What's The Difference Between A Pool Table & Snooker Table & Billiard Table

[echnidna]

I want to build one.
Whats the differences?
Are American table dimensions the same as Aussie or UK table dimensions

[Gumby]

Same table for each game, just different balls.

The little tables are 6x3 and the pub size is generally 7x3.5 or 8x4

we had a 9 x 4.5 at Mum & Dad's - it's good size if you have the room.

full championship size is size is 12x6

Billiards is with 3 balls. Two red, one white

Snooker is with the reds (15) and the coloured balls (green yellow, brown, blue, pink,black)

and the numbered balls are for 8-ball or Kelly Pool

[echnidna]

Thanks Gumby ,I thought so, but better to check than be sorry.

[Grunt]

Glad Gumby knows his balls.

[Tankstand]

and the numbered balls are for 8-ball or Kelly Pool


Also for the extremely popular 9 ball

[Eddie Jones]

Glad Gumby knows his balls.

Oh you think so???

Billiards with two reds and a white??

I don't think so!

[Gumby]

Oh you think so???

Billiards with two reds and a white??

I don't think so!

ooops, :-

One red, one white, one white with black dot. (It's been a while since I played that one)

[echnidna]

Sounds like Grunt's dancing condoms got it right
:doghouse:

[Gumby]

I thought they were bananas :- (really)

[echnidna]

bananas don't come in that colour range

[rrich]

There is one other difference that I am aware of.

A pool table has pockets with straight sides where they join the cushion or rail.

A snooker table has pockets with curved sides where they join the cushion or rail.

Putting a ball in the pocket on a snooker table requires better accuracy and a soft touch.

[Grunt]

bananas don't come in that colour range

They do when they've got condoms on.

[joe greiner]

Also, a billiard table has no pockets. Scored by number of caroms only. (Pool is also known as pocket billiards.) Also, also, IIRC a snooker table is somewhat larger than the others. And ditto rrich, those round corners are sumbishes.

Joe

[WoodGirl]

Oh, so when the guys say they're going to play pool, maybe they're not really going to play po....?? :doh: :U

[Reppy]

All I know is that seeing that I don't play it much (though do enjoy it) I'm crap for the first 7 or 8 games of pool after a long spell.

And then I play like a man possessed :U

[klinger]

practise on a snooker table, which is free in most clubs, and ya pool game becomes alot easier!

[Daddles]

All I know is that seeing that I don't play it much (though do enjoy it) I'm crap for the first 7 or 8 games of pool after a long spell.

And then I play like a man possessed :U

I'm possessed with an inability to judge angles, moderate power and to strike the ball cleanly. Other than that ... I'm really rather bad at the game :( Guess my youth wasn't mis-spent enough.

Richard

[Felder]

Pool is also known as pocket billiards.

Really? I know a different definition of pocket billiards. I'm really quite good at it, too. :D

[Lignum]

Really? I know a different definition of pocket billiards. I'm really quite good at it, too. :D

Ive never met anyone from NSW who wasnt a master at it:wink:

[Shedhand]

The wonderful art of snooker and billiards has been bastardised by the seppos.. :D

There ARE pockets on a billiards table. Snooker is a game played on a Billiard table. In billiards (the competition balls are now coloured; a red; a yellow and a white. the red being the spotted ball) points are scored for cannons and pots.

A billiards table is 12 feet by 6 feet with 6 netted pockets, 2 at each corner and 1 each side equidistant from the corners and adjacent to each other..

Kelly Pool, 8-Ball, 9-Ball, Pool are pub games played by people unable to play the pure form of the table game. :cool: They require little skill and a lot of bashing around with stunted cues carved with all sorts of ridiculous cowboy patterns. :no:

Signed
an 'A' Grade Snooker player who won the only 8-Ball Calcutta he ever played in and laughed at how easy it was as he departed with a tad over 2 grand in his pocket. :D:D:D:D:D

[Felder]

Ive never met anyone from NSW who wasnt a master at it:wink:

We even nicknamed one of our cricketers "Tugger". :wank: :oo:

[MurrayD99]

The wonderful art of snooker and billiards has been bastardised by the seppos.. :D

There ARE pockets on a billiards table. Snooker is a game played on a Billiard table. In billiards (the competition balls are now coloured; a red; a yellow and a white. the red being the spotted ball)..................an 'A' Grade Snooker player who won the only 8-Ball Calcutta he ever played in and laughed at how easy it was as he departed with a tad over 2 grand in his pocket. :D:D:D:D:D

Thanks for the clarification re pockets - thought I was going mad for a minute there.

As to the rest..... Spot is now red? Yer joking! There's a lot of fellas turning in their graves. TV has a lot to answer for.

[joe greiner]

Back to Bob's original question, there are plenty of sizes and forms to choose from (including no pockets, if you like, but 3-cushion caroms can be frustrating).

For a quite complete dissertation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billiards.

For exact shapes of pocket entrances, search Google for plans. The cushions should be available from a specialty supplier. Ditto the cloth.

[Bear in mind that for maximum utility, the cushions should be at least one cue-stick length from walls or other obstacles. This could dictate a non-standard size for the table or the cue sticks, or both.]

Joe

[Bleedin Thumb]

On yah Sheddy, can't believe some of these answers people have been posting!
Also the angled entrances is also an American "innovation" as far as I know.
They make it easier to get a pot but destroy your chances of doing a finesse cushion shot near the mouth. IE its a dumbed down sort of idea.

EDIT Sheddy I can't agree with what you say about pool... it would mean that I have wasted a large part of my youth.
Also I hate large white balls, if you know what I mean.

[Lignum]

Bob, why dont you make a round or eliptical one:D Ive played on a round one and its very challenging:wink:

[Shedhand]

EDIT Sheddy I can't agree with what you say about pool... it would mean that I have wasted a large part of my youth.
Yep. I reckon you did cobber... :D

[abitfishy]

Same table for each game, just different balls.

Billiards is with 3 balls. Two red, one white
Snooker is with the reds (15) and the coloured balls (green yellow, brown, blue, pink,black)
and the numbered balls are for 8-ball or Kelly Pool

Whats the game then where one person has to sink all their half coloured balls, the other the full coloured balls, then the black ball to win? Or am I confused? Are there white balls included on the table as well??

[Cliff Rogers]

Whats the game then where one person has to sink all their half coloured balls, the other the full coloured balls, then the black ball to win? Or am I confused? Are there white balls included on the table as well??
Half colours, full colours, black ones, white ones...... now what is left. :rolleyes: :p

[Shedhand]

Whats the game then where one person has to sink all their half coloured balls, the other the full coloured balls, then the black ball to win? Or am I confused? Are there white balls included on the table as well??8 ball used to have half banded colour balls numbered 1 to 7, the black ball, bumber 8, then the full coloured balls numbered 9 to 15. Whatever, you potted first you stayed on - banded or solid colour. The cue ball was and still is white. In some states the cue ball was slightly smaller (and more difficult to control) than the coloured balls and in some states the white ball was bigger (which made trick shots easier). Nowadays they use 7 red, 7 yellow, the black and the white cue ball. I believe this change was made at competition level to cater for Television broadcasting of the game. The same happened for Billiards, the white cue ball with the dot has been replaced by a yellow ball.
Cheers

[abitfishy]

Cliff, Oh shush you! I'm as good at games as I am at woodworking. :D

But I'm serious, I'm sure I've played a game where one has to sink their half colours, the other the fulls - but not sure where the black and white come into it. Anything else is too confusing. And I'm confused enough already. :B

Thanks for that shedhand. Typical, I start learning something and some smart alec has to change it.

[Bleedin Thumb]

Sheddy, the only reason you won that pool comp is that I wasn't there.

My favourate shot is the 8 ball break!:D

Snooker is a game for tight wades that drink at clubs and afraid to enter a public bar.

Where I come from its "ya money on the table or blood on the floor" :cool:

[Lignum]

Bob have a look at this:) Its a yank company with heaps of tables and a construction page that shows pics of a table in construction and has one great cut away view of the base/cushion/legs/rails etc

http://www.ahpooltables.com/pool-table-construction.htm

Have a go at building the "Versailles" :2tsup:

[rod1949]

Bob,

Are you going to give it a slate top? I would like to build one (after I've finished building me house) and research that I have done is sourcing the slate.

[joe greiner]

In some states the cue ball was slightly smaller (and more difficult to control) than the coloured balls and in some states the white ball was bigger (which made trick shots easier).

The odd-size cue ball is typically used in coin-operated tables, so that it can be returned to play after a scratch. Normal-size target balls are retained; similar to grading aggregates with sieves.

Joe

[echnidna]

Hi Lig,
I like the general lines of some of the mission tables
I wouldn't bother building the Versailles (unless it was a commission job)
I like your earlier suggestion of a round or oval table - very intriguing.
Rectangular is a bit ho-hum, a kidney shape might even be interesting

Rod,
I won't bother with slate because of the environment it'll live in.
I'll probably use 32mm mdf or hmr chipboard with either a tempered masonite or compressed fibre cement overlay.

[Lignum]

I realy like this. The way the top floats looks great and it has the Art Deco style base. The end aluminimun looking bit on the base i dont like but the rest i do:)

[Bleedin Thumb]

I realy like this. The way the top floats looks great and it has the Art Deco style base. The end aluminimun looking bit on the base i dont like but the rest i do:)

Could be a bugger to level up.

[rrich]

Whats the game then where one person has to sink all their half coloured balls, the other the full coloured balls, then the black ball to win? Or am I confused? Are there white balls included on the table as well??

The game is called Eight Ball. As stated the rules are simple. Which ever type of ball thast you sink first is your set of balls to sink. If you knock in the black or eight ball before all of your type of balls have been sunk, you lose the game.

The game was created because of the tables found in many American pubs. Usually, the players insert coins to release the balls from the table and start a game. Any ball put into a pocket is trapped by the table. The white or cue ball is slightly smaller than the coloured balls and will fall out of the table if a player scratches or pockets the cue ball.

BTW - Here the low numbered balls (1-7) are solid in colour while the high numbered balls (9-15) have a colour stripe. (Affectionally known as stripes and solids.)

[joe greiner]

The game was created because of the tables found in many American pubs.

I most humbly doubt this. I'm pretty sure Eight-Ball was around long before the advent of coin-operated tables. Just one of many, many variations developed over the centuries. And the coin-op tables swallow non-cue balls no matter the game: nine-ball, straight, etc.

Joe

[Honorary Bloke]

I realy like this. The way the top floats looks great and it has the Art Deco style base. The end aluminimun looking bit on the base i dont like but the rest i do:)

A bewty awright. I wonder how many Dominoes it would take to make it? :? :D

[DanP]

BTW - Here the low numbered balls (1-7) are solid in colour while the high numbered balls (9-15) have a colour stripe. (Affectionally known as stripes and solids.)<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Same here. They're a bit backwards in Tasmania.

[Shedhand]

Same here. They're a bit backwards in Tasmania.Sorry, I stand corrected. Dunno what I was thinkin. 1 - 7 are solid colour and 9 -15 are striped. :B
We're not backward here. Its nice and peaceful, just how we like it. SO stay away you rowdy buggers.. :wink:

[Grunt]

Back in Perth, which was the last time I played pool, we called the solid coloured balls (1-7) smalls and (9-15) bigs

Makes sense really.

Pool was an important part of me mis-spending my youth.

[Ashore]

So now to get you all
What are the proper rules of 8 ball regarding a miss,, in off, hitting the wrong ball, hitting the 8 first , in off the 8 after hitting your ball first, when does the opponent get two shots , does any foul on the 8 cost the game , and finally where do their rules come from
Cause I have played around Australia and have seen so many diffrent rules it actually becomes difficult to win even when you have the skill espically in TAS.

I started playing snooker as an 18 year old lad in Belmont Newcastle and the two clubs I was A member of and playing snooker with granted c Grade at the time, The Sportsmans & The 16' Sailing club....... One Had Eddie Charlton Playing A Grade & his brother Jimmy Charlton playing A Grade at the other ( at the time one was The World Professionsl Champion And the other was the World Amature Champion) and to see those play against each other in local club comps was a memory I shall always have.

[Gumby]

What are the proper rules of 8 ball regarding a miss,, in off, hitting the wrong ball, hitting the 8 first , in off the 8 after hitting your ball first, when does the opponent get two shots , does any foul on the 8 cost the game , and finally where do their rules come from

In our house, over the fence is 6 and out.:cool:

[Cliff Rogers]

A fence? Sheer bloody luxury.... when I was a boy, the house yard was 6000 acres so over the fence mean something. :D

[rrich]

Back in Perth, which was the last time I played pool, we called the solid coloured balls (1-7) smalls and (9-15) bigs.

Makes sense really.


Absolutely!



Pool was an important part of me mis-spending my youth.


Pool was the SECOND most important part of me mis-spending my youth. :wink: :p :D :D :D :D

[Bleedin Thumb]

So now to get you all
What are the proper rules of 8 ball regarding a miss,, in off, hitting the wrong ball, hitting the 8 first , in off the 8 after hitting your ball first, when does the opponent get two shots , does any foul on the 8 cost the game , and finally where do their rules come from
Cause I have played around Australia and have seen so many diffrent rules it actually becomes difficult to win even when you have the skill espically in TAS.



I have gotten a few black eyes over this issue over the years.
The best rules for simplicity are Nth Qld rules.

2 shots every foul and 2 on the black.

One line sums it up.

Oh also if you haven't sunk a ball before the black is sunk...., Up on the table ......pants, pants, pants. If you refused you were kicked out.:D