a new deck

[SPIRIT]

had a go at a deck here is a few picks
bloody hell its hard work got to get that spa working:p

[Felder]

Looks alright to me, SPIRIT, except for that girly dog in the third pic.


Aside from the caninal faux pas........:2tsup:

[SPIRIT]

and here l was thinking that he was a killer:?

[SPIRIT]

need a break from that deck its killing me mate l would never screw a whole deck down have do a few sq/m its hard work:p

[Dalob]

Spirit,
What type of timber are you using for the decking top? I am starting to get quotes for my deck and are now trying to decide on a timber type.
Thanks

[SPIRIT]

Spirit,
What type of timber are you using for the decking top? I am starting to get quotes for my deck and are now trying to decide on a timber type.
Thanksmerbau 90mm it looks like a lot of money anyway you look at it:doh: l think im up around $4G already when its all done +spa knocking on the door of $20G

[Dalob]

Ouch, I am currently costing up my deck (90sqm) and my first quote came back at 12k for timber only (support structure and spotted gum decking) but I really like to Merbau look. Will have to call the timber yard and get a quote.

Thanks

[Wongo]

I like your deck. :clap:

[SPIRIT]

just came in from working on the deck boy its hot work
only have to cut around spa and then the roof goes on ,this is why men die before their wifes lM STUFFED:(

thanks wongo

[SPIRIT]

Aside from the caninal faux pas........:2tsup: is that you know im not to bright

[NCArcher]

It just means the deck looks good but get a manlier dog.
Preferably have the new dog eat the old one.

[UteMad]

I wish my customers would appreciate how hard the work is compared to there office jobs when i quote there deck.....
Mate screwings a snack you just need the right gear ...way easier than nailing if your arm isn't used to hammering all day...
You need square drive screws ...a cordless impact driver and a drill with a 50 dollar tungsten carbide counter sink and your on your way.....

Oh and the spotted gum quote will be dearer than merbau

if your in sydney and want to buy a whole deck load of timber PM me your list and your best price and i'll see what i can do.... All orders are strictly pay in advance though cause i can't run on credit for every one

www.dialadeck.com.au (http://www.dialadeck.com.au)


cheers Ute Mad

[Felder]

is that you know im not to bright

Hmmm......how can I best put it....:hmm:


It just means the deck looks good but get a manlier dog.
Preferably have the new dog eat the old one.
:whs:

[SPIRIT]

come on every evil vilin has a fluffy dog:D

[Felder]

come on every evil vilin has a fluffy dog:D

So does Paris Hilton. :rolleyes:

[SPIRIT]

come on you cant tell me he isn't a tough dod

[Spelunx]

Hey there Spirit, great looking deck....:2tsup: :2tsup:


How many square metres is that bad boy? And how many days did it take, working how many hours a day?



I am trying to estimate how long it will take me to put up my 45sqm deck.:? :?

[SPIRIT]

its 5m x 10m 8 days with 2 of us but there was hard parts we had to make a part that could be removed to get at the spa motors and we also had to make it sit level with the other deck which wasn't level :~ don't know with we are working today its raining but only ightly ,could do with a rest any how,4 more day and it should be finished we are going to roof over the spa now:U

[Spelunx]

its 5m x 10m 8 days with 2 of us but there was hard parts we had to make a part that could be removed to get at the spa motors and we also had to make it sit level with the other deck which wasn't level :~ don't know with we are working today its raining but only ightly ,could do with a rest any how,4 more day and it should be finished we are going to roof over the spa now:U


Thats given me a bit of hope, then. I have a retired builder coming in to help me with the bush poles, ledger, and bearers (2 days), then I am going to do the joists and decking. Then the old bloke is coming back to help with the roof, then I will do the balustrading and finishing.

I have four weeks off work to accomplish this, so hopefully all will go to plan. :2tsup:

[SPIRIT]

???? it in spenunx
just take the time to get the bearer and joist level and the first few lines of decking strait ,we are puting up the polls today inbeween the rain


wear knee pads it helps heeps
don't forget to tell the wife how hard it is,,, brownie points are to come by:2tsup:

[Spelunx]

???? it in spenunx
just take the time to get the bearer and joist level and the first few lines of decking strait ,we are puting up the polls today inbeween the rain


wear knee pads it helps heeps
don't forget to tell the wife how hard it is,,, brownie points are to come by:2tsup:


Thanks for the help... look out for a thread with pics, coming after Easter, when I begin the deck...


Tell the wife how hard it is? Geeze, that could be taken a few ways, but I guess you were talking about the deck right?

Last time she offered to help in a project I asked her to pick up an 80 kilo limestone block I was using to build a retaining wall.... It's pretty much the only time she has offered....:D :D

[SPIRIT]

spelunx l guess so you could take it that way good luck :D
ok here is a up date on the deck

[SPIRIT]

its starting to look nice now all painted just need to fit" laserlite sheets" :? anybody know whitch one wont fade (apolo??)getting the one with bit of tinting ,,then fit the sliding door ,rang the the door mob that l got the other door for the housse thinking to match them up needed one that would pass re pool regs ,no can do :( bloody hell l hate running around

then fit clear blinds to the out side zipper type
just a tip then building something like this design it to take the blinds off the shelf 2400 1800 so you dont need extentions

[Spelunx]

Wow, it's starting to look great...

Is that rain on the deck? or did you wash it down?

I can't wait to get started on my deck, roll on Easter I say!!!

[SPIRIT]

it rained the day after l painted it :D

[ComboSquare]

Hiya,

I'm still learning about carpentry and I'm just wondering...in the first picture of the deck with the 4 bearers shown parallel to the house, how come they don't extend to sit directly on the timber stumps at the ends? Is that so that that end piece/bearer matches up with the baseboard for the old deck? Are those 4 bearers simply nailed into that angled end bearer?

And finally, I assume that the joists will run to sit on the existing bearers for the house/old deck instead of using a ledger board?

Thanks,

Combo.

[manoftalent]

Spelunx, it took me a week to build one by myself @35 square meters ...and I nailed mine by hand :- ....next one I do I am screwing as mentioned by a previous poster ...with hex heads etc,,....oh by the way , it ran at a cost of $3,500 for materials ....and finished in merbu.....
In melbourne there seems to be short supply of "good" lengths of jarra ....which is another good timber to use, and when you order it (whatever you pick).....specify that NO length be shorter than say 2.4mtrs ....unless your doing steps as well (shorts can be used for this).....otherwise you will get lumbered with lengths too short for your job.......and looking at Spirits pics you will see small gaps between the lengths of merbu ..about a nail thinkness .....there is a reason for this .....merbu and jarra for that matter swells and shrinks with climate change, so be sure to leave a small gap or it will lift up ...

[ComboSquare]

Hmm upon thinking about it a bit more, is it because if the deck was built the way I described, that some of the joists would be hanging with no bearer underneath them at that end with the requirement for joists at 450 centres?

Why can't the parallel bearers simply run to the end stumps and sit fully instead of partially on them, and that end piece be a joist?

[Spelunx]

Spelunx, it took me a week to build one by myself @35 square meters ...and I nailed mine by hand :- ....next one I do I am screwing as mentioned by a previous poster ...with hex heads etc,,....oh by the way , it ran at a cost of $3,500 for materials ....and finished in merbu.....

A week huh? Did that include ballustrading, painting, oiling etc? I am nailing mine by hand too, planning to buy myself a set of knee pads and a nail pouch this weekend... :D

My deck and roof is running close to $9000, but it is off a second story, I am using 10 timber bush poles, 8 of which are 5.6 metres high, and costing $800 all up, which is about half the cost of pine poles. That also includes ballastrading, handrails and $200 for oil and a deck-mate applicator.

I have found some Jarrah decking of exceptional quality at a local timber mill, just across the road from where I live. They primarily do timber flooring, but this stuff arrived with some pin-holes in it. So it is flooring grade timber, just with worm-holes through some of it, instead of third or fourth grade timber, that is not good enough for flooring. I am pretty happy because he sold it to me for $4 a metre, which is only 20c more than the best price I found for Merbau/Batu/Kerpau, etc. It is going to look great because we have polished Jarrah floorboards upstairs as well.



In melbourne there seems to be short supply of "good" lengths of jarra ....which is another good timber to use, and when you order it (whatever you pick).....specify that NO length be shorter than say 2.4mtrs ....unless your doing steps as well (shorts can be used for this).....otherwise you will get lumbered with lengths too short for your job.......and looking at Spirits pics you will see small gaps between the lengths of merbu ..about a nail thinkness .....there is a reason for this .....merbu and jarra for that matter swells and shrinks with climate change, so be sure to leave a small gap or it will lift up ...


There is no such problem around here.... Jarrah is everywhere if you know where to look, and in good lengths too, thanks for the tip though.

Definately planning on leaving gaps between boards....

Cheers for the help!

Jayson

[Spelunx]

Just as a matter of interest, how many nails did you buy for the deck?

I was just going to purchase the biggest bucket of nails from Bunnies, and take it from there...

Hate to run out half-way through the job though, especially because we live 30k's from town!!! :o

[Jimbeam]

I would go to an auction. I did and I got 550LM of mixed hardwood for under a grand. And I love the mixed look. Its very different and looks like the deck has an identity problem with the darker timbers mixed in every now and then with the lighter ones. But thats me, it was a risk and it paid dividends. All looks the same now as its weathered but Im getting out there this weekend and giving it a good clean and seal. Can wait to return it to its former glory.

[manoftalent]

Just as a matter of interest, how many nails did you buy for the deck?

I was just going to purchase the biggest bucket of nails from Bunnies, and take it from there...

Hate to run out half-way through the job though, especially because we live 30k's from town!!! :o


I used about 7.5kg of nails ....bunnies had a 5kg one that I thought might be enough....it wasn't .....so I bought another one and used half of that ...oh and you'll need those kneepads ....lol.......as your nailing by hand, follow through with the punch as well, but be gentle or you will get splits .......especially at the joins, its not so bad when the timber is moist, but due to the heat we have had lately, most of the natural moisture evaporated ....leaving the timber slightly brittle ...some of it I pre-drilled with 3/16th drill bit to ease it in better near joins ....if you find this happening to much ....buy a pack of 65mm or 75mm decking nails and move further back from the join, the extra length of nail will give you the reach to get into the barer below without being to close to the edge.

good luck :2tsup:

[Spelunx]

I used about 7.5kg of nails ....bunnies had a 5kg one that I thought might be enough....it wasn't .....so I bought another one and used half of that ...oh and you'll need those kneepads ....lol.......as your nailing by hand, follow through with the punch as well, but be gentle or you will get splits .......especially at the joins, its not so bad when the timber is moist, but due to the heat we have had lately, most of the natural moisture evaporated ....leaving the timber slightly brittle ...some of it I pre-drilled with 3/16th drill bit to ease it in better near joins ....if you find this happening to much ....buy a pack of 65mm or 75mm decking nails and move further back from the join, the extra length of nail will give you the reach to get into the barer below without being to close to the edge.

good luck :2tsup:



Cheers... will get the Xtra large takeaway bucket, with extra chicken....



MMmmmmm chicken...:rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Cheers

Jayson.

[UteMad]

Just for trivial bordam allow 65 nails per m2 for 90mm wide decking and approx 80 -85 for 67mm

As to how many are in a 5kg tub it has been counted but i have lost the figure and buy 25kg at a time so its no longer of interest cause 25kg goes a long way and is half or less than the kg rate on a 5kg anyway

All joints should be drilled with a pilot and our policy is all nails are predrilled regardless as it minimises the chances of a board later splitting around a nail when it shrinks

Cheers Utemad

www.dialadeck.com.au (http://www.dialadeck.com.au)

[UteMad]

I would go to an auction. I did and I got 550LM of mixed hardwood for under a grand. And I love the mixed look. Its very different and looks like the deck has an identity problem with the darker timbers mixed in every now and then with the lighter ones. But thats me, it was a risk and it paid dividends. All looks the same now as its weathered but Im getting out there this weekend and giving it a good clean and seal. Can wait to return it to its former glory.

Thats a great deal you got there for the decking i gather its 90mm or is it 67mm width....Be careful with mixed hardwoods as it can quite often be the left overs and the durabilities will all be different so you can't use it in bush fire zones either..... You must have had fun picking it up cause my ute wasn't laughing when i put 350lm of 90mm merbau on its back on saturday

Once again great buy where was the auction????

cheers utemad

www.dialadeck.com.au (http://www.dialadeck.com.au)

[SPIRIT]

hi all well have nearly finished the job only the clear curtains to do witch are on order ,man its cold at night when you get out of a nice wrm spa :)
just fitted a slidding door near the spa into the houst needs a bit of paint then thats done aswell :D

used about 3000 nails
no ledger ran of the house bearers

[SPIRIT]

Hmm upon thinking about it a bit more, is it because if the deck was built the way I described, that some of the joists would be hanging with no bearer underneath them at that end with the requirement for joists at 450 centres?

Why can't the parallel bearers simply run to the end stumps and sit fully instead of partially on them, and that end piece be a joist? sorry didn't answer your question l needed a bearer to sit the other joist to sit on l then just cut joist to fill in the gaps

[Jimbeam]

Thats a great deal you got there for the decking i gather its 90mm or is it 67mm width....Be careful with mixed hardwoods as it can quite often be the left overs and the durabilities will all be different so you can't use it in bush fire zones either..... You must have had fun picking it up cause my ute wasn't laughing when i put 350lm of 90mm merbau on its back on saturday

Once again great buy where was the auction????

cheers utemad

www.dialadeck.com.au (http://www.dialadeck.com.au)

Ute,

I got the timber at Laws Auctions in Wetherill Park in Sydney. They have building supply auctions on tuesdays or wednesdays and you can view the catalogue online prior to the auction. I did not use the whole 550 LM initially but I have gotten into building a bench seat the length of the deck last weekend and I doubt I'll have much of it left over once I am done. Sure, some lengths were split and cracked, but I just cut around them to minimize waste. Im in the suburbs so bush fire code is not really an issue but you raise a good point that maybe some poople need to take into consideration when building. Oh, and its 90mm. I just hired a guy to pick it up and deliver it. They are at the austions and you can arrange delivery on the spot(about 70 bucks from memory).

www.lawsauctions.com.au (http://www.lawsauctions.com.au) Checkem out. Great for tradies.

[UteMad]

Ute,

I got the timber at Laws Auctions in Wetherill Park in Sydney. They have building supply auctions on tuesdays or wednesdays and you can view the catalogue online prior to the auction. I did not use the whole 550 LM initially but I have gotten into building a bench seat the length of the deck last weekend and I doubt I'll have much of it left over once I am done. Sure, some lengths were split and cracked, but I just cut around them to minimize waste. Im in the suburbs so bush fire code is not really an issue but you raise a good point that maybe some poople need to take into consideration when building. Oh, and its 90mm. I just hired a guy to pick it up and deliver it. They are at the austions and you can arrange delivery on the spot(about 70 bucks from memory).

www.lawsauctions.com.au (http://www.lawsauctions.com.au) Checkem out. Great for tradies.


Thanks for that will have a look .......

cheers Utemad

[Spelunx]

Wow, the deck turned out awesome!

Congratulations on a job well done.

I hope mine looks as good.