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spotty
3rd February 2007, 12:52 PM
I wish to make a traditional blend of Stockholm Tar, Gum Turp and Bees Wax for marine / outside use. Can anyone help with advising who sells these in Sydney and any blends - I've heard of 65% STar, 25%GTurp and 10%BWax by vol and applied hot. I think it's a very old recipe used on square riggers.

journeyman Mick
3rd February 2007, 01:21 PM
You should be able to get Stockholm tar from an agricultural supplier or an equestrian supplier. By Gum Turp I presume you mean old fashioned, non-mineral type turps. Should be able to get that at any art supply house. The beeswax from any good hardware or also the art supply place. I daresay there's probably been a few advances made in coating technologies since that recipe was cooked up.

Mick

outback
3rd February 2007, 03:32 PM
Mick is right about the Stockholm tar, that is if you can still get it. I haven't seen or heard of it for years. Smells like a bastard. The rest should be pretty easy I'd reckon.

BernieP
3rd February 2007, 03:40 PM
G'day spotty

AS mentioned above, also called Pine Tar see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_tar

Is used for horses cracked hoofs and still available at vets supplies (I think) careful very dangerous to skin and eyes and flammable as well.

Cheers
Bernie

spotty
4th February 2007, 03:43 PM
I've learnt from the Wooden Boat Forum that Stockholm Tar or Pine Tar (US) has been misused as a "generic". Pine Tar used for horse hoof treatment I understand is often a coal tar derivative since the original Stockholm Tar - sourced from Pinus Sylvestris was in short supply. The US guys produced an alternative from Southern Pine species. The wood derived product I understand is not bad smelling and is not harmful to the skin - at least in the mixture I previously described. I was recently on a replica square rigger "The Dyfken" which uses Stockhom Tar and Bees Wax on the manila/hemp ropes and STar/GTurp/BWax on the outside wood surfaces - deck/rails/blocks etc. It had a pleasant smell and didn't burn the skin. I know what you mean about skin burns with say creosote which is very alkaline but STar is mildly acid and when mixed with the other 2 products probably improves its handling qualities. I'm looking for more of a commercial supplier than art houses, so if anyone knows of other suppliers I would be greatful.

outback
4th February 2007, 04:41 PM
My experience with Stockholm tar was actaull as a wound dressing for aminals. Black, sticky, and stinks like a bastard.