said except SWMBO says you're wrong and thus you are:no: it's an inescapable fact of life.:~
Mick
Words for the ages :D
joe greiner
1st April 2007, 02:10 PM
Old philosophy puzzle: If a tree falls in the woods, with no one around to hear, is there any sound?
New philosophy puzzle: If a man says something in the woods, and there's no woman around to hear, is he still wrong?:D
Joe
rrich
2nd April 2007, 11:12 AM
Old philosophy puzzle: If a tree falls in the woods, with no one around to hear, is there any sound?
New philosophy puzzle: If a man says something in the woods, and there's no woman around to hear, is he still wrong?:D
Joe
Thank you, Joe. LOL! :) :D :) :D :2tsup:
AlexS
2nd April 2007, 04:05 PM
I always do love jobs for neighbours, because I figure that way they're less likely to complain about the occasional machine noise (and because they're a pretty good bunch). If they insist on paying, I say the currency is red wine.
Iain
2nd April 2007, 09:04 PM
I always do love jobs for neighbours, because I figure that way they're less likely to complain about the occasional machine noise (and because they're a pretty good bunch). If they insist on paying, I say the currency is red wine.
Grange Hermitage?????:wink:
Cliff Rogers
2nd April 2007, 10:09 PM
Grange Hermitage?????:wink:
Nuh, he wants to drink it not invest in the stuff. :D
Poppa
3rd April 2007, 01:42 AM
Generosity comes back to you in one form or another. I too have a SWMBO who has less than generous tendencies at times. These are the times when I ignore her.
WillyInBris
5th April 2007, 09:42 PM
Its funny how things work out.
I had a neighbor that I helped make a gate beside his house (he had no idea what screwdriver was) anyway we had a falling out over something I cant remember what, sometime later and he decided to pull the gate out and left it at my front door :oo: .
Anyway they put the house on the market about three months later and when he wasn't home one weekend I took the gate back and put it back :D. the house looked like utter crap without it, and the house sold that weekend.
They moved out about 4 weeks later and he decided to come over and say goodbye and ask why I put the gate back, so I told him that the house looked like crap from the front without it, and I was not going to get rid of him until the house sold so I thought it was the best thing to do :D
We both had a laugh and parted ways, the new owners took it down and I was a little disappointed but then it was back up about a week later, so I asked why they put it back up, the answer was without it the house looks like it was missing something and they liked it.:)
From that date forward I do nothing for free so that gives me a lot more time for myself.